Dear Logos, to relieve the burden on those with large numbers of pre-publications being released

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 23 2010 6:53 PM

I suggest that you spread the pain by putting some of these collections into the pre-publication stream. I'm quite sure it would help spread the pain. Big Smile

Alexander Schmeman
1. For the Life of the Wordl: Sacrament and Orthodoxy
2. The Eucharist: Sacrament of the Kingdom
3. Of Water and the Spirit: A Liturgical Study of Baptism
4. Celebration of Faith: The Virgin Mary
5. Introduction to Liturgical Theology
6. Great Lent: Journey to Pascha
7. Our Father
(and/or others)

Sebastian Brock
1. Syriac Fathers on Prayer and the Spiritual Life
2. The Luminous Eye: The Spiritual World Vision of Saint Ephrem
3. Ephrem the Syrian: Selected Poems
4. Holy Women of the Syrian Orient
5. Fire from Heaven: Studies in Syriac Theology and Liturgy
6. St. Ephrem the Syrian: Hymns of Paradise
7. The Bible in the Syriac Tradition
8. The Wisdom of Saint Isaac the Syrian
(and/or others)

John Breck
1. Scripture in Tradition: The Bible and Its Interpretation in the Orthodox Church
2. Longing for God: Orthodox Reflections on Bible, Ethics and Liturgy
3. God With Us: Critical Issues in Christian Life and Faith
4. Stages on Life's Way: Orthodox Thinking on Bioethics
5. The Shape of Biblical Language: Chiasmus in the Scriptures and Beyond
6. Spirit of Truth: The Holy Spirit in Johannine Tradition: The Origins of Johannine Pneumatology
7. The Power of the Word: In the Worshiping Church

Johanna Manley
1. The Bible and the Holy Fathers for Orthodox
2. Grace for Grace: The Psalter and the Holy Fathers : Patristic Christian Commentary, Meditations, and Liturgical Extracts
3. Wisdom, Let Us Attend: Job, the Fathers, and the Old Testament
4. Isaiah Through the Ages
5. The Lament of Eve

Henri de Lubac
1. Catholicism: Christ and the Common Destiny of Man
2. Corpus Mysticum: The Eucharist and the Church in the Middle Ages
3. The Discovery of God
4. Exégèse médiévale
5. A Brief Catechesis on Nature and Grace
6. The Mystery of the Supernatural
7. The Drama of Atheist Humanism
8. Paradoxes of Faith
9. More Paradoxes

Josef Pieper

1. Leisure: The Basis of Culture
2. The Four Cardinal Virtues
3. Faith, Hope, Love
4. Abuse of Language Abuse of Power
5. Only the Lover Sings: Art and Contemplation
6. Happiness and Contemplation
7. Guide to Thomas Aquinas
8. The Concept of Sin
9. In Tune With the World: A Theory of Festivity
10. Scholasticism: Personalities and Problems of Medieval Philosophy

Bart D. Ehrman

1. Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them)
2. Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
3. The New Testament: A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings
4. Lost Scriptures: Books that Did Not Make It into the New Testament
5. Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew
6. God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question--Why We Suffer
7. The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot: A New Look at Betrayer and Betrayed
8. A Brief Introduction to the New Testament
9. Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium
10. Peter, Paul and Mary Magdalene: The Followers of Jesus in History and Legend
11. The New Testament and Other Early Christian Writings: A Reader
12. The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament
13. Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 1:31 AM

I'm not sure how this would help my bank account, but the thought of a Sebastian Brock Collection brightens my day. YesYesYes

Most of the other collections also look promising. Yes (It's just that I'm not interested in Ehrman).

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 5:56 AM

I definitely support de Lubac, though you forgot Splendor of the Church. That, Corpus Mysticum and Medieval Exegesis would be my first priorities. Brock and Schmemann would be nice too, but I can't see me affording them any time soon, unless they are very very cheap. As a new user I have too many things far higher on the list...

 

But how about a more general Introductory Orthodox Bundle? The EOB Bible. The Orthodox Study Bible. Something on the Liturgy (or liturgies, rather). Timothy Ware's The Orthodox Church, and The Orthodox Way. Lossky's The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church. A Schmemann or two. The Way of a Pilgrim.  And a few more.

 

Actually, I would say the same thing for de Lubac. First do a From Newman to Ratzinger Collection, with the 1-3 most important works by Newman, Maritain, Garrigou-Lagrange, Thérèse of Lisieux (not a theologian, admittedly, but she is a Doctor of the Church) de Lubac, Chenu, Congar, von Balthasar, von Speyr, Rahner, Küng, Lonergan, Schillebeeckx, Vorgrimmler, Dulles, Gutiérrez, Wojtyla and Ratzinger (did I forget someone? Chesterton, Bouyer and Daniélou, maybe; and perhaps the VI and VII documents should be included, as well, or at least the most important ones; and maybe a small selection of encyclicals). Then go on to do complete collections with each individual writer, for us real geeks. At which point I would definitely support de Lubac and Ratzinger going first. 

 

 

 

 

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 6:20 AM

fgh:

But how about a more general Introductory Orthodox Bundle? The EOB Bible. The Orthodox Study Bible. Something on the Liturgy (or liturgies, rather). Timothy Ware's The Orthodox Church, and The Orthodox Way. Lossky's The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church. A Schmemann or two. The Way of a Pilgrim.  And a few more.

Yes Some of these books have been suggested before (at least Timothy Ware and the Orthodox Study Bible).

I'm curious about the second volume of Ratzinger's trilogy on Jesus which is due to appear next year. It would be nice to have it in Logos.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 6:35 AM

Hendrik-Jan van der Wal:
I'm curious about the second volume of Ratzinger's trilogy on Jesus which is due to appear next year. It would be nice to have it in Logos.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 1:58 PM

Hendrik-Jan van der Wal:
(It's just that I'm not interested in Ehrman).

Not surprising but I was trying to cover as broad a spectrum as I could and couldn't bring myself to Borg or Spong. Ehrman is popular enough that I find it useful to follow his thought.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 2:08 PM

fgh:
But how about a more general Introductory Orthodox Bundle? The EOB Bible. The Orthodox Study Bible. Something on the Liturgy (or liturgies, rather). Timothy Ware's The Orthodox Church, and The Orthodox Way. Lossky's The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church. A Schmemann or two. The Way of a Pilgrim.  And a few more.

I would definite purchase a more generalized set ... but "Collected Works of XXX" keep being requested on the forums. More often than not I've never heard of Mr. XXX. I thought it was time to request an XXX that I actually knew. Mind you there are others that I could have chosen esp. Pelikan, Rahner, Congers, Herschel, Scholem, Kugel ... I'm very flexible because there are so many that are not yet available.

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 2:35 PM

MJ. Smith:

Mind you there are others that I could have chosen esp. Pelikan, Rahner, Congers, Herschel, Scholem, Kugel ...

I can already hear my chequebook weeping!

MJ. Smith:

Ehrman is popular enough that I find it useful to follow his thought.

You're certainly right that he is popular enough. We had to read Ehrman for our introductory New Testament class and I wouldn't be surprised if his book is the standard textbook at most dutch universities.

Edit: I checked the websites of 7 dutch universities and four of them mention Ehrman's The New Testament as an introductory textbook.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:57 PM

 

I would go for Schmemann and Pieper. I'm not familiar with the others.

MJ. Smith:

Mind you there are others that I could have chosen esp. Pelikan, Rahner, Congers, Herschel, Scholem, Kugel ...

I'd go for the first four of these. Haven't heard of the other two.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 24 2010 11:14 PM

Rosie Perera:
I would go for Schmemann and Pieper. I'm not familiar with the others.

You did very well. I think you, and many others, would like Sebastian Breck (Syrian studies) and John Brock (Orthodox) in that they have both done very interesting work on the Bible in the Church and Bible interpretation.

Johanna Manley is more obscure but she does anthologies of Orthodox church fathers on Scripture and should have a broad appeal if people see samples of her work.

Henri de Lubac is simply an influential Catholic theologian of the twentieth century. I am personally fond of him but then again I'm fond of Teilhard de Chardin. I'd have to admit that there are other Catholic theologians deserving collections prioritized above him but hey it's my list. Stick out tongue

Ehrman was raised evangelical but considers himself to be an agnostic (or is it atheist) who writes top sellers for public consumption. He's worth knowing because he is representative of a class of scholarship one needs to know is out there if you have any interest in apologetics. I'm sure some would be horrified to see him in Logos, but I would find it useful specifically for apologetics.

Scholem may be pushing a bit too far - he is the major contemporary scholar of Jewish mysticism. One can't understand Judaism without knowing Scholem. He was a favorite of the late 60's San Francisco crowd. He was a professor in Jerusalem who died in the early 80's. I consider him essential but omitted him because of his emphasis on mysticism which I don't think Logos has quite built the market for - or, at least, the pressure for including him should come from their Jewish publishing partners.

James Kugel has become highly visible in the last few years with his How to Read the Bible and The Bible As It Was. Both of these were popular in the sense that they were carried in the major bookstores. These are books I'd place high up on the list of required reading on Biblical interpretation - plus simply great reads. I didn't put him on the list because I've not read his other works (yet).

I think that introduces you to all the unfamiliar names.

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James W Bennett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 25 2010 5:50 AM

I would have to agree that Alexander Schmemann, Sebastian Brock, and John Breck are indispensable.

I would add Bart Ehrman with some reservation. He is a TOP notch scholar in that he provides well researched material. I just believe that he has a disconnect when he presents his conclusions from the data. So by all means, read his stuff, use the data, come to your own conclusion :)

MJ. Smith:
James Kugel has become highly visible in the last few years with his How to Read the Bible and The Bible As It Was. Both of these were popular in the sense that they were carried in the major bookstores. These are books I'd place high up on the list of required reading on Biblical interpretation - plus simply great reads. I didn't put him on the list because I've not read his other works (yet).

I cannot praise this author enough. His knowledge of Second Temple period literature is encyclopedic. He also can write in a way that makes it a pleasure to read. I have found very few books I enjoyed as much as his Great Poems of the Bible.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 4:47 PM

yet another bump

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 6:04 PM

fgh:
did I forget someone?

What about Bernard Lonergan?

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 7 2014 7:18 PM

H.-J.van der Wal:

Most of the other collections also look promising. Yes (It's just that I'm not interested in Ehrman).

Funny, Ehrman is the only one of the bunch that interests me.

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