Amazon Kindle: What are the chances...

Michael Anda
Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

and IF adopted, when?  This looks to be my platform of choice.

 

 

 

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  • T Gerold Castle
    T Gerold Castle Member Posts: 405 ✭✭

    There is a GREAT chance that Amazon will come out with a Kindle. Wait -- what is the actual question?

    HAHA

    In HIS Eternal Service,
    Tom Castle
    **If we will do God's work, in God's way, at God's time, with God's power, we shall have God's blessings!!**

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I have no official information, but I'd be surprised if it was coming soon, or even at all because of Kindle's app pricing structure. (Kindle still don't officially support other apps, their software development kit is still in limited beta. But their app pricing structure is available.

    The problem is the massive amount of data that would need to get transferred onto the Kindle. That means the app couldn't be free as it would be way more than 1Mb ("Active content applications that are smaller than 1MB and use less than
    100KB/user/month of wireless data may be offered at no charge to
    customers.")

    Instead, "Kindle active content must be priced to cover the costs of downloads and
    on going usage". That would mean you'd have to pay a fortune to get your Logos resources on your Kindle.

    Not only so, but even apps you pay for "must have nominal (less than 100KB/user/month) ongoing wireless
    usage". Without ongoing wireless usage, even Logos' iPhone app is just a reader - and Kindle don't allow other readers on their device, so they wouldn't allow an app that just allowed you to read Logos books.

    To get around this, you'd either have to charge a monthly fee for using Logos on the Kindle, or go to enormous expense of building the functionality of a mobile Bible software package Kindle when Logos haven't even managed that on the much more popular/powerful iPhone.

    Either way, Logos on Kindle would be prohibitively expensive, both for Logos, and for users.

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  • Michael Anda
    Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭

    That's too bad, Mark.  You've definitely spoiled my October with that news.  Perhaps a good chunk of November too.  [8-|]

     

     

     

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    That's too bad, Mark.  You've definitely spoiled my October with that news.  Perhaps a good chunk of November too.  Geeked

    The good news is that for the price you would have paid for app usage you can purchase and Ipad :-)

     

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Another option, for private use only, would be to print one or two resources and turn them into Kindle resources.  I have seen Mobi and pdf software printers for example - formats that are readable on the Kindle.  It would not be legal to share these files, but I do not think it would out of line to create such material for personal use.  The cost is in terms of time, rather than dollars, if you choose this route.

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    Another option, for private use only, would be to print one or two resources and turn them into Kindle resources.  I have seen Mobi and pdf software printers for example - formats that are readable on the Kindle.  It would not be legal to share these files, but I do not think it would out of line to create such material for personal use.  The cost is in terms of time, rather than dollars, if you choose this route.

    In the iPhone/iPad forum there's some info of people's experience with Kindle.  I think it would be good for reading, and not all Logos books bristle with biblical quotes, cross references etc.  I hope to get a Kindle when I go to England for Morris Proctor's seminar in February, probably also an iPad, and am having to contain my soul in impatience till then.  My sister could forward it to me, but even registered post is uncertain here.  Once I got a chit for a parcel for someone else in my P.O.Box.  When I looked at the chit at home, I saw it was not for me.  My neighbour handed it back at the [post office and the boy he gave it to said:  You've got the chit, so take the parcel if you want!  If that were to happen with a Kindle, the insurance might say it had been signed for and refuse to believe it was not my signature.....  So I wait till February.  Maybe Anchor Yale will have released their resources to Logos by then??[;)]

     

  • Alan Charles Gielczyk
    Alan Charles Gielczyk Member Posts: 776 ✭✭

    I just don't get it, one can read kindle books on the iPad AND use Logos, why would anyone choose a kindle? I have spent time with the device and do not see the attraction of the eink. Personally I think it's a marketing ploy that has worked to Amazons favor. Buy an iPad, I am not one af those apple nuts, I use pc for my computing needs, but I can see the writing on the wall.

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    I just don't get it, one can read kindle books on the iPad AND use Logos, why would anyone choose a kindle? I have spent time with the device and do not see the attraction of the eink. Personally I think it's a marketing ploy that has worked to Amazons favor. Buy an iPad, I am not one af those apple nuts, I use pc for my computing needs, but I can see the writing on the wall.

    Since, as indicated above, I chose a Tablet PC and installed the Kindle App.  It works well   And that is why I have not purchased a Kindle for myself.

    On the other hand, my wife uses a more traditional laptop - we purchased a Kindle for her - even after installing the Kindle App.  Her 17" laptop was too big to lug and uncomfortable for reading on the road or in bed.  

    As with most computing decisions, there is no "one size fits all."  Hearing how we have made our decisions may assist in the decision make process for others.

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Michael Anda
    Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭


    $139 iPads are hard to come by in my neck of the woods.


     

     

     

  • Jonathan Pitts
    Jonathan Pitts Member Posts: 670 ✭✭

    The other way to use the Kindle is using its in-built browser to visit library.logos.com. I am now using this to read longer books in places where I don't want to take my laptop (for example bed). The only down side is that you can't alter the text size, which is just slightly smaller than I would like. The advantage over the method of converting Logos book to a Kindle book (which is quite straight-forward and does not take long) is that you can access the footnotes and bible references fairly easily.

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

     

    $139 iPads are hard to come by in my neck of the woods.

    [:D]

    While I personally can stare at a computer screen all day long with no issue (at least, I haven't begun to pay for it yet) I understand that some people have a hard time with it and find it easier to read from a screen that doesn't refresh. I did notice that the next version of the Nook moves away from E-ink.

  • Michael Anda
    Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭

    I tend to forget about that option.  I have a 315 book disparity in my resource count between Logos 4 and biblia.com.  Are there licensing issues at play here?

     

     

     

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Are there licensing issues at play here?

    Yes, not all resources are currently licenced for mobile use. Logos are working on it and adding new resources fairly frequently.

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  • Michael Anda
    Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭
  • Brian Stevens
    Brian Stevens Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I know the effort would be big, but if Logos could make software to convert the books users already have into Kindle books even without linking functionality for personal use (synced through USB), that would be great.  You mentioned the more powerful and popular iPhone.  The thing that it is missing is an unbacklit display.  When it comes to pouring through volumes of text without eye strain the Kindle is unmatched.  That is what I as a Logos user would appreciate.  Reading and studying on the computer and iPhone screen is fatiguing.  Even if it is not the Kindle I hope the future for Logos holds the ability to eventually read on something similar, even it is expensive, I believe you would make it up in the long run.