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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 19 2010 5:08 AM

Just thinking this morning.....

What about a customizable devotions report that would pull in:

  • My selected Bible reading plan text (or links)  (especially discontiguous chapters like the Prof Horner plan) one after another.  Of course, include a link next to each listed pericope to open a passage guide on it.
  • The Prayer requests that are slated for today.
  • Any of today's Devotional readings from the calendar devotionals which I preselect.

Of course I should be able to arrange these in the order that I want it to appear each morning. 

 

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 5:44 AM

Excellent suggestion - seconded

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 6:08 AM

Thomas Black:

Just thinking this morning.....

What about a customizable devotions report that would pull in:

  • My selected Bible reading plan text (or links)  (especially discontiguous chapters like the Prof Horner plan) one after another.  Of course, include a link next to each listed pericope to open a passage guide on it.
  • The Prayer requests that are slated for today.
  • Any of today's Devotional readings from the calendar devotionals which I preselect.

Of course I should be able to arrange these in the order that I want it to appear each morning. 

 

++Yes

Edit Note:

Thinking more about this should the report have a notes section and be saveable by date so that it could become a daily devotional journal ?

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 6:27 AM

This is a great idea including the journal part. I would vote for this!!

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 7:51 AM

Andrew McKenzie:
Thinking more about this should the report have a notes section and be saveable by date so that it could become a daily devotional journal ?

Yeah!  That is a great addition Andrew, and it fits precisely with the current document model.  The only need on top of that is to have an index of daily notes.

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 10:01 AM

Fantastic Idea!!

Yes

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 11:31 AM

Thomas Black:
Of course I should be able to arrange these in the order that I want it to appear each morning. 

One could come fairly close to this in a layout. Would some customized panes in a layout be an alternative ... I'm thinking along the lines of being able to link a dated resource to a specific tab. And, Thomas, you missed the most important element for making it useful:

  • My selected lectionary readings that are slated for the day.

(Seriously, even if I am noted for dogging lectionaries) Big Smile

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Darren Paul Wright | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 1:27 PM

Just to clarify, but how, specifically, would this differ from the homepage? It seems to me that most of what you are suggesting is already available.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 3:46 PM

 

MJ. Smith:
One could come fairly close to this in a layout. Would some customized panes in a layout be an alternative ... I'm thinking along the lines of being able to link a dated resource to a specific tab. And, Thomas, you missed the most important element for making it useful:    

  • My selected lectionary readings that are slated for the day.   

(Seriously, even if I am noted for dogging lectionaries) Big Smile

Indeed!  I actually do have a devotions layout (sans the lectionaries sorry for my oversight [;)).

As for adding the lectionaries, YES!  I would love it!  Customizability just like the other guides.


Darren Paul Wright:
Just to clarify, but how, specifically, would this differ from the homepage? It seems to me that most of what you are suggesting is already available.

Thanks for asking Darren,  I would personally envision this not being just links to the material (though that's possible I suppose) but the actual material.  IOW I'd like to have my assigned Bible chapters/pericope's listed in the order that I would read them, followed by the other texts as well.

HOWEVER, if the report were a simple series of links it would still accomplish more than the home page does. In my imaginary report, the sections I add would automatically expand based on the day's date and then clicking the links would pop open the books in order (or all at once?)

As it stand right now, I have to

  1. load the home page,
  2. click my bible reading plan
  3. Close the info window since I don't want it
  4. close the auto generated passage guide
  5. Resize my Bible window for easy reading and read.
  6. Go back to the home page
  7. Click on my first calendar devotional reading.
  8. Read it
  9. Go back to the home page
  10. Click on my other calendar devotional
  11. Open my prayer document
  12. etc...

Lots of steps to finish what one report with today's links all in a row could do.  (Or in my current settup a layout.)

 

The problem with using a layout is that I have to remember to update it every day just before I close it with all of tomorrow's readings set and ready to read.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 3:48 PM

Note: I know I typed in a lot of unnecessary steps for things that could be easily accomplished with shortcuts etc.  However - this is the way people learning to use Logos will experience the program as a devotional tool. 

This is why I included the long way of doing things.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 4:23 PM

Thomas Black:
The problem with using a layout is that I have to remember to update it every day just before I close it with all of tomorrow's readings set and ready to read.

It seems to me that making a layout date dependent might  be the easier modification to the system

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 8:32 PM

Darren Paul Wright:

Just to clarify, but how, specifically, would this differ from the homepage? It seems to me that most of what you are suggesting is already available.

Darren, I must admit when I first read Tom's suggest I asked the same question before giving it the thumbs up.  For me it differ's in that it pulls everything together neatly in the one place.  The Home page, you'll find devotionals in the 'newspaper', but prayer lists and reading plans in the ribbon. And as Tom expounded there's lots of steps to go through to tie everything together.   If a layout could be date bound then that might be an option but where do you place the control for that ?  Currently layouts really dont' have a settings panel. I thinik a devotional guide would be something that really sets Logos Bible Software apart from other options for the layperson who uses bible software mainly for this type of study. Everything they would want to access for a devotional sectoin would be all rolled up into one neat report they would just need to open. I've made a quick mockup in Snagit Editor of what the report potentially could look like. Note it is rough and no way intended as a final design but just as a visual on the idea.  For instance I took some snapshots from Libronix 3 Lectionary viewer, just to put a picture to that section.  For one of the other sections I took some screen dumps from a wiki page. 

 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 19 2010 8:42 PM

@MJ  As Andrew points out, you'd have to include settings in layouts etc.  But IMHO Guides are designed for this sort of thing.

 

Andrew McKenzie:
I've made a quick mockup

Andrew, that's perfect!  I had originally thought about including the actual text, but then it wouldn't function like all the other guides. but This ties it together perfectly.  All in one nice tidy panel, and ready for today!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 20 2010 1:06 AM

Thomas Black:
@MJ  As Andrew points out, you'd have to include settings in layouts etc.  But IMHO Guides are designed for this sort of thing.

Report had not translate to Guide for me. I'd have no problem with it appearing as another Guide. I'd thought you wanted the various panels open.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 20 2010 4:57 AM

MJ. Smith:

Thomas Black:
@MJ  As Andrew points out, you'd have to include settings in layouts etc.  But IMHO Guides are designed for this sort of thing.

Report had not translate to Guide for me. I'd have no problem with it appearing as another Guide. I'd thought you wanted the various panels open.

Can I blame Morris Proctor?  He calls them "reports" and "guides" interchangeably.  See where listening to the professionals will get ya   Stick out tongue

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:03 PM

Thomas Black:
Can I blame Morris Proctor?  He calls them "reports" and "guides" interchangeably.

Definitive Mo's fault. My installation of Logos 4 doesn't vary   though it might be fun if it did. Should I petition Logos to add a little Harry Potter Hogwarts unpredictability?

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:20 PM

MJ. Smith:
Should I petition Logos to add a little Harry Potter Hogwarts unpredictability?
Sure, but only the Mac side. Devil

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 27 2011 7:17 AM

 I came across this one today and thought it deserved a little "bump".

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 27 2011 7:52 AM

Thomas Black:

 I came across this one today and thought it deserved a little "bump".

Thanks for the bump.  I missed this discussion during the first round.  I like this suggestion a lot. 

What I personally would like to see a layout tied to the current day (can go back and forward into time), and have this be my default layout that opens when I start L4.

 

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 27 2011 8:00 AM

I’d third that bump.  This is a great idea - would help no end!!  Yes

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