Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus by Joachim Jeremias

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2022 9:47 AM

2 questions!

1) Anyone have any good or bad thoughts about this resource? Just curious :)

2) Is it on sale? I don't see it on the Easter sale page but it is listed as 30% off. Not sure if that is the always price or it is on sale but not listed.

https://www.logos.com/product/52879/jerusalem-in-the-time-of-jesus 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2022 10:14 AM

Not showing on sale on your link.

And are you really questioning Prof Metzger's judgment? Smiling. It's interesting, since Metzger was said to have encyclopiac recall.

But the author is quite knowledgable ... near the end of a long career.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2022 11:20 AM

Haha never. Mine shows 19.99 original 28.99

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2022 11:35 AM

It's a classic, though I've never read it so I can't add my personal recommendation to Metzger's and the 5-star reviews on Amazon. I had it in dead-tree format before I got it in Logos.

Here are a couple of Amazon reviews:

L & K Dean 5.0 out of 5 stars Textbook reading - not for entertainment

Reviewed in the United States on August 27, 2021

Verified Purchase Jeremias has vast knowledge with plenty of footnoted sources. This is a textbook, not a lightweight bedtime read. His insights and queries are helpful, and he is quick to tell us if something is merely an educated guess. Although archaic in thought and paradigm, he manages to paint for the reader a detailed picture of the social, economic, religious, and gender structures in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus. He brilliantly transfers us from our Sunday school flannel-board simplicity to his academic complexities of Middle Eastern mores and ways. Most helpful for a student of New Testament. Mark Gibbs 5.0 out of 5 stars A must have book Reviewed in the United States on February 9, 2008 Verified Purchase Okay, so it's not written in the chatty style that students prefer, but this book is really the best tool out there to provide a background for New Testament studies. The author has no agenda, no liberal or conservative spin. He has scoured the Mishnah and the Talmudic writings, which would otherwise take years to do, and crystallized them into a succinct and convenient package. Modern analyzes of ancient Palestine are generally based on modern sociological theories, and inevitably they disappoint, but Jeremias' material is derived solely from relevant source texts, and I know which I prefer. Anyone serious about understanding the society into which Jesus was born ought to purchase this book.
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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2022 1:17 PM

Check your dynamic pricing; it might be cheaper in this Expansion: https://www.logos.com/product/204628/logos-9-bible-backgrounds-library-expansion-m 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2022 1:55 PM

Mattillo:

Haha never. Mine shows 19.99 original 28.99

$19.99 is the regular price on Logos; the digital list price is publisher suggested.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 12 2022 8:07 AM

DMB:

Mattillo:

Haha never. Mine shows 19.99 original 28.99

$19.99 is the regular price on Logos; the digital list price is publisher suggested.

That is what I thought. When I saw the 30% off I thought maybe a sale. I couldn't pass up on the 75% off Factbook expansion so I threw this in with it. I have no doubt it'll be worth it's $20

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True North | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 12 2022 11:12 AM

We used it Seminary along with Bo Reicke. It's dated, but still useful. I paid 28.99 US back in 2016.

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Hamilton Ramos | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 13 2022 10:12 AM

Mattillo:

in a Hebraic thought mobile ed course, it was suggested that punishment sometimes was due to failure to care for vulnerable persons, which was kind of an implied duty for the community under God's pact. (Prophets warning about it).

Too bad the resource does not deal with this particularly. Neither was I able to find the "every man under a fig and olive tree" of social justice principle.

Also no analysis from a worldview point of view. Was the Hebrew worldview much different than the Christian one? maybe in some deep aspects is not, but is not analyzed under the rubric.

If modern analysis was incorporated into some of the book info, it would be really good from my point of view.

So how much were the chosen ones taking care of the vulnerable? how much were they encouraging all from developing wisdom and discernment in the Hebraic traditional way? was such omission cause of the Kingdom given to others (ie Christians)? 

Just from looking at the toc, it does not seem to be organized to answer such, maybe some info will be useful to try to explore such, but unfortunately the book does not seem to be written with such analysis in mind.

It gives pixels of life, that point towards specialization and elitism, which may be why God was not very satisfied with what was happening at the time.

Specialization for economics and politics seem right, but spiritually all had the duty to develop wisdom and discernment to be able to carry out the intent of God in all areas, or so it seems.

Just a different angle.

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