Can we have a friendly dialogue… Notes…

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Steve Huffman | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 10 2022 7:14 PM

I’m not new to Logos, but I’ve steered away from the Logos notes other than highlights until now.  For personal study, spiritual formation class development and sermon development my notes have been in a separate disconnected system.  I’ve seen most of the videos on Logos Notes, YouTube selections, blogs, etc. but I just don’t see others who have gone 100% all in for their personal notes into Logos.  I’m not talking about personal books, word document attachments, etc…. I want to hear from those who have gone in DEEP with the Logos notes system - those who have wrestled with the in’s and out’s of it - have used it for study, sermon prep, printing later, research, etc.  I also wonder about legacy note transfer - how do I transfer my notes to my kids when I die? (Sounds like an unreasonable question, but it’s only unreasonable now because I’m living…. My 3 boys might (likely) enjoy reading my notes).

So let’s have a dialogue… who’s 10 feet deep into Logos Notes?

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2022 7:57 PM

Hello Steve. The majority of my notes are in Logos Notes. Yes, you can share your notes. The easiest way to do that is to create or join a Faithlife group. Send the link to your boys and they can download the notes that you uploaded. In one of Morris Proctor's trainings he talked about a lady who created annual devotionals and shared them with her family in this manner. I haven't had the need to share my notes but it is definitely an option. I have begun a notebook for John Piper archive sermons that I have listened to or plan to. In the note I anchor the Bible text with a specific icon. When I am reading in my Bible I will see that icon and I can click and see the note regarding the sermon. In my Bible study notes I create an anchor for the verse that the note relates to along with the icon that I have chosen for my Bible study notes. Again when I am reading in my Bible and see my Bible study icon I know that I have a note and can quickly review it. Please note that you can share notebooks but not individual notes, so if you plan to share them, make sure that you have them in notebooks. You and put them in notebooks later if you have not already done so. Another thing to remember is to tag your notes. It is much easier to find a specific note if you have tagged your notes. As I am reading either in Logos or elsewhere if I see an illustration or other interesting piece of information that I think I might want to refer to at a later time, I create a note in my Illustrations notebook. If you create notes based upon your research in Guides or Workflows you can anchor them to the related scripture. This means that all of your study notes are linked to the related Bible passages. In you use the SOAP, verse mapping or other method of Bible study you can record your research in notes and again they will be linked to your Bible. I think the advantage of going full in with Notes is that I have all of my research in one place. I don't have to remember what type of document I have it in - was it a guide? or a workflow? a personal book? etc. Someone on the forums told me that he doesn't use personal books when creating a book but rather uses the notes feature. I think the personal book is still better than notes for this purpose but it could be done. I guess the advantage here is that you don't have to upload it to Logos and it is available on all of your devices. You will need to work with notes and decide how you want to use them. Identify what highlights you want to use and what purpose you want for each highlight selection. Do the same with icons. I have found that I don't want to highlight large sections of text - only a part of a large highlight will show up in my note. So I have created a system to use for my highlights. Probably no two Logos users will use the Notes feature in the same way. Some use them extensively and some don't use them at all. The Notes feature is very powerful once you realize its potential and develop your own system for using them.  I hope that I have been helpful in what I have written. God bless you in whatever system you use for recording your notes.

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 2:23 AM

I bought Logos just for its Notes feature, over 12,000 so far.

Logos can anchor a Note to more than one verse, with a Note icon at each verse. Each Note icon’s shape and color to alert me to its type of comment.

Grouping Notes into Notebooks allows sharing with others. You can see how this works for me by checking my public Notebooks.

Go to Docs > Public > Type: Notebook > Author: Jack Hairston

You can even (temporarily) attach my Notebooks to your Logos. Here are steps to do this.

5584.Notebook sharing.docx

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 6:19 AM

Now that I finally jumped into an MP Seminars subscription, I’ll be able to take full advantage of the notes features and other features.  I can’t believe I had completely forgotten about “Cited by” tool 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ If you don’t use it, you lose it!

Best part about MP seminars is that by the time my subscription expires next year, I’ll be able to learn whatever new features L10 brings to the table

👍😁👌

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:01 AM

In Logos 8, Faithlife did a redo on the notes tool and from that point forward all my notes from Logos I used the Logos Notes Tool. You can tag your notes, link resources, add pictures, add tools, and do anything inside the Logos ecosystem. I only use the Logos Notes Tool now.

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Steve Huffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:04 AM

What about documents?  for instance - Tim Mackie has done a phenomenal job outlining Ezra and Nehemiah in a wonderful PDF document.  I'd love to just drop that document into notes, however I don't want to go through the hoops of transitioning that document into word, making a personal book, etc.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:15 AM

Steve Huffman:
 I'd love to just drop that document into notes

No we can't put PDF documents into Notes.

It is possible to drag a document to the Favorites Tool and then clicking the Favorite will open that document in a separate viewer. See https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016517871-Favorites-Bookmarks for details about Favorites.

But, in the context of your original query, this isn't something that can be done in Notes.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:28 AM

I didn't see any comment above about your boys.  I'm not a Logosian note'r, but the Print/Export for Notes has really improved the portability/goodbye-ability, to non-Logosians ... Word, importable into databases, and PDFs.

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 7:49 AM

Steve Huffman:

What about documents?  for instance - Tim Mackie has done a phenomenal job outlining Ezra and Nehemiah in a wonderful PDF document.  I'd love to just drop that document into notes, however I don't want to go through the hoops of transitioning that document into word, making a personal book, etc.

Steve, do you have a link for the pdf? In working with pdfs you would need to copy them into a notes document. This takes a fair bit of work in formatting but if it is something that you really want it is probably worth the time. 

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 12:03 PM

Multiple scripture anchors makes the notes a killer feature. When you want to tie internal references to an author like Moses or Paul or link between NT and OT, this rocks!

The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 1:08 PM

Steve Huffman:
Tim Mackie has done a phenomenal job

If FL were on its toes, it would have already taken the Tim Mackie PDF set and produced a Logos resource from them. They'd sell them by the thousands. Include his videos in an optional bundled set and they would be off to the races. :-)

[For those who don't know who TM is or are not familiar with this context, here's a link to one of his videos. I used Leviticus as it seems to be one of the toughest books in the OT to get through for many folks.

https://bibleproject.com/explore/video/leviticus/   ]

My thanks to the various MVPs. Without them Logos would have died early. They were the only real help available.

Faithlife Corp. owes the MVPs free resources for life.

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Steve Huffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 1:25 PM

Thanks for the offer.  I do know how to get it to a word document and import into Logos, but that seems so obfuscated.  I'm hopeful for a notes feature that just allows uploading of documents... that's a big ask. :) 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 4:22 PM

Steve Huffman:
 I'm hopeful for a notes feature that just allows uploading of documents... that's a big ask. :) 

A very big ask and a wonderful feature that I don't want Faithlife to spend their limited resources. However, if a third party develops the tool and licenses it to Faithlife I would be ecstatic. However, given the proprietary nature of PDF file structure, I'm hopeful in the long run and pessimistic in the short run.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Steve Huffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2022 6:44 PM

Ah yes…. A Notes API to Notion ….

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Mark VanOuse | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 13 2022 9:08 AM

TOTALLY agree with you Steve! Notion is an incredible tool that you can build information as you want. The API to Notion and Evernote as well (I have about 20,000+ Evernote notes of Bible relevance) would be huge. I'm relatively new to Logos. The notes feature is pretty nice. What I don't like about it is the notes don't interact with much. My Evernote notes represent a huge body of my personal research spanning 2+ decades (before Evernote I used Outlook notes)

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