SUGGESTION: A collection of catechisms

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 21 2010 1:07 AM

This omits (or tries to) catechisms already available in Logos. An incomplete list of potential entries:

The Baptist Catechism by the Charleston Association 1813
A Catechism for Babes, or Little Ones by H. Jessey 1652
A Short Catechism about Baptism by John Tombes, 1659
Instruction for the Ignorant, Bunyan's Catechism, 1675
Benjamin Keach's Catechism, 1677
The Orthodox Catechism by Hercules Collins, 1680
The Philadelphia Baptist Catechism
A Catechism For Girls and Boys, by Richard Cecil, 1798
Gadsby's Catechism, 1800
A Catechism or Instructions for Children and Youth by Dan Taylor, 1810 [multiple editions]
The Baptist Scriptural Catechism by Henry Clay Fish, 1850
A Puritan Catechism by Spurgeon 1855 [Logos may have this]
National Baptist Catechism by E. C. Morris, 1855
A Catechism for Little Children by Baptist State Convention of the North Carolina Sunday School and Publication Board, 1864
Compend of Christian Doctrines Held by Baptists: In Catechisms by W. W. Everts, 1866
A Catechism of Bible Teaching by John Broadus, 1892
A Brief Catechism of Bible Doctrine by James P. Boyce
Catechism of the Waldenses
The Catechism of the Episcopal Church
A Catechism of Creation: An Episcopal Understanding
The catechism of the Methodist Episcopal church.: Numbers 1, 2, and 3, in one volume, designed for consecutive study in Sunday schools and families. 1855
Two Short Catechisms by Owen, John
Unitarian catechism by Minot J. Savage, 1890
The Racovian Catechism of 1605
Genevan Catechism by Calvin, 1545
Protestant Reformed Churches Catechisms (contemporary)
Baltimore Catechisms (contemporary)
Basel Catechism by Oecolampadius, 1526
Zurich Catechism by Leo Juda, 1534
Zurich Catechism by Bullinger, 1555
Baptist revision of Heidelberg Catechism by Hercules Collins, 1680

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 6:45 AM

Yet another Reply to: SUGGESTION: A collection of catechisms

Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) Second Edition

YouCat by Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn  - a youth version of the CCC

If one is Catholic then one needs these works to advance their faith

If one is NOT Catholic then one needs these works to know what true teachings of that church are. 

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Gerald Kapanka | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 7:28 AM

Wonderful list! If i might be so bold as to add, Luther's Large and Small Catechisms.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 7:34 AM

Yes Having first begun to investigate catechisms this year, this would be a great addition to Logos!

I'd love to see a massive interconnectivity chart to where each one addresses specific points of doctrine, and where there are agreements/dissagreements.

Aside from some expected departures I would anticipate seeing a large agreement section on many many questions.  (deity of Christ, etc)

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 8:25 AM

Thomas Black:

I'd love to see a massive interconnectivity chart to where each one addresses specific points of doctrine, and where there are agreements/dissagreements.

YesYes

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 2:01 PM

Thomas Black:
I'd love to see a massive interconnectivity chart to where each one addresses specific points of doctrine, and where there are agreements/dissagreements.

Pelikan did some work on this for creeds. I've tried but it is very slow going because Churches use the same words but do not mean the same thing by the word.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 6:29 PM

MJ. Smith:
I've tried but it is very slow going because Churches use the same words but do not mean the same thing by the word.
:-/  Yeah, I see what you mean.  

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 14 2012 3:34 PM

David Ames:

Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) Second Edition

If we get CCC will we also need: [Taken from Amazon]

The Companion to the Catechism of the Catholic Church: A Compendium of Texts Referred to in the Catechism of the Catholic Church Including an Addendum

The Catechism of the Catholic Church reads "often the texts of Sacred Scripture are not quoted literally but merely indicated as a reference ('Cf.') in the footnotes. For a deeper understanding of those passages, the reader should go to the texts themselves. These Biblical references are a working tool for catechesis."


This Companion to the Catechism of the Catholic Church Book of References contains all the passages of Sacred Scripture referred to in the Catechism arranged according to the paragraphs in which the references are made.


But that is only a beginning. The Catechism also refers to conciliar texts, papal documents, writings of the Fathers and of the Saints. There are more than 3,600 of these references extending from the earliest credal formulations of the ancient Church to the documents of Vatican II and beyond to the magisterial teaching of Pope John Paul II. The Book of References includes all the texts referred to arranged, along with the Scripture passages, according to the paragraphs of the Catechism in which they are referred.
This Book of References is a valuable instrument in teaching, understanding, and implementing

 

 

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 14 2012 5:28 PM

MJ,

Do you have any plans to bring all the L3 PBB of articles and creeds/catechisms over to L4 docx files?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 14 2012 6:02 PM

Alan Charles Gielczyk:
Do you have any plans to bring all the L3 PBB of articles and creeds/catechisms over to L4 docx files?

Yes, but I'm waiting to know Logos rules and adding some indexing so I don't know when I'll be ready to make them publicly available.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 14 2012 6:21 PM

MJ. Smith:

Alan Charles Gielczyk:
Do you have any plans to bring all the L3 PBB of articles and creeds/catechisms over to L4 docx files?

Yes, but I'm waiting to know Logos rules and adding some indexing so I don't know when I'll be ready to make them publicly available.

Yay, I really appreciated having those in Libronix and can't wait to get them in L4.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 26 2019 3:36 PM

Its been a nearly a decade and some of these have been published ... but has the user base changed enough for this to get some traction?

MJ. Smith:

This omits (or tries to) catechisms already available in Logos. An incomplete list of potential entries:

The Baptist Catechism by the Charleston Association 1813
A Catechism for Babes, or Little Ones by H. Jessey 1652
A Short Catechism about Baptism by John Tombes, 1659
Instruction for the Ignorant, Bunyan's Catechism, 1675
Benjamin Keach's Catechism, 1677
The Orthodox Catechism by Hercules Collins, 1680
The Philadelphia Baptist Catechism
A Catechism For Girls and Boys, by Richard Cecil, 1798
Gadsby's Catechism, 1800
A Catechism or Instructions for Children and Youth by Dan Taylor, 1810 [multiple editions]
The Baptist Scriptural Catechism by Henry Clay Fish, 1850
A Puritan Catechism by Spurgeon 1855 [Logos may have this]
National Baptist Catechism by E. C. Morris, 1855
A Catechism for Little Children by Baptist State Convention of the North Carolina Sunday School and Publication Board, 1864
Compend of Christian Doctrines Held by Baptists: In Catechisms by W. W. Everts, 1866
A Catechism of Bible Teaching by John Broadus, 1892
A Brief Catechism of Bible Doctrine by James P. Boyce
Catechism of the Waldenses
The Catechism of the Episcopal Church
A Catechism of Creation: An Episcopal Understanding
The catechism of the Methodist Episcopal church.: Numbers 1, 2, and 3, in one volume, designed for consecutive study in Sunday schools and families. 1855
Two Short Catechisms by Owen, John
Unitarian catechism by Minot J. Savage, 1890
The Racovian Catechism of 1605
Genevan Catechism by Calvin, 1545
Protestant Reformed Churches Catechisms (contemporary)
Baltimore Catechisms (contemporary)
Basel Catechism by Oecolampadius, 1526
Zurich Catechism by Leo Juda, 1534
Zurich Catechism by Bullinger, 1555
Baptist revision of Heidelberg Catechism by Hercules Collins, 1680

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 7 2021 12:53 PM

I wonder if some folks might be interested in a collection of 20 volumes of old catechisms: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests/posts/catholic-catechism-index-20-vols

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 11:36 AM

Forgive me here..... but ...   I have searched for "catechism" in the Scriptures... and do not find it..... so these "catechisms" that everyone is speaking of .... is something dreamed up by either one man or a group of men.  Is my thinking right?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 11:48 AM

xnman:

Forgive me here..... but ...   I have searched for "catechism" in the Scriptures... and do not find it..... so these "catechisms" that everyone is speaking of .... is something dreamed up by either one man or a group of men.  Is my thinking right?

Forgive me here..... but ...   I have searched for "commentary" in the Scriptures... and do not find it..... so these "commentaries" that everyone is speaking of .... is something dreamed up by either one man or a group of men.  Is my thinking right?

Forgive me here..... but ...   I have searched for "dictionaries" in the Scriptures... and do not find it..... so these "dictionaries" that everyone is speaking of .... is something dreamed up by either one man or a group of men.  Is my thinking right?

Forgive me here..... but ...   I have searched for "Bible software" in the Scriptures... and do not find it..... so these "Bible softwares" that everyone is speaking of .... is something dreamed up by either one man or a group of men.  Is my thinking right?

In short, I'm not in the mood for this ____ today unless I consider it failed humor.

catechesis (n.)

"oral instruction, catechism," 1753, from Latinized form of Greek katekhesis "instruction by word of mouth," from katekhein "to instruct orally," originally "to resound" (with sense evolution via "to sound (something) in someone's ear" to "to teach by word of mouth"). From kata "down" (in this case, "thoroughly") + ekhein "to sound, ring," from ekhe "sound," from PIE *(s)wagh- "to resound" (see echo (n.)).

It is a term that has been used by many denominations to describe materials for teachers.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 2:16 PM

Thanks for the definition... I did not mean to offend. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 4:51 PM

xnman:
I did not mean to offend. 

I wasn't offended as it was clear that you'd not seen the beginning of the thread which requested catechisms from a number of threads of the reformation. Many people think that catechisms must be in question/answer format (not all are), that they represent a complete presentation of the faith (they are for teaching not doctrinal precision), and that they are Catholic (they are Anglican, Reformed, Baptist, Puritan, Waldensens, Unitarian, Methodist, . . . . .) I was trying to correct those misconceptions through humor rather than a mallet.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 8:11 PM

Well...  I just think the Bible sheds a lot of light on all that stuff. IMHO...

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 8 2021 8:51 PM

xnman:
Well...  I just think the Bible sheds a lot of light on all that stuff. IMHO...

I can't think of a Christian catechism that doesn't rely on the Bible ... which is why it doesn't usually need to be said. Creeds are similarly Bible based. Are you familiar with the 11th century sermons that are solely excerpts from scripture?

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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