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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2022 8:58 PM

So this is my Dilemma, I'm a Lone saint

I had made fourms in the past here a month ago and this has been my updated experience from all and thanks to those who will see this post and rememeber me srry i'm back but bare with me where im coming from because not sure, but it is serious when it comes to ones faith, especially if they faith relative struggles on top of mental struggles and health relative issues to cognitive and chronic fatigue but im not here to gripe or complain forgive me. But again thanks to those who have  assist me in a little help in helping at least guide me rightly on what to do not exactly be taught which is understandable i do not want to be toss to and fro from every wind of doctrine and this is why i cannot.

These are the helpful samples people try to help me with below than i got discourage but kept trying till i found books that helped me.

Where i'm simple and uneducated i was recommended books like
https://www.logos.com/product/136743/plain-theology-for-plain-people
I
 do not know why but i only read half i guess i do not understand the foundations that well in it


Joined connect groups on TSC with spirtual decerment the best i can and was recommended this book
https://www.logos.com/product/20023/growing-in-christ-a-13-week-course-for-new-and-growing-christians
Wasn't sure how to apply this greatly to myself.

and one here https://www.logos.com/product/2425/30-days-to-understanding-what-christians-believe

this one here that gave me a lot of stuff and was recommended but i found no use can i tell u more why but i wont lay it all out here https://www.logos.com/product/208025/logos-7-anglican-starter-legacy-library 

So books above were helpers trying to assist me in learning how to go about my christian walk this i have no one in my christian life really that is a mentor or a older in the faith that could actually sit down and get it through my head better. so i was wondering below there are all the things i learned about myself that has somewhat helped.

Recently picked up  https://www.logos.com/product/1186/believers-bible-commentary and read as far as matthew 6 where he talks about the lords prayer and i learned more about it it says(

(L. Jesus Teaches the Model Prayer (6:9–15)

6:9 In verses 9–13 we have what is generally called “The Lord’s Prayer.” In using this title, however, we should remember that Jesus never prayed it Himself. It was given to His disciples as a model after which they could pattern their prayers. It was not given as the exact words they were to use (v. 7 seems to rule this out), because many words repeated by rote memory can become empty phrases.
Our Father in heaven. Prayer should be addressed to God the Father in acknowledgment of His sovereignty over the universe.
Hallowed be Your name. We should begin our prayers with worship, ascribing praise and honor to Him who is so worthy of it.
6:10 Your kingdom come. After worship, we should pray for the advancement of God’s cause, putting His interests first. Specifically, we should pray for the day when our Savior-God, the Lord Jesus Christ, will set up His kingdom on earth and reign in righteousness.
Your will be done. In this petition we acknowledge that God knows what is best and that we surrender our will to His. It also expresses a longing to see His will acknowledged throughout the world.
On earth as it is in heaven. This phrase modifies all three preceding petitions. The worship of God, the sovereign rule by God, and the performance of His will are all a reality of heaven. The prayer is that these conditions might exist on earth as they do in heaven.
6:11 Give us this day our daily bread. After putting God’s interests first, we are permitted to present our own needs. This petition acknowledges our dependence on God for daily food, both spiritual and physical.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. This does not refer to judicial forgiveness from the penalty of sin (that forgiveness is obtained by faith in the Son of God). Rather this refers to the parental forgiveness that is necessary if fellowship with our Father is to be maintained. If believers are unwilling to forgive those who wrong them, how can they expect to be in fellowship with their Father who has freely forgiven them for their wrongdoings?
6:13 And do not lead us into temptation. This request may appear to contradict James 1:13, which states that God would never tempt anyone. However, God does allow His people to be tested and tried. This petition expresses a healthy distrust of one’s own ability to resist temptations or to stand up under trial. It acknowledges complete dependence on the Lord for preservation.
But deliver us from the evil one. This is the prayer of all who desperately desire to be kept from sin by the power of God. It is the heart’s cry for daily salvation from the power of sin and Satan in one’s life.)

Then i found about  M’Cheyne Reading Plan and it lead me to reading four chapters a day to telling me if i want to read more on these chapters so i clicked on the matthew one because of wanted to learn more about prayer

https://www.amazon.com/Application-Commentary-Gospel-Matthew-Revised-ebook/dp/B009MQTE50/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1469496506&sr=1-6&keywords=matthew+commentary&linkCode=sl1&tag=bpem-20&linkId=626639345707acf905fe324557b54a5e

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hat lead me to reading about prayer and i learned about 
Five Conditions of Prevailing Prayer By George Muller
https://www.georgemuller.org/devotional/five-conditions-of-prevailing-prayer1


Because i wanted to learn more about prayer


This has been my research and has helped better as if guided 
I started the (M’Cheyne Reading Plan) and tips from the website that i took to heart recently like the links below i have listed

https://www.believers.org/listbel.htm
These are the ones i read so far
https://www.believers.org/believe/bel164.htm
https://www.believers.org/believe/bel133.htm
https://www.believers.org/believe/bel176.htm
https://www.believers.org/believe/bel175.htm


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So far that's where im left at at the moment with prayer)

But the books below in order what i yet not finished yet but 

The Discipline of Grace: God's Role and Our Role in the Pursuit of Holiness by Jerry Bridges trying to understand grace more and this book (i found this myself and it kinda went over my head) 

I found a book on the gospel by paul washer is was a small (Still a little complex yet i understood where i stand where i talks about conversion) booklet https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5VB21T/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2

This one has helped me understand a lot better 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA9LBCQ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

A Simple Christianity: Rediscover the Foundational Principles of Our Faith Kindle Edition
by John F. MacArthur

I use the https://www.logos.com/product/594/the-new-living-translation with text comparison 

I just simply am just trying to find the basis of my prayer life with god and wanting to love jesus in a way i can understand how. I watched RightNow Media Theo, learning about God and who He's called us to be is easy and fun. Each lesson focuses on a spiritual topic that both entertains and teaches children about key aspects in the Christian faith. That's like how my life is at the moment when i said in having a child like faith

I know 
A Simple Christianity: Rediscover the Foundational Principles of Our Faith Kindle Edition
by John F. MacArthur

Has helped me understand a lot better Gods love for me, And i am still continue read it. 

Just mainly I need continue on better understanding foundational truths about Jesus at a low grade educational level. I know i came a long way in understanding /Grace/Faith better/ by continue trying to learn about it still struggling but i will learn them better. I do not understand Entire dependence upon the merits and mediation of the Lord Jesus Christ, as the only ground of any claim for blessing.
Which is found in 
Five Conditions of Prevailing Prayer By George Muller
 https://www.georgemuller.org/devotional/five-conditions-of-prevailing-prayer1

Or really any of it. I will try and make sense more of this if to anyone and really if something stands out  and u do not know what i'm trying to ask for just i know 
is i have an affection for Jesus that i never had and want to know the bibical jesus that found me he loves me and has won my heart and i just don't know him as he desires for to and i have strayed indifferently in my thinking and just want to get things right. I don't have a basis in what i truly understand and because of no church's around me and i know reading the bible renews the mind so im gonna do more of that. I'm out of the World, And all i do is The Word at least to the existent i know how, and really in came down to  to just sharing and explaining the best i can on with others helping on here and my experience so far in my christian life with little to no knowledge really i still try and fill my mind with scripture. Thanks for listening everyone.

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 2 2022 12:53 PM

I found  recently https://www.logos.com/how-to/study-the-bible  I'd like to understand more about it and it also brought me to  https://sermons.faithlife.com/features Not sure where to start

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 2 2022 6:38 PM

Josiah

I greatly admire your pursuit to understand God and the message he is seeking people to hear.  I want to simply suggest that the best thing you can do is read / listen to the Word of God itself. So many testimonies I have heard are from people who with no resources and no contact with others, have found that what has changed them was when they began to read/listen to the Bible (See Hebrews 4:12 and Psalm 119:11 as sample verses that show the power of the Word of God).  When I was young, I read the Bible over and over again and found it to be a book that was difficult to understand. But my mother encouraged me to keep reading it.  That advice I have often said was the best advice my mom ever gave to me.

I do not know your circumstance or where you are.  But if it is at all possible, I would suggest you pray that God would provide you with a mentor, someone who would be helpful to you.  It is not God's design for us to be lone ranger Christians.  Others can help you. And I am sure that God will lead you to the right people in time.

You have found some nice resources in Logos. Bookmark the ones that help you so you can find them again.  And may God bless you and guide you in your pursuit.

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 3 2022 7:14 PM

My circumstances are bad srry

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 4 2022 3:17 AM

Mark:
I greatly admire your pursuit to understand God and the message he is seeking people to hear.  I want to simply suggest that the best thing you can do is read / listen to the Word of God itself.

+1 Yes

Thread => Can you recommend a reading plan for a brand new believer? includes idea for reading & studying Ephesians. My highest prioritized commentary series includes comment about Ephesians 1:1

As the footnotes in the Today’s English Version (TEV) and Revised Standard Version (RSV) show, there is considerable doubt over whether the words in Ephesus belong to the text. The United Bible Societies’ Greek New Testament third edition (GNT) includes them but places them within brackets, thereby indicating a high degree of doubt about their genuineness. One reason which is given for retaining the words, other than the manuscript evidence, is that “the letter has been traditionally known as ‘To the Ephesians,’ ” but this is not convincing. The manuscript evidence supporting their omission is strong; it includes the earliest copy known of Ephesians, the Chester Beatty papyrus (1*) of the third century A.D. And it is difficult to imagine a copyist omitting the words if they were in the copy he was using. It seems better to consider “in Ephesus” an addition to the text, as do RSV, Jerusalem Bible (JB), Bible de Jérusalem (BJ), Traduction Oecuménique de la Bible (TOB), Moffatt (Mft), Goodspeed (Gdsp).

 

But it should be noted that with the omission of “in Ephesus” the Greek text reads literally “to the saints the ones being also faithful.” This is, to say the least, an unusual way to write in Greek, particularly because of the use of the participial phrase “the ones being.” Westcott, who holds to the Pauline authorship, states that it is not improbable that Paul should write “to the saints who are also faithful (believing) in Christ Jesus,” but one is inclined to agree with the judgment of Blass-Debrunner (B-D) that this construction “is impossible.” This is also the opinion of Zuntz. After the participial phrase “those who are,” a place name is expected such as in Romans 1:7, “those who are in Rome,” and Philippians 1:1, “those who are in Philippi” (see also 1 Cor 1:2 and 2 Cor 1:1: “the church of God the one being in Corinth”). Such considerations lend weight to the suggestion accepted by many that this letter was written to be sent to various places, and that after the Greek phrase “who are,” a blank space was left which was to be filled in with the locality to which that particular copy was to be sent. Copies survived which had “in Ephesus” written in at that place, but it is difficult to account for the fact that some copies survived without any place name, and that no copy has survived with another place name in it.

 

 Robert G. Bratcher and Eugene Albert Nida, A Handbook on Paul’s Letter to the Ephesians, UBS Handbook Series (New York: United Bible Societies, 1993), 4.

Sitting at the Feet of Rabbi Jesus: How the Jewishness of Jesus Can Transform Your Faith has Chapter 6: Rabbi, Teach Us to Pray that includes Jewish Insights on the Lord's Prayer.

Searching Faithlife Ebooks for Rabbi Jesus finds some resources to consider.

Searching Faithlife Ebooks for Recovery includes Celebrate Recovery & Life Recovery resources, which have meetings in variety of churches & online that include testimonies about Holy God transforming lives.

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 5 2022 6:58 PM

I just want to say thank you and wanted to add a little more where im coming from

My brother I think I’m just lost without actual real help. Any suggestions to a outreach program? I really want to learn but feel bond down and just keep trying to figure out things on my own but just cannot seem to grasp any bit of how to go about doing anything. It’s difficult because I’ve struggled with this all my life mentally impaired and always had no real help so Ive been real basic all my life. I never had school if you know what I mean. I ponder on
1 Corinthians 1:27 and where i do not know where god placed me really. So srry to keep bothering you. I do not want to ask for help but im just bothered because of no real human contact from true believers i just keep running after one thing after another feeling misguided. I just want to add when god had brought me out of this world as a whole this year since my new birth back 1 year in 5 months, leading up to that whole year of shedding off the old man and god shepparing me with out no human guidance or real teaching but see how god had drew me out of the world leading up to this year. I’ve just feel real disappointment and discourage on my part and to him i do not want to act or be this way towards him. Just only 5 months in and all i felt i kept running into is entanglement one after another

I just think back when jesus saved me hearing the gospel message and him having to have had compassion on me to give me new birth because I look back all I think is his love for me and how I struggle to be grateful even though I want to I just do not know how to respond. I just overwhelmed myself with research because I just wanted to get it right. I didn’t want to involve myself with false teachers. I’m not one to want it be about me, But as I even try to help myself I just do not know how I can even help others better even though I help others anyway, I think about how ones suppose to live like Christ. Him living through you but just seem unequip to do anything much for the kingdom with impairment and knowing god uses people all throughout the whole bible they were no buddies and he created them to being great somebuddies. I do not have any fundamental basic truths down in my head ive went every which way instead of studying on one topic. Doing everything myself because I never learned by myself or have done anything in my life growing up. But seeing myself try god having put that desire in my heart I still kinda made a mess on my own.

Just mainly I need continue on better understanding foundational truths about Jesus at a low grade educational level. I know i came a long way in understanding /Grace/Faith better/ by continue trying to learn about it still struggling but i will learn them better. I do not understand Entire dependence upon the merits and mediation of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Or really any of it. I will try and make sense more of this to anyone that needs me to and really if something stands out and u do not know what i'm trying to ask for just know i have an affection for Jesus that i never had and want to know the bibical jesus that found me he loves me and has won my heart and i just don't know him as he desires for to and i have strayed indifferently in my thinking and just want to just want to get things right. I don't have a basis in what i truly understand and because of no church's around me and i know reading the bible renews the mind so im gonna do more of that. I'm out of the World, And all i do is The Word at least to the exstent i know how, and really in came down to to just sharing and explaining the best i can with others helping me on here and my experience so far in my christian life with little to no knowledge really i still try and fill my mind with scripture.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2022 6:31 AM

josiah grace:
I don't have a basis in what i truly understand and because of no church's around me and i know reading the bible renews the mind so im gonna do more of that.

Josiah, I do not know where you are located.  But I once again want to encourage what you wrote...to read the Bible more.  God's Spirit has the ability and the desire to communicate simple truth to you.  You can do no better than to read God's Word.

josiah grace:
Just mainly I need continue on better understanding foundational truths about Jesus at a low grade educational level.

I wonder if anyone on the forum can suggest a Logos resource that would help.  One outside Logos might be https://www.everydaypublications.org/books.php . They publish commentaries on the Bible in simple English.  Another resource might be https://www.easyenglish.bible/ . This was developed for those learning the English language. There are also commentaries in basic English to accompany the Bible passages.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2022 6:40 PM

josiah grace:
i know reading the bible renews the mind so im gonna do more of that. I'm out of the World, And all i do is The Word at least to the exstent i know how, and really in came down to to just sharing and explaining the best i can with others helping me on here and my experience so far in my christian life with little to no knowledge really i still try and fill my mind with scripture.

Hearing & Obeying Holy God is Best. Praying, Reading, Memorizing, Meditating on Bible Words with Holy God is Awesome.

My top three favorite Bible books are: Ephesians has Holy God's view of people and how to live. Psalms are excellent for Love & Worship. Proverbs provide wisdom.

Thankful reading & hearing entire Bible many times has helped my contextual understanding & I look forward to learning more with Holy God.

Journaling idea is writing out interactions with Holy God.

Devotional idea => Personal Worship Journal has some scripture with reflecting question(s) for each day. Comparing answers over the years should show spiritual growth in Holy God. Recovery resources, especially Participant Guides & Journals, have more questions to discuss & journal with Holy God. Recovery from sin enables Freedom to Love Well as Holy God Loves.

My prayers include: "Lord, please help me to Love You with all my heart, mind, soul, & strength so I can worship You as You designed & deserve." along with "Lord, please heal Your harvesters in heart, mind, soul, & strength so we can worship You & do harvesting work with You" plus "Lord, please open every heart to see all nature Praising God."

My desire is Loving God with all of me so Holy God's Love flows into me to Love myself (as God Loves) & flows out to Love others as myself.

A commentary set from the early 1800's to consider => Poor Man's Old and New Testament Commentary 12 vols.)

Psalm 1

contents

This Psalm is supposed by some to have been written by Ezra, but upon what authority is not said. It is a short, but beautiful description, of the different features which mark the godly man from the sinner.

1. This can be fully said of no one among the fallen sons of men, with strictness of truth! and therefore we must of necessity suppose, that it treats of the Lord Jesus Christ. That his people, as his people, have an interest in the blessedness here spoken of, is as true, because they are part of himself. But here, as in every other instance, this ariseth only from their union with him, and their interest in him. I detain the Reader to remark, what a gradation is made use of in the description of the blessed man. He doth not walk in the counsel of bad men; much less stand still in their way, and never sits down by choice in their company. Precious Jesus! who but must be immediately directed to contemplate thee in this description, for thou wast holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens!

2. Reader, you do not forget who it was that said, I delight to do thy will, O my God; yea, thy law is within my heart; or, as the margin of the Bible more strongly expresses it, in the midst of my bowels, meaning in his very nature, being that Holy Thing the angel described to Mary. See Psalm 40:8. Luke 1:35. Sweet view of Jesus this! And in him sweet also to all his people; for, when they are renewed by the Holy Ghost, and quickened in Christ Jesus, God hath put his law in their inward minds, and written it in their hearts: so that they can and do say, Oh! how I love thy law! It is my meditation all the day. Psalm 119:97.

3. Had we no other clue to lead to the discovery of the Lord Jesus, as set forth in this Psalm, than what is here said of him, even this would plainly unfold it. For who but Jesus is the tree of life! Who flourisheth but him! Yes, blessed Redeemer, thy people planted in thee, and made branches in thee, will thrive in thee, and bring forth fruit in thee, for thou hast said, because I live ye shall live also. But though in thee, and by thee, and from thee, thy people live and derive all life, and nourishment, and moisture, and fruitfulness, in due season, yet it is because thou art the self-existing, life-imparting tree, in the midst of the garden of Jehovah; and being the same yesterday, to day, and for ever, thou art liable to no fading, nor falling, but art always blooming, both in blossom and fruit, towards thy people.

4. Here is a sad contrast! All that are not ingrafted in Jesus, the heavenly vine, their blossom shall go up as the dust, and their destruction cometh speedily! Every plant, saith Jesus himself, which my Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Matt. 15:13. This is a strong figure to shew the emptiness of the ungodly, the chaff; for what is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord. Jerem. 23:28.

5. What an awful decision that day of judgment will be when God shall winnow his floor, and while he gathers the wheat into his garner, burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. Matt. 3:12. Reader, do not forget: here, the Lord saith, let both grow together unto the harvest. But there, tares will be bound up in bundles, and burnt. Matt. 13:30.

6. The Lord knoweth them that are his, saith an Apostle. And as Jesus is the way, and the truth, and the life; so in Jesus the Lord approveth of all that are in Him; and not only approveth and accepteth them in Jesus, but while the way of seducers waxeth worse and worse, the way of every poor justified believer in the Lord Jesus is known and approved by him, and all such are accepted in the beloved. 2 Tim. 2:19.

Reflections

Reader, let you and I, while reading this precious Psalm, in the very opening of the book, look at, and study, and meditate upon it, as an introductory subject, concerning the Lord Jesus, to what we shall meet with concerning him and his work, through the whole of the sacred contents of the Psalms, as Jesus is represented in them. Let us, in that part of it which thus beautifully speaks of the perfection of our nature, never lose sight of Christ. And while we thus look up to him in this holiness of character, let it be our delight and our joy to tell God our Father, what a perfection of beauty, glory, and holiness, was in him, who is our divine head. Yes, thou dear Redeemer! I would so read of thee, and of thy holiness, as to have my whole soul rejoicing in the contemplation. For do I not know that thy righteousness is for thy people? thy obedience and delight in the Father’s law, becomes the justification of all thy redeemed. And in thy holiness, all thy people are accounted holy before God, because our God and Father hath an eye to thee as our glorious head, and beholds thy saints complete in thee. Hail, then, thou Holy One of God! Thou art the Lord, our righteousness! And thou art made of God to us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption. And do thou, blessed Lord, grant us faith to know, and to consider ourselves as perfectly secured in thee. Give us to flourish in thee, and from thee, as the tree planted near the river’s side, even from the streams of that river of life which cometh forth from the throne of God and the Lamb. Then, when the faithless and unbelieving shall die away as the heath of the desert, which knoweth not when good cometh, our souls may be as the well-watered garden, whose waters fail not, but deriving all from thee, thou wilt be in us a well of water springing up unto everlasting life.

 Robert Hawker, Poor Man’s Old Testament Commentary: Job–Psalms, vol. 4 (Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2013), 163–165.

Commentary & Devotional caution: humans are not Holy God so we cannot fully grasp all of Holy God. Only God's Word is eternal truth.

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2022 6:57 PM

Thankyou

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2022 11:41 PM

Josiah,

Many people have found it helpful to follow a devotional guide that assigns you daily Scripture readings and then has a brief (couple of paragraphs) reflection on that reading. There are many different devotionals, some go for just one year, but others continue on with new material every year or every quarter.

One publisher of devotionals that has an excellent reputation and has nurtured many Christians into a deepening faith is Scripture Union. It is "an international, interdenominational, evangelical Christian organization. It was founded in 1867, and works in partnership with individuals and churches across the world. The organization's stated aim is to use the Bible to inspire children, young people and adults to know God."

I don't know where you are located, but there are Scripture Union websites for the UK, USA, Australia, South Africa, and International. Explore whichever of those locales is closest to you. They provide all kinds of resources, but their flagship guide for new believers is Discovery the daily bible reading guide that comes out quarterly. "Discovery is ideal for those new to the Bible and just starting to explore. It provides a helpful game plan and structure for learning more about God and how His word applies to your life. The daily readings are written by a variety of authors from around the world, creating a unique multi-perspective approach to each section. When read in succession, Discovery devotionals lead you through the entire Bible in four years reading about 10-20 verses each day."

You can read the daily devotionals from Discovery online for free (for example, here's the one for June 7), or you can buy the booklet for the current quarter, or you can join Scripture Union and with your membership comes a subscription to Discovery.

Getting in the habit of daily Bible reading is a great way to grow in your knowledge of God and in your faith. And having a guide to lead you a long in it is a way to stay focused instead of being overwhelmed and not knowing where to start. It doesn't matter if you join it with the devotional in some random place. Eventually you will get through the whole Bible and will begin again, and again, and again.

The Scripture Union materials are not available in Logos, but I have such confidence in the quality of their publications that I would really recommend you go ahead with that and use Logos resources to supplement your primary reading.

Incidentally, Scripture Union was founded by someone who shares your name, Josiah Spiers.

https://scriptureunion.global/who-we-are/history-of-scripture-union/ 

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 23 2022 5:04 PM

i do not know any born again believers. I do not know, if anyone i can talk on phone maybe hopefully a elder or someone that is mature in the faith that i can go to and talk with im just really am burden. srry to come off at you so quickly like that. If i had to put it simply it's because i do not have christian fellowship here, and just wondering if u can lead me to someone that bring me in and help me. Because ive been just stranded and just want to grow in the love of christ and i havent been doing that because of ignorance. and im just humble and uneducated and wondered about it for a while.
I haven't read my bible and understanding  since i was born again 1 year 6 months ago, And for the first year i was slowly being drawn out of the world leading up to this year and  i have struggle being a lone and all trying to do everything myself where im uneducated and a little slow i found myself just looking at everything being impatient and just never knew how to do anything when it came to studying i never knew really how. I heard the gospel but never really knew it myself and been struggling with that wanting to learn to be cross centered and i started trying to use 
https://scriptureunion.org/how-to-read-pray/ and was wondering if it's okay. because im just not sure what im doing really and i do not know how to draw closer to god and ignite the fire that was once in me. I need couseling in my understanding.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 24 2022 1:44 AM

josiah grace:
https://scriptureunion.org/how-to-read-pray/ and was wondering if it's okay. because im just not sure what im doing really and i do not know how to draw closer to god and ignite the fire that was once in me. I need couseling in my understanding.

Josiah

Becoming a friend of Jesus, becoming a Kingdom Builder, what we sometimes call becoming a disciple is as much about living as it is about reading and studying.

The best advice I can give is to go out into the community and find a church and attend, when you have been for a couple of weeks don't ask yourself if you 'like' it, ask yourself if God is calling you to serve there?

I once found myself in a church that I really disliked but had a strong sense that was where God wanted me at that time. I buckled down and was well blessed by it.

'Lone Christian' is an oxymoron.

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How to get logs and post them. (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs)

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 24 2022 12:29 PM

That's been my problem 

brother i came to now realizing im at my peak of i really need support i do not know what to say or do when it comes anything really. i need guidance, counseling, teachings for then anything. I really do. Ive been trying to do everything on my own. i do not know who to turn to. and i feel i cannot turn to anyone because i have noone in my actual life that gives godly support i even contact people and had no reply. im actually dumb founded. any kind of crucial facility christian home i can get into now?I just wanted to ask u a question because before when i came to you'll i did not know what to say to anything when it came to help even i did not know how to seek it and was just lead further in problems. If only if i can really explain myself to you and tell u where im coming from instead of being led to others that led me to others ive just been run all over the place.

I should have been more open to people,
I should have been more open to people but i thought i could do it by myself

i do not know any born again believers. I do not know,  maybe hopefully a elder or someone that is mature in the faith that i can go to and talk with im just really am burden. srry to come off at you so quickly like that. If i had to put it simply it's because i do not have christian fellowship here, and just wondering if u can lead me to someone that bring me in and help me. Because ive been just stranded and just want to grow in the love of christ and i havent been doing that because of ignorance. and all i am is im just humble and wondered about help getting it for a while.
I haven't read my bible and understanding since i was born again 1 year 6 months ago, And for the first year i was slowly being drawn out of the world leading up to this year and i have struggle being a lone and all trying to do everything myself where im uneducated and a little slow i found myself just looking at everything being impatient and just never knew how to do anything when it came to studying i never knew really how. I heard the gospel but never really knew it myself and been struggling with that wanting to learn to be cross centered 

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 24 2022 2:01 PM

You need to go to a church where they have a “New Converts” class so you can learn the fundamentals of the faith.

DAL

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 24 2022 8:50 PM

DAL:

You need to go to a church where they have a “New Converts” class so you can learn the fundamentals of the faith.

DAL

Josiah, if there are no churches where you are, or if you are unable (for whatever reason) to get to a church, then it seems like you need someone to correspond with, or someone who can visit you. Praying that the Lord will send the right person your way. 

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josiah grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 25 2022 7:05 PM

I was watching How to Abide in Christ - Paul Washer - On I'll Be Honest
youtube and was wondering
Also can you use the NCV ? and read that.

I do not know how to put this

i came to now realizing im at my peak of i really need support i do not know what to say or do when it comes really anything. i need guidance, counseling, teachings. Ive been trying to do everything on my own. i do not know who to turn to. and i feel i cannot turn to anyone because i have noone in my actual life that gives godly support i even contact people and had no reply. im actually a child growing up i never really had been taught much i had a loving christian mother and when i heard the gospel a couple months later she past. any kind of crucial facility christian home i can get into now?

i did not know what to say to anything when it came to help even i did not know how to seek it and was just lead further in problems. If only if i can really explain myself to you and tell u where im coming from instead of being led to others that ive just been run all over the place. i just never had a brother or sister in christ and i thought that is who i was suppose to come to for it. since i had a regenerated heart ive had a affection for jesus like i have never had and im a bit slow uneducated and have been told to do things even when i do not know how to do them. I came from a back ground of resource classes.

I should have been more open to people but i thought i could do it by myself

I live out here in rutledge TN and i am on SSI walking distance to churches but never could find a home here. and just looking for real help.

Any answers help, to my previous answer or second. At least need one kind of help because i know the second one is asking a lot. thank you very much

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 26 2022 12:35 AM

josiah grace:
I live out here in rutledge TN and i am on SSI walking distance to churches but never could find a home here. and just looking for real help.

No empty house or apartment is a home until you make it your home. Even the most unpromising hovels can become places of joy.

You will not find a 'home' in a church until you actively make that church your home.

Buckle down and get on with it.

tootle pip

Mike

How to get logs and post them. (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs)

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 27 2022 12:47 AM

Josiah, you mention being on SSI and needing to find a "crucial facility christian home" you can get into. I'm not sure what that is. Is that a residential facility run by Christians? I don't want to make assumptions, but it sounds like you are in need of supportive housing?

I know you are talking about being new born and drawn "out of the world" but don't be afraid of the public services that non-Christians might offer you in the way of housing, mental health care, and so on. That is not mutually exclusive with seeking Christian growth and fellowship. Many caring people are doing the work of Jesus without even knowing they are; they might not know him as such, but if they care for others' physical and social needs, that is a good thing. You obviously wouldn't get answers to your theological questions from them, but once you feel safe and cared for, you can seek the other things.

I looked up churches in Rutledge, TN. Rutledge Baptist Church (https://www.rutledgebaptist.org) looks like a solid one, with good ministries. They have a Bible Study class on Sunday mornings at 10am before the worship service. They also have Lunch and Learn study units in the spring and fall (you'll have to wait a couple of months for that to start up again). And they are involved in ecumenical collaboration with two of the other churches in town on some common projects, which tells me they're good and humble folks, not holier-than-thou. Check them out and give them a chance before you decide that you can't feel at home there. Becoming connected to a church involves both giving and receiving. You might be hurting and very needy at first, but you need to go into it willing to become willing to offer yourself in friendship or volunteer service, once you feel safe there. Let the folks who greet you at the front door know where you're coming from, what you're seeking, and tell them you're shy or hesitant but ultimately hope to be able to contribute once you feel connected there. I'm sure that will help them to understand how they can assist you in fitting in.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 27 2022 7:31 AM

josiah grace:
I live out here in rutledge TN and i am on SSI walking distance to churches but never could find a home here. and just looking for real help.

My weekly activities typically has three in-person Recovery meetings for Christian community support: mostly Celebrate Recovery (CR) & some Life Recovery, which has people attending meetings from a variety of churches. CR has over 5 million people who have completed a step study, digital availability includes Faithlife eBooks (Participant's Guides 1 thru 4 is the first step study set & Participant Guides 5 thru 8 is the second step study set). Currently I am doing my third CR step study (using guides 1 thru 4 with me writing stuff in a spiral notebook), which is helping me abide more in the eternal True God for my own recovery from sin for freedom to Love myself & others as Holy God Loves me. Each person is responsible for their own recovery. God loving friends are awesome for hugs, discussions, text messages, & phone calls.

Celebrate Recovery is a Christ centered 12 step program for anyone struggling with hurt, pain or addiction of any kind. Celebrate Recovery is a safe place to find community and freedom from the issues that are controlling our life. CR group locator shows six CR meetings within 25 miles of 37861, including one on Monday evenings in Rutledge.

Celebrate Recovery Inside (CRI) is praying & looking for volunteers to go inside prisons & jails to enable inside residents to run CRI meetings. The people who begin CR Inside & continue CR when they get out usually are not locked up again because their lives continue to be positively transformed in God with helpful community support.

Life RecoveryThe Twelve Steps of Life Recovery are a set of biblical principles in addiction treatment that outline a course of action for tackling problems such as drug and alcohol addiction, overeating, sex addiction, and more. There are 12 Christian Foundations that Life Recovery is based on. Life Recovery does not have any in-person meetings within 25 miles of Rutledge, TN, but online has meetings every day.

My print library has Celebrate Recovery & Life Recovery Study Bibles.

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