Any reason to keep Libronix installed?

Jason Saling
Jason Saling Member Posts: 344
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a need to keep Libronix for Mac installed?  Such as needing it to recognize older formatted books, and then importing it to Logos 4 Mac?  or will Logos 4 Mac recognize any Libronix books that I may purchase from third-party's?

Jason Saling

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    You can always call customer services to unlock any third-party Logos books for you.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Ryan Schatz
    Ryan Schatz Member Posts: 147 ✭✭

    Libronix has been uninstalled a while ago for me.  I'm almost starting to ask the question whether or not I keep the Windows version of L4 on my Mac!  The progress on the Mac version has been truly great.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Is there a need to keep Libronix for Mac installed?

    I don't have the MAC version, but I still keep L3 on my computer alongside L4 since I still don't trust L4 completely (especially when it comes to morph searches).

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Neal Gordon
    Neal Gordon Member Posts: 32 ✭✭

    Other than dragging the old Libronix DLS application to the trash, does anyone else know of any of the old Logos 1 for Mac files that can be deleted to save some disk space?

  • Martin Diers
    Martin Diers Member Posts: 112

    Other than dragging the old Libronix DLS application to the trash, does anyone else know of any of the old Logos 1 for Mac files that can be deleted to save some disk space?

    Assuming you didn't change any defaults or add other install locations, you should delete the Libronix DLS folder inside:

    /Library/Application Support

    That is where all the resource files (which, depending upon your package, can be a very large directory) and other settings are stored.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,520

    I don't have the MAC version, but I still keep L3 on my computer alongside L4 since I still don't trust L4 completely (especially when it comes to morph searches).

    L 1.2.2 for Mac does not do Morph searches.

    Personally, I deleted Libronix for Mac many weeks ago. I think I had opened it once since L4 Mac was introduced. As someone else has commented, I am considering whether or not I need the Windows version any longer. However, I do like printing which is in L4.1 Win. Sentence Diagrams are also there, but I can live without that feature.

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151

    I took off Logos for Mac 1 months ago. I will be glad to be able to do printing, but since most things can be copied to Pages '09, Word for Mac, Keynote '09 or PowerPoint for Mac. Logos 4 Mac GM is working very well, I am so glad Logos is on the Mac.

    In Christ,

    Philana Crouch

  • David Mitchell
    David Mitchell Member Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭

    Is there a need to keep Libronix for Mac installed?  Such as needing it to recognize older formatted books, and then importing it to Logos 4 Mac?  or will Logos 4 Mac recognize any Libronix books that I may purchase from third parties?

    Libronix for Mac is inferior in nearly every way to Logos 4—I see no reason to retain it. In fact, Logos 4 is even better at handling older books than Libronix is!

     

    David Mitchell
    Development Lead
    Faithlife

  • Is there a need to keep Libronix for Mac installed?  Such as needing it to recognize older formatted books, and then importing it to Logos 4 Mac?  or will Logos 4 Mac recognize any Libronix books that I may purchase from third parties?

    Libronix for Mac is inferior in nearly every way to Logos 4—I see no reason to retain it. In fact, Logos 4 is even better at handling older books than Libronix is!

    A possible use for Libronix - can use while Logos 4 reindexing for hours [;)]

    Observation: during indexing prefer to sleep or use Logos 4 on iPad.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Bryan Heller
    Bryan Heller Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    I miss the old home screen with the automatic floating panels and using the stoplight buttons to interact with individual windows.  The big gray screen in the background is weird and sort of ugly.  I understand that the code was based on the Microsoft version and we get an enormous amount features faster because of this, but I'm hoping to have some of the Mac beauty that Logos 3 had put into Logos 4.  It is really awkward to open menus to float panels and using an "x" in the top right corner to close windows.  It still feels a little bit too much like a Windows port to me.

  • Thomas Ball
    Thomas Ball Member, Logos Employee Posts: 3,261

    Other than dragging the old Libronix DLS application to the trash, does anyone else know of any of the old Logos 1 for Mac files that can be deleted to save some disk space?

    This page should tell you how. There is a script you can run. Or you can hunt down the listed files/locations manually. http://www.macbiblesoftware.com/support/articles/1002/ 

     

  • JesseJahn
    JesseJahn Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    Martin,

    Just so I know what I'm doing, where are those files (or their Logos 4 Mac equivalents) kept?  It seems you're telling us to delete all of our resources.  I know you're not, really, but I'm asking how the new system works so I can avoid doing something dumb in the future.  Can you attempt a brief explanation for me?

    Thanks,

    Jesse Jahn

  • Thomas Ball
    Thomas Ball Member, Logos Employee Posts: 3,261

    JesseJahn said:

    Martin,

    Just so I know what I'm doing, where are those files (or their Logos 4 Mac equivalents) kept?  It seems you're telling us to delete all of our resources.  I know you're not, really, but I'm asking how the new system works so I can avoid doing something dumb in the future.  Can you attempt a brief explanation for me?

    Thanks,

    Jesse Jahn

     

    I'm not Martin but I thought I would clarify. The Libronix and Logos 4 paths are completely different (as the image below will illustrate). Their origin points in the directory are not the same. Deleting the resources for Libronix will NOT affect Logos 4. if you have both programs and only use Logos 4 you might as well get rid of Libronix in its entirety because Logos4 is not using the same resource files Libronix uses and nothing user defined imports into Logos 4 from Libronix on the Mac. 

     

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  • Larry Quinlan
    Larry Quinlan Member Posts: 66 ✭✭

    "Libronix for Mac is inferior in nearly every way to Logos 4—I see no reason to retain it. In fact, Logos 4 is even better at handling older books than Libronix is!"

    Mostly, but not always. Take for instance the "Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary". It contains some gorgeous charts and maps. The Libronix file weighs in at 374.1 MB while the Logos 4 file comes in at a wimpy 77.2 MB. The significance of this is that the graphics in the Libronix file are rendered at a much higher resolution and are consequently that much more useful. When copied and pasted into Preview, PowerPoint, or another similar program these graphics can be cropped, zoomed-in, etc., to a much greater scale and are thus more useful. Since Logos 4 can can handle Libronix files, I hacked Logos' SQLite databases to accept the older files. (I don't recommend you try this at home.) This worked for a while, but over time, as my Logos book files and application were updated, my hacked Libronix files were eventually replaced by Logos 4's inferior versions. The same applies for the Holman Bible Handbook and the Holman Bible Atlas--the Logos 4 files are inferior to the Libronix files. For that reason I keep Libronix installed on my Mac.