Suggestion: Better Organisation of Prioritisation

I agree 100% that this needs to be improved. I think this is one of the areas where Logos designed a new feature without fully realising how useful and important it would be. I would personally like to see prioritisation moved to a tab of its own (like collections), rather than as a column within Library. This would mean we could actually see the prioritisation column rather than have it so narrow!

I would also like to be able to add separators between various types of resources, but even better would be an option to filter the prioritisation list so I could see just bibles, or just dictionaries, etc.

Thomas Black said:

This sounds like a uservoice option.  Sadly I am out of votes

I wonder if one could temporarily help drum up support for a feature by reassigning one's votes from some other features to give this one some momentum until other newbies who haven't used up their votes yet vote for it (and talk it up on the forum as well). Then when it has reached sufficent traction, you can move your votes back to features you care more about. That might be too much work to be worth it, though, for a feature that is not on your top 10 list.

Thomas Black said:

What I really need is to find the button that says MVP's get 100 votes.  LOL

Heh, heh. Actually we get a million votes each. MVP stands for megavotes person.

Bohuslav Wojnar said:

instead of being able to filter the resources, it would be enough just to do the list collapsible by the type of resources

I don't think that would work, because it assumes (for example) that all commentaries will be together, and the example above shows that isn't always the case.

Andy Evans said:

 wondered if it might be useful to be able to create collapsable folders within the prioritisation list (e.g. NT commentaries, OT commentaries, journals, bible dictionaries, etc.).

The creation of folders would, of course, be customisable and optional and I cannot see that it would impact on the desired effect of prioritisation as I do not see any benefit to prioritising a commentary over, say, a bible dictionary (please correct me if I am wrong on this).

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DominicM said:

I was savage: I deleted evertthing from the list and only added back my key bibles and a couple of other resources, it has had no impact AFAIK on searching, PG/EG etc

mine is definitely managable

Mine is definately not manageable. If you have a large and varied library you have to prioritise heavily to get the most out of Logos:

• Red: Bibles followed by Apocryphas.
• Light pink: Apostolic Fathers
• Purple: Bible Dictionaries
• Green: Commentaries
• Light brown: Lexicons
• Grey: Systematic theologies
• Plum: First-century Judaistic writings
• Yellow: Devotionals

Mark Barnes said:

DominicM said:

I was savage: I deleted evertthing from the list and only added back my key bibles and a couple of other resources, it has had no impact AFAIK on searching, PG/EG etc

mine is definitely managable

Mine is definately not manageable. If you have a large and varied library you have to prioritise heavily to get the most out of Logos:

• Red: Bibles followed by Apocryphas.
• Light pink: Apostolic Fathers
• Purple: Bible Dictionaries
• Green: Commentaries
• Light brown: Lexicons
• Grey: Systematic theologies
• Plum: First-century Judaistic writings
• Yellow: Devotionals

Wow!

Dave Hooton said:

"Restrict resource to..." this data type - meaning I don't want it used for any other data type.

That may be the most useful option that could be implemented. Other than folders for organization this suggestion might fix the majority of problems with prioritization.

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ok I thought I got prioritization... but obviously not... surely afer you have priorited your top 5-10 books/bible/commentaries.. the other results and where they appear in the passage gude/search etc.. are irrelevant (aren't they?)

Am I missing something important?

I have 3000+ books in my library but cant see why that should equate to a huge list like yours Mark.. is it all about control/customisation and personal preference..?? IMO if so seems a bit extreme...

I have come up with a clever hack for adding headings to divide my prioritization list up into categories (pink highlighting added in screenshot editor):

It's a new use for all those hidden resources you don't ever intend to use. I unhid a few of them, renamed them each to a section header title (e.g., "Section: Bibles"), retaining the original name in a tag just in case, as follows: "renamed from: {original title}" then prioritized them above the books in the section they were a heading for. I set the advanced prioritization to apply only to that resource, so it won't show up on me in unwanted contexts. (There's still the issue of them showing up in search results, but I can easily overlook search hits in any book titled "Section: ___"; or I could make a collection of all books in my library that do NOT have "Section" in their title and search only in that; fortunately no other books in my library do.)

Let me know if you have any tweaks to improve this. Initially I'd hoped I could make a bunch of essentially empty resources by importing empty sermon files in from L3, and use those as section headers, since they'll never show up in searches. But they all come in as one resource ("Sermons of Rosie Perera") no matter what tricks I tried. I even tried making some sermons by a different author, but it reassigned all of my sermons to that different author. Then I tried tricking Logos by making a duplicate copy of my LogosUserSermons.lbxlls but it outsmarted me and removed the duplicate. Any ideas how I could make this work? If not, I'm pretty happy with my solution. Once PBBs come along, perhaps I'll be able to make some empty PBBs and use those for this purpose.

Even with this hack for section headers, I still want some improvements to the prioritization list (some of these ideas I got from others):

1. Make it its own tab, complete with print/export function
2. Implement searching or filtering in the prioritization list (I guess you can't do both, because a Find box at the top will either do one or the other)
3. Allow drag & drop of multiple resources at once, both to add to the prioritization list and to move things around within it
4. Give us a way to filter out of our Library all resources that have been prioritized already so we can look for any we might have missed, e.g.,
   rating:>0 AND prioritized:no  (or "... ANDNOT prioritized:yes")

Dave Hooton said:

Rosie Perera said:

I have come up with a clever hack for adding headings to divide my prioritization list up into categories

Ouch! That's a painful hack. If I was to do anything I'd scatter commentary series around because their name is in bold and it doesn't affect anything.

Hmm, your idea isn't that much better. The commentary series names do not tell you what each section is. Yes, you know, but it would be nice to have them say "Bibles," "Bible Dictionaries," etc.

What this is all telling us is that people are getting desperate and Logos needs to do something about this!

Rosie Perera said:

What this is all telling us is that people are getting desperate and Logos needs to do something about this!

Yes, that is the most important information. It is up to Logos to invent some working system, whether it will be collapsible sections or filter system, that's up to them to decide. I would be happy with anything what would bring order into the list.

thx Mark, enjoy conference..