Official: Older subscriptions will soon be migrated to Logos/Verbum Pro

Thank you!

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected? 

Will this affect the Wordsearch Perks subscription?

What should I do with my current plans, Natalie?

Please explain in basic English like I'm 5. I'm lost everytime I visit the forum once a week or less. 

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter. 

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example: 

1. Premium: Designed for small group prep
2. Pro: Designed for sermon prep
3. Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to. 

This is where my confusion is: Premium has the 3 so small group prep courses in mind, Pro has 5, so is it different from the 3 in premium or is it 2 additional that are sermon prep based. And then the Max, same question, different or building off the previous and adding 3 that are academic or Original language courses.

I have been very happy with everything that has transpired except one thing. One of the allures for my subscription to FL Connect (No Library) has been the ability to get 3 ebooks each month. (I know this is a perk lots of folks on the forum have said is not a big deal; but for me, it is.) In fact, I have long had a plan to acquire lots of Loeb volumes through this perk. When the subscription change was announced, I started trying to get as many volumes as possible of Pliny's "Natural History". I knew I would be a couple volumes short by the time my FLC subscription would run out, but I could buy those volumes separately; there would've been only a couple. However, with this perk being discontinued soon, my planning seems to have been in vain.

So why can't we continue to grab our 3 ebooks each month until our original plan's date passes? It seems reasonable for FL to uphold their commitment to their customers for what they understood was part of the soon obsolete purchase, IMO.

danwdoo said:

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

When the transition is complete, you will receive a final email to confirm your subscription has been migrated (you will not experience any lapse of access to Logos/Verbum during this transition)  

Hi Natalie.
Thanks for your helpful message. I am a Connect no library annual subscriber. I desire to upgrade to Max and then pay 2 years to lock in the current price for that timeframe. Should I wait until the migration is complete and I receive this final email and then make the switch? 

While I'm not Natalie, that is what I am doing. The Connect-Pro subscription, which many of us were switched to recently, isn't the real thing. Sometime in the next month or so, the migration will go all the way to Pro. At that point is the better option to switch to Max. I'm in the boat you are, as the saying goes.

Hmmm.  The pot is getting sweeter.  [8-|]

As part of the Logos 10 farewell tour, I purchased the Preaching Suite Essentials (full license, not the subscription.)

However, I got an email that I will be moved to Logos Pro from Preaching Suite. There is not Preaching Suite subscription showing in my account.

Something doesn't seem right here...

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

Many of you are aware of our upcoming transition to subscription this fall, and we’re excited to share some information for those of you who already subscribe to various Logos products. 

When our new Logos and Verbum subscriptions are released, we’ll sunset many of our old subscription products, but don’t worry! We will be migrating existing subscribers to the new subscriptions automatically. Keep reading for more details and a timeline for this migration. 

If you are currently subscribed to one of the following annual subscriptions, your new Logos Pro price will be $99.99/yr.: 

• Faithlife Connect Essentials (3.0) + Logos Pro (early access) - Annual

I was just charged $149.90 instead of $99.99

I have a Faithlife Connect annual subscription through January. What will happen to my FaithlifeTV subscription? I prefer to watch my Mobile Ed classes on Faithlife TV rather than in the Logos app.

Natalie,

If you have the opportunity, please see: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/225713.aspx

Thanks.

Graham Criddle said:

Dave Bucci said:

Natalie, can you please explain what the "5% annual reward coupon" is?  What is it 5% of, e.g., is it a coupon matching 5% of our books/packages purchases?  Or 5% of the annual subscription cost?  Thank you!

Natalie's post (second in this thread) had:

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

Additionally, subscribers of the Pro and Max levels will enjoy: 

• Access to all features at sermons.logos.com - available at time of migration 

• A 5% annual reward coupon - migrated subscribers will start earning toward this immediately 

*Excludes subscriptions, purchase of credit (like Book Cache and gift cards), bulk purchases, and Pre-Pub and pre-order titles. 

Does the last line answer your question?

Actually, it's not clear (at least to me) that it does, Graham, because only the "additional 5% off across the entire Logos catalog*" line is footnoted with an asterisk.  It may just be a mistake, that the end-of-the-year annual reward line doesn't have an asterisk as well, not sure.  Or, it could be 5% of the subscription cost (effectively, a 5% rebate).  If it's 5% of catalog purchases, it might warrant the extra $30 to step up from Premium to Pro.  Thank you for replying!

Mike Binks said:

The Preaching Suite is a collection of resources. There is (almost) no subscription for resources.

It was a subscription product until the early access offers came up.

I haven't been "migrated", so I still hope that this e-mail was in error.

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

Mattillo said:

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected? 

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter. 

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example: 

1. Premium: Designed for small group prep
2. Pro: Designed for sermon prep
3. Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to. 

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing. 

If any features from your existing subscription are not included in your new subscription, we will permanently unlock those features for you to own forever. That means you won't lose any functionality when we make the switch. This will happen as part of the migration this fall.  When the migration takes place, you will lose access to the library resources included in your current subscription. However, you will gain access to ~400 books as part of your new subscription including these titles in Logos Pro:

Is there a list of what I will be losing? What’s the diff between resources available in my Faithlife Connect subscription and what’s is Logo’s Pro? I need to know if a regular resource will suddenly be unavailable?

Bump!

Tes said:

Tes said:

Natalie Winburn (Logos) said:

Mattillo said:

Can you explain how the MobileEd will work? Do we choose our 5 courses or are they preselected? 

Great question! I'd be happy to explain. . . Each tier of subscription will get access to a different number of Mobile Ed courses each quarter: Premium will get 3 courses per quarter; Pro will get 5 courses per quarter; and Max will get 8 courses per quarter. 

These courses will be preselected by our team and included in your subscription. We will curate them based on the use-case of the subscription tier, for example: 

1. Premium: Designed for small group prep
2. Pro: Designed for sermon prep
3. Max: Designed for academic and original language study

As the end of each quarter nears, you'll receive email and in-app reminders about your courses changing soon. We'll offer you a generous discount to purchase the courses that get cycled out as well. When a new quarter starts, you'll be notified about the new courses you have access to. 

Tes, it has been answered elsewhere (I cannot find the link at the moment) that Pro has all that Premium has, plus what is in Pro, and that Max has all that is in Premium and Pro. If I can find the exact place where it was answered, I'll link it (I am horrible at searching and finding posts I've read before in the forums...I hope it becomes easier with the new forum updates!).

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing. 

I thought Premium and Pro were included in Max, but from your explanation it looks like three of them have independent contents. If this is the case, I have paid USD 129 for Max for nothing. 

Bump!

Wow.  What I had typed apparently didn't get included in my post....lol. That's weird. I should have checked this earlier. My bad. But, yes, Max has everything, feature-wise, that Premium and Pro have.

Roy, thank you so much for the link.  Turns out I did get an email on this and that was the same document it referenced.  I should have paid better attention! [:D]

[@Natalie Winburn (Logos)] There are a large number of books that I will be losing from my Faithlife Connect subscription that I am either in the middle of reading (Confessions of St. Augustine, Heidelberg Catechism, etc.) or are regular go-to references (A number of Bible Studies, and Verse-by-Verse books, etc.).  What is Logos doing to address these?  Are we SOL or some kind of grandfathering or way to gather a number of these back so they aren't lost?

Thanks for the address.

Bill Cook said:

So, I got an email about the migration from Essentials to Pro. In it was a link to a pdf listing the resources I would lose and those I would gain. The email stated that I would not lose access to resources that I had purchased. However, just perusing through the losing access side of the ledger it shows I would lose access to my Grant Osbourne commentaries that I paid for. There was a lot of 6 that I bought in 2016 and is in my purchase history.

So, either the list is wrong or I will lose access to previously purchased resources.

Also, a second question - if my library says I have permanent access to resources, are some of those going to be lost too?

I suspect the PDF listing is a generic one sent out to the 'migrating' customers, and does not take into account what books the customer already owns from that list. All resources with permanent licenses belong to you and will not be lost.