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Rob Tartaglia | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 8 2010 4:15 PM

Anywhere from an hour to a day. All that I get on the iPad is the basic "Read the Bible in a Year" reading plan. It used to work fine with my last two reading plans but for some reason I cannot get it synced to the iPad. The Reading Plan on the computer is tracking fine.

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Dennis Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 4:36 AM

Well, I believe the banner advertisement on this very site for the iPhone logos 4 app states "Your Library in Your Pocket". Unfortunately, that is not a true statement no matter how you read it.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 5:20 AM

Dennis Miller:
Well, I believe the banner advertisement on this very site for the iPhone logos 4 app states "Your Library in Your Pocket". Unfortunately, that is not a true statement no matter how you read it.

I agree it could be clearer ('A library in your pocket' would be better), but as you say, it's a banner advertisement. As such, it's meant to be clicked on, and the landing page gives a pretty clear indication of what to expect, including a link to those resources which are available.

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 6:07 AM

My interlinear books still display horribly. Everything still runs together. Am I doing something wrong? (iPhone 3GS)

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 6:16 AM

Have you downloaded them for offline reading? If not, you need to.

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 6:22 AM

I picked the Lexham Interlinear LXX and set offline to ON but it's still a mess. I think I have to wait for the arrow to change to an airplane. Then I'll see. Thanks!

 

YESSSSSS!!! Now it works! Thanks!

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 9 2010 8:26 AM

Yes, you need to let it completely download.

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Dennis Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 10 2010 4:03 AM

What upsets me is that I just paid $99 bucks for a collection of books I was looking forward to being able to read on my iPad only to find out after the fact that they are not available to download to my mobile devices. No where in the description did I find anything stating that "This product is not available for mobile use".  I am becoming very soured on this whole in the cloud technology and these net controlled/linked apps. Just give me something I can installed on my devices that works standalone and only requires network access if I want it for updates and such.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 10 2010 4:23 AM

Dennis Miller:
What upsets me is that I just paid $99 bucks for a collection of books I was looking forward to being able to read on my iPad only to find out after the fact that they are not available to download to my mobile devices. No where in the description did I find anything stating that "This product is not available for mobile use".

Underneath the product image on every product page, and close to the add to cart button is a box that says "Works on". It will tell you whether it's available on the iPhone, or just Mac and/or Windows.

Works on: iPhone and iPad; requires Logos 4 base package Macintosh Windows

There are a lot of resources available: http://www.logos.com/products/search?Platform=Internet - though some important ones are still missing, as you've discovered.

That said, I'm sure you could return the collection if you needed to, and get a refund.

Dennis Miller:
I am becoming very soured on this whole in the cloud technology and these net controlled/linked apps.

The problem is not the cloud at all, but rather publishers who are struggling to come to terms with the electronic era at all. It's entirely a permissions issue - will the publisher give permission for you to read the books you have purchase on multiple devices, or not? Sadly some publishers believe they will lose revenue in allowing you to do so, even though (in my view) that thinking is flawed. Nowadays I presume Logos insists that publishers allow you to use the resource on multiple devices, but when your collection was created, that presumably wasn't the case.

Dennis Miller:
Just give me something I can installed on my devices that works standalone and only requires network access if I want it for updates and such.

If you have a Logos 4 base package, you will be able to read any books that are authorised for mobile use without network access.

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Mark A | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 11 2010 6:07 AM

nice update!  ... but i was so hoping for Daily Prayer List integration

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Steve Augustine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 11 2010 7:57 AM

My custom reading plans are no longer showing up.  The iPhone app just shows the standard reading plan to read the Bible in one year.  The reading plans are still on my Logos 4 desktop.  The bummer is that the custom reading plans are the main reason I use the Logos software.  I read in the morning before i get out of bed.  I am very disappointed by this bug in the software.  Unfortunately, the other bugs I and others reported previously are still not fixed.  If Laridian or Olive Tree had custom reading plans for their mobile software, I would use those and remove Logos from my iPod Touch.

A very disappointed customer,

Steve

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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 11 2010 10:11 AM

Steve, do you see your books in the library, more than just the 60-some all users get? If not, check that you're signed in. You can also try signing out and signing in again. I don't usually recommend that unless there's a problem with the app recognizing that you're signed in.

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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 12 2010 9:10 AM

Any idea when they are going to fix the NASB MacArthur Study Bible?  Fortunately, I also have the NKJV version so I can still use it offline.

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Dennis Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 6:38 AM

Mark, thanks for the info, I did end up calling and getting a refund. On top of that I also found most of the books in that collection on Amazon for the kindle app for free or at most .99 cents. That's like a 90% savings.

Is there a quick way to see all of your offline resources without having to browse the entire library?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 8:56 AM

Dennis Miller:
Is there a quick way to see all of your offline resources without having to browse the entire library?

The only way is to disconnect your internet connection, by going into flight mode on an iPhone (or just switching WiFi off on the iPod).

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 10:32 AM

Dennis Miller:

Mark, thanks for the info, I did end up calling and getting a refund. On top of that I also found most of the books in that collection on Amazon for the kindle app for free or at most .99 cents. That's like a 90% savings.

Is there a quick way to see all of your offline resources without having to browse the entire library?

This is one of the problems, Logos for example sells a copywrited  version of Matthew Henry, something published over 200 years ago. What makes Hendrikson's edition better than the regular editions I can not say other than I assume spelling and punctuation are probably standardized. The Publisher is refusing to let them make this available in the cloud. 

Did Logos choose the copywrite version for ease of conversion to Logos or because it could charge more. I honestly do not know. Because Logos choose to implement their mobile app as a cloud device is the real reason we have fewer items. If it had implemented a lite version of reader that allowed us to sync what content we wanted on our iPhone the resources we own would have been readable, just like they are on Macintosh, we have paid for digital rights, in Logos format, not Logos windows format or logos mac format. This also is the reason why us owners of discontinued items are able to use items (admittedly Logos MUST build in compatibility  with older LLS and Libronix files for us to use them on Logos4 (which they have of course)). Now one can easily forgive Logos for publishers complications, but when push comes to shove it seems to be implementation that is at fault. And i do understand that iphones and iPads are not powerful enough to run a true Logos equal, but they are more than powerful enough to run a reader of our files and I wonder how many of us would be satisfied with that...

As noted above people are already choosing not to purchase Logos items for cheaper more flexible options. But I have not given up hope for a better iphone option, Logos has already made a major change. If I understand things right our phones do read the actual L4 files and download them to the phone off of the cloud, so it seems to me the main thing that keeps them from allowing us to sync our L4 files is design. Will we ever have this option I have no idea, and does the Logos iPhone engine have the capability of reading all Logos files or only current Logos4 files, this I do not know. 

The original design it was not really anything much more than a design interface for Biblia.com and perhaps it will always be based on it, but it was not what people wanted, the offline reading experience was not good and Logos  has rewritten it to render things better.  I know a true app not dependent on the cloud is a lot of work,  but they already have taken the first step and I do think in the end the ideal thing for Logos will be something of a hybrid, reading what we sync from our computers, augmented by cloud computing power. I still think for most people the ability to have a bible and second book open make some notes and hilite text is all we really expect and want from Logos iOS. We may never get this but I can still dream, if other Bible software companies are capable of it why not Logos.

-Dan

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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 10:59 AM

Dan Francis:
Because Logos choose to implement their mobile app as a cloud device is the real reason we have fewer items.

This is a misconception. Whether or not a resource is available on the iPhone is a licensing issue, not a technical issue of whether the data is on the device or comes from the cloud. There are rare instances where the licensing and technical issues are intertwined, but these are exceptions and mostly apply to the free resources available through the iPhone app and Biblia.com.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 2:58 PM

Dave Dunkin:

Dan Francis:
Because Logos choose to implement their mobile app as a cloud device is the real reason we have fewer items.

This is a misconception. Whether or not a resource is available on the iPhone is a licensing issue, not a technical issue of whether the data is on the device or comes from the cloud. There are rare instances where the licensing and technical issues are intertwined, but these are exceptions and mostly apply to the free resources available through the iPhone app and Biblia.com.

My apologies, I had just known with a different  companies APP everything was allowed to be synced to the phone including user created modules. I had wrongly assumed that the reason for incompatibilities with Logos'  app was through implementation. I still really hope  Logos may have this feature in the future.

-Dan

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 3:05 PM

It's worth mentioning that 1.5.1 is now out, and fixes some of the bugs that were described on this thread earlier: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/27281.aspx

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Scott S | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 13 2010 9:43 PM

Mark,

Thanks for the heads up on the 1.5.1 release.

Thanks also to Logos (Dave Dunkin??) for quickly addressing the issues.  I only checked the ESV so far, but its great to be rid of the "[]" adjacent to footnotes.

The ESV footnotes and references seem to be easier to open now on the iPod Touch with my largish fingers (ring size 12.5), was an improvement made?

Regards,

Scott

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