Spurgeon's Missing "Sword and the Trowel" volumes ...?

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Stephen Paynter | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 11 2010 11:37 AM

I have recently become interested in the Downgrade controversy (a 19th century debate between C.H. Spurgeon and the Baptist Union of Great Britain). A number of Spurgeon's important articles on the matter were published in the Sword and Trowel in1887, so I started to seriously think about getting the Sword and the Trowel in Logos.

However, my plans to purchase this resource came to a screaming halt when I discovered that the Logos collection runs 1865-1884 ... thus stopping some years short of 1887-89.

Is there any chance that the rest of the Sword and Trowel from Spurgeon's time could be added as a pre-pub?

See the following article for an account of why the Down Grade controversy is important for contemporary evangelicals:

 "The Down Grade Controversy and Evangelical Boundaries: Some Lessons from Spurgeon's Battle for Evangelical Orthodoxy" by Dennis M. Swanson, Faith and Mission Volume 20. 2002 (vnp.20.2.12). Wake Forest, NC: Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. (Available in Logos through the Theological Journal Library 1-10).

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Aaron Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 12:21 PM

Yes. Thank you for bringing this up. I own all of the Spurgeon resources that Logos has to offer and was disappointed that the Sword and Trowel came up short. Why does it stop at 1884?

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 1:12 PM

This would be interesting to know.  I would have assumed Spurgeon's ministry really took a nose dive in his last couple years due to his physical health.  However this is Charles Spurgeon we're speaking of.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 1:18 PM

Aaron Sauer:
disappointed that the Sword and Trowel came up short. Why does it stop at 1884?

I also would like an answer.  I am very interested in this subject and it really makes no sense that the latter Sword and Trowel are not included in the Spurgeon material.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 1:33 PM

Stephen Edward Paynter:

I have recently become interested in the Downgrade controversy (a 19th century debate between C.H. Spurgeon and the Baptist Union of Great Britain). A number of Spurgeon's important articles on the matter were published in the Sword and Trowel in1887, so I started to seriously think about getting the Sword and the Trowel in Logos.

However, my plans to purchase this resource came to a screaming halt when I discovered that the Logos collection runs 1865-1884 ... thus stopping some years short of 1887-89.

Is there any chance that the rest of the Sword and Trowel from Spurgeon's time could be added as a pre-pub?

See the following article for an account of why the Down Grade controversy is important for contemporary evangelicals:

 "The Down Grade Controversy and Evangelical Boundaries: Some Lessons from Spurgeon's Battle for Evangelical Orthodoxy" by Dennis M. Swanson, Faith and Mission Volume 20. 2002 (vnp.20.2.12). Wake Forest, NC: Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. (Available in Logos through the Theological Journal Library 1-10).

You can see some of Spurgeon's writing on the subject, including some excerpts from issues of Sword and Trowel from 1887-1888, including that seminal article "The Down Grade" from the March 1887 issue, in the preview of his book The Down-Grade Controversy, on Google Books.

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 1:39 PM

I checked in WS and theirs ends at 1886, but apparently they have all his writings on The Down Grade Controversy compiled into a book (including the later Sword and Trowel issues) by the same name.

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 1:48 PM

Paul Golder:

I checked in WS and theirs ends at 1886, but apparently they have all his writings on The Down Grade Controversy compiled into a book (including the later Sword and Trowel issues) by the same name.

Yes, that is probably the same book I referenced above that is available on Google Books in preview mode. You can't see all of it, but you can see lots of pages before you run up against the limit.

Logos should get this book. It is not in their Spurgeon collection, but it should be.

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Stephen DeKuyper | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 3:50 PM

I just wrote a paper that referenced the Down-Grade Controversy. Needless to say, I was also a bit surprised and disappointed that it wasn't included in the Spurgeon collection that I purchased?

 

Stephen

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 4:44 PM

Rosie Perera:
Yes, that is probably the same book I referenced above that is available on Google Books in preview mode.

Looks like it is Rosie. Missed your post before I posted mine or I would have referenced it.

Rosie Perera:
Logos should get this book. It is not in their Spurgeon collection, but it should be.

Agreed:

"These facts furnish a lesson for the present times, when, as in some cases, it is all too plainly apparent men are willing to forego the old for the sake of the new. But commonly it is found in theology that that which is true is not new, and that which is new is not true."

Charles H. Spurgeon, The Down Grade Controversy

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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