Logos performance on Amazon Fire HD 10 Plus

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J. R. Mount | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2022 7:52 PM

Does anyone have experience running logos 9 on the new Fire HD 10 Plus?  It is the one tablet in my price range right now and I would really like to know other users thoughts on it.

Thanks!

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Duncan Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 2 2022 10:50 PM

I’m assuming it’s the Android mobile app you’re thinking of running on the Fire HD, as the full desktop app doesn‘t run on mobile devices.

I recently got a Fire HD10 plus, but haven’t run Logos in it, so couldn’t specifically answer your question right now, as I use my iPad for that. If it’s any help, I could try and install the Logos mobile app on my HD10 plus over the weekend, and let you know how it runs for me. I know the Fire HD10 plus does seem to run other apps faster than the older 2019 model of the basic HD10, and the plus does have more ram. I also find the wireless charging quite handy.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 1:23 AM

I have the Fire HD 8 Plus, which has a bit lower specs than the 10 Plus... It should still be comparable though.

The device has become my main reading device for Logos books. Performance is good; comparable to a Galaxy phone. At least for Logos; it'd probably be different for high end gaming with a lot of graphics requirements for example. The OS is quite up to date so that you should get at least three or four years of supported app updates.

The biggest advantage in my opinion is the fact that resources (and media downloads) can be saved to the memory card on the Kindle Fire app.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 1:42 AM

Hi Jan

As I know nothing about the Android world I wonder if you could comment on the performance of the Web App on these devices for the benefit of folk thinking of using them.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 2:08 AM

Mike Binks:

Hi Jan

As I know nothing about the Android world I wonder if you could comment on the performance of the Web App on these devices for the benefit of folk thinking of using them.

I just tried it for the first time... Performance wise there are no noticable differences between using the web app on a tablet and on a computer.

However, it's not suitable for people with big fingers like me. Maybe it's a bit better on the 10 inch device.

I also noticed that half the navigation items are missing and only appear when holding the tablet horizontally. So the screen is overall clearly a bit too small.

If I wanted to have and use a mobile version of the full Logos experience, I must confess I'd invest in an MS Surface device. The web app is sufficient for doing some quick look ups, but for serious work it's simply not good enough yet.

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 5:49 AM

Hi J.R.:

Welcome to the user forums.

FYI: Amazon tends to heavily discount their tablets at least twice per year, generally around Christmas and early summer. (Maybe more times.) So, if you can wait, you might get one for 40-45% off. I bought my nonplus HD 10 in June 2021 for 80 USD (with Father's Day gift cards!). You might get the Plus for 95-100 USD.

With regard to your question, I find the Logos app performance good on mine; a vast improvement over my previous Fire 8HD (2016-17). Since the Plus has more RAM, yours should be even better. Of course, this is largely subjective and depends on the things you do on Logos Mobile.

Pro:  If you have a Kindle library, it's important to know that the Kindle app edition on the Fire tablet has built-in text-to-speech. (Really helpful, as I have a vision impairment and sometimes prefer hearing the book.) It's also smart enough to detect the language in the book's metadata (Faithlife: call your office) and choose the appropriate Ivona voice (free download).

Cons:

The Android OS equivalent on Fire tablets are sometimes 2-3 versions behind the latest. Since Faithlife likes to keep up with the Joneses on mobile OSs, you could wake up one morning and find a funeral dirge post for Android 9 here on the forums. I take that gamble for the price.

Also, you are limited to apps in the Amazon App Store, i.e., Google Play isn't available. I just got accustomed to using their browser, although Chrome is my preference. You can side-load Google Play, but it's a hassle I don't want to deal with.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 7:03 AM

J. R. Mount:
I would really like to know other users thoughts on it.

I am not an Android user, but I thought Robert's post was good. I did want to point out one thing he said and clarify: The Fire tablets don't run the current version of Android, but a modified version. The result of this is that the Kindle Fire's will be obsolete (no support from Faithlife) sooner than other Android devices. 

When you consider the price, you should take that into consideration. I agree with him about getting it on sale. I'd also research release history to see when a new one might be in the pipeline. A newer device with obviously give you more life than a brand new OLD device. 

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 8:17 AM

Robert M. Warren:

The Android OS equivalent on Fire tablets are sometimes 2-3 versions behind the latest. Since Faithlife likes to keep up with the Joneses on mobile OSs, you could wake up one morning and find a funeral dirge post for Android 9 here on the forums. I take that gamble for the price.

Also, you are limited to apps in the Amazon App Store, i.e., Google Play isn't available.

I concur with Robert. I used an employer provided iPad in the past, I am on my 2nd HD10 because of the lag in OS update options. But in my 2nd Fire I am still less money vested than I would be with an Apple or Galaxy device.

I think Jan Krohn is accurate with the "reading" device. I use my Fire for reading and the Proclaim Remote, but my Microsoft Surface is my "go to" for study.

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J. R. Mount | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 2:48 PM

Thank you all very much!  I think it will be a good gamble to get one in the summer when the sales are starting!  I really appreciate all the input, especially when to look for the sales!

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 3 2022 8:14 PM

I have been using Kindle Fire tablets for years. I have installed the Google playstore on at least 5 different models for myself and for friends. I always use the instructions at Android Police.

https://www.androidpolice.com/install-play-store-amazon-fire-tablet/

The first time I installed Google Playstore, I watched lots of videos on youtube, but I always use the links and final instruction at Android Police.

I am using the Google Playstore version of the Logos app. It works as expected. I don't use a tablet much for Logos, expect as a very basic e-reader. The mobile app just doesn't meet my needs for Logos, which is mostly to write academic papers. I kept thinking that I would want to use Logos for devotional use when I was more trained in using it. Nope, I just appreciate another app more for devotional use. I have purchased some books twice if I use them constantly for both devotional and academics.

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I am a student with few worldly possessions. Logos is my single most expensive possession. I am a big of fan of what Logos can do. On my desktop. I am not bashing Logos as a whole! I love my Kindle Fire. I use it every day with other apps. I just am underwhelmed with the mobile app. I am thankful to have the mobile app!!! I need to have the option to turn off my desktop and still have some access to my library on my mobile devices!

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J. R. Mount | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 4 2022 8:29 PM

After contemplating what everyone said, I decided to go the cheaper route and order the Fire 8 Plus.  Should get it tomorrow so I am excited to see how it does with Logos.  Thanks again everyone!

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 4 2022 10:12 PM

J. R. Mount:

After contemplating what everyone said, I decided to go the cheaper route and order the Fire 8 Plus.  Should get it tomorrow so I am excited to see how it does with Logos.  Thanks again everyone!

I'll be curious to hear your review.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 5 2022 12:39 AM

J. R. Mount:

After contemplating what everyone said, I decided to go the cheaper route and order the Fire 8 Plus.  Should get it tomorrow so I am excited to see how it does with Logos.  Thanks again everyone!

Keep records - the important thing about kit like this is 'total cost of ownership'. It is a personal thing but needs records to allow 'real' comparisons to be made. It was 'total cost of ownership' records that moved me on to Apple computers. The headline price can really mislead you.

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J. R. Mount | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 3:13 PM

The Fire HD 8 came later than expected so I haven't dived too deep into it, but here are my first observations. 

  • You can download the Logos app in the Amazon App store.  No problems there at all.
  • The app is very clean and the Kindle aspect of reading is a really nice change from using my laptop.
  • I don't use many functions, but so far most are in there that I see.  I have the Logos 9 bronze package.
  • I can't figure out if it is even possible to link the books I am reading such as A with A, B with B, etc.  
  • I haven't encountered any slow running of the app.  But keep in mind that I do mostly read and try to research some with it.  I am not an advanced user.

Overall I have been very pleased with the Amazon Fire 8 HD Plus.  The screen is very sharp and it is easy to handle.  I can see where someone that is interested in more research type items such as windows side by side, etc would need a larger screen.  I hope this helps anyone who is looking at buying this.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 4:10 PM

J. R. Mount:

The Fire HD 8 came later than expected ...

Overall I have been very pleased with the Amazon Fire 8 HD Plus.

I love the keyboard for the 10 HD Plus. I upgraded just because of the keyboard.

I just unexpectedly found out that I am losing my free government cellular wifi. In an attempt to squeeze me some more time, the person on the phone just shortened my time. I only have 3 days left. Sigh! I will be using my Fire a LOT more. The apps on a tablet let you download ebooks from the library and bring them home. Laptops apps are often more restricted to online viewing instead of downloads. I have no complaints about the Fire. It does what I need it to do.

The only thing that I would want for it, is to have a cellular version that I could purchase a plan from my cellular provider. The Fire tablets are designed to accommodate offline use, though. A lot of poor people buy Fire tablets, and poor people often rely on intermittent public wifi. Amazon makes sure that people can purchase content from Amazon and bring it home.

I'll be at the forum less, but when I do get on, it will sometime be from my Fire tablet at public wifi. The Fire tablets are not as light as the more expensive options, but for a tablet with a dedicated keyboard designed for the tablet, the price of the Fire 10 HD Plus is so much lower that the competition. It is light enough.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 4:18 PM

So sorry for your loss. In many rural areas it is miles to a hot spot.

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Joey Midgett | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 6:36 PM

Jan Krohn:

I just tried it for the first time... Performance wise there are no noticable differences between using the web app on a tablet and on a computer.

However, it's not suitable for people with big fingers like me. Maybe it's a bit better on the 10 inch device.

I also noticed that half the navigation items are missing and only appear when holding the tablet horizontally. So the screen is overall clearly a bit too small.

If I wanted to have and use a mobile version of the full Logos experience, I must confess I'd invest in an MS Surface device. The web app is sufficient for doing some quick look ups, but for serious work it's simply not good enough yet.

I use it and performance-wise I am pretty happy. I too have big fingers so I bought a stylus pen on amazon, 3 pk for about $5 and it works great.

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Joey Midgett | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 6:43 PM

J. R. Mount:

The Fire HD 8 came later than expected so I haven't dived too deep into it, but here are my first observations. 

  • You can download the Logos app in the Amazon App store.  No problems there at all.
  • The app is very clean and the Kindle aspect of reading is a really nice change from using my laptop.
  • I don't use many functions, but so far most are in there that I see.  I have the Logos 9 bronze package.
  • I can't figure out if it is even possible to link the books I am reading such as A with A, B with B, etc.  
  • I haven't encountered any slow running of the app.  But keep in mind that I do mostly read and try to research some with it.  I am not an advanced user.

Overall I have been very pleased with the Amazon Fire 8 HD Plus.  The screen is very sharp and it is easy to handle.  I can see where someone that is interested in more research type items such as windows side by side, etc would need a larger screen.  I hope this helps anyone who is looking at buying this.

Yes, you can link resources. If you click on the tabs button at the bottom all open tabs are shown and there is a link button, I think it is top right but may be bottom right, click it and you can link all together or select which tabs you want to be linked.

It has the link chain symbol. No A, B, or C just a link.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 11 2022 8:29 PM

MJ. Smith:

So sorry for your loss. In many rural areas it is miles to a hot spot.

I know I am lucky. It is only half a mile to the library, and I have unlimited (but throttled) cellular on my phone. I am at total peace about this and trust God to provide exactly what he wants me to have when he wants me to have it. It is Lent: if there is ever a good time to be offline, it is during Lent. I am busy downloading what I can onto my devices, and tweaking their settings to work best offline and at public hotspots. I've done this before. Lots of times.

The Fire tablet is a good device to have when you must go days at a time with no wifi. God made sure that I still have one. He has my back. He knows what is coming even when I don't. He sets me up, in ways that leave me laughing. There are just a bunch of little ways that I know God was getting me ready. Including a little overspending on Logos. I am going to be able to keep up with most of my studies with a few tweaks, and I trust God's plan for those that I must drop.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 12 2022 9:29 AM

Kathleen Marie:
I have unlimited (but throttled) cellular on my phone.

Have you thought of using your phone as a hotspot then connecting the Fire to that hotspot?

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