Sharing resources of LOGos 4 with Kindle

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Matthew Helfrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:16 AM

so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:18 AM

If the PDF reader is not to your taste...then you could convert the PDF to a native Ebook format using mobipocket creator....

that works too.

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R. Mansfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:20 AM

Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:30 AM

Matthew Helfrich:
so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?

That's what I read on another thread. I gave up after my initial attempt to send a PDF to Kindle.

I would only go down the PDF route if it is a resource will lots of non-standard characters for which you need the original fonts. For most purposes I find using biblia.com on the Kindle browser less hassle than exporting a whole book to the Kindle.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 20 2011 3:32 PM

Matthew Helfrich:

so it could display better if the page size is shrunk down to a 4" X 5" dimension...is that what your saying?

Yes. If you set up a Word Document template with a 4X5 or 4.5X5 page size, .02 margins all around, 12pt font Your PDF will look pretty good on a Kindle. to test it out set up a document with the above settings. Export from Logos to a new Word document. I find if you try to use this new document it will reset everything to 8.5X11. Then place a single space in the 4X5 doc. then copy and paste all the exported Logos text into the 4X5 doc.If you don't put a space in the document it will do what Word does best, reset everything to what it wants. Let me know if you have any questions.

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Jerry Bush | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 5:00 PM

Shameless bump...

Bob or someone at Logos: What is the chance we will ever see an "export to Kindle" or something like that in the future?

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 5:05 PM

R. Mansfield:

Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.

As best as I can tell, this only works if you have a real Kindle - not a Kindle app.  I use the Kindle app on both my PC Tablet and on my Andoid reader.  My wife has a real Kindle, but then it goes to her Kindle account rather than mine.

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Floyd

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Rob | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 5:17 PM

Seconded Jerry.  Until then, I continue to buy my books from Amazon...

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Matthew Helfrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 9:00 AM

I got my kindle last week and tried what was mentioned above. Here's what has been working for me...

1. Choose a book and "export" desired contents to a word document

2. In Word I ...

  • changed the page size to 3.5 x 4.5
  • set the margins to .06 on all sides
  • changed font to 12 calibri
  • deleted the footer
  • changed text to single space
  • removed spaces before and after paragraphs
  • and formmated any tables that pushed text outside of margins
  • Saved as .pdf
  • emailed as attachment to "username@kindle.com"

I also saved a MSWord version so I could export future books into it with less work. For the second export I only had to change font size, remove paragraph and line spacing, and remove footer. It is working well for me. feel free to contact me with any questions if this sounds interesting and you need some help.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 9:08 AM

Thanks matthew! I'll give it a shot

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R. Mansfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 9:12 AM

Floyd Johnson:

R. Mansfield:

Amazon will also convert a PDF for you for no charge. Just add the word "Convert" in your subject line when you email the PDF to your Kindle address.

As best as I can tell, this only works if you have a real Kindle - not a Kindle app.  I use the Kindle app on both my PC Tablet and on my Andoid reader.  My wife has a real Kindle, but then it goes to her Kindle account rather than mine.

Yes, this is true. The Kindle email address is one of the advantages of having a Kindle directly from Amazon. And I have both an iPad with the Kindle app plus a dedicated Kindle, which I greatly prefer for reading.  But if anything, it was reading on the Kindle app that pushed me over the edge for getting a Kindle. 

By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones. Amazon allows the same book on six different devices as a default (this differs occasionally if the publisher requests it). My wife and I do this and it's great for sharing a library together. We have two iPads and a Kindle all tied to the same Kindle account. This has been very handy, for instance, when doing a book study at church. In the old days with physical books, we used to have to take turns reading a book. Now we can read at the same time. It will also sync notes which is a nice feature. If we're both heavily adding notes to a particular book, we will add our initials to our notes. 

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 9:21 AM

Matthew Helfrich:
1. Choose a book and "export" desired contents to a word document

If you want to export the maximum amount in one sitting set the resource font to the smallest size, Press CTRL + P, select the Tabloid page size. When you export it to Word it will be exported with a normal font size. Doing this I'm able to export an entire Journal (e.g. Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society) with one export. In fact, I would still have 40 more pages to play with. :-)

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 2:18 PM

R. Mansfield:
By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones.

Would be nice - if we did not already have separate libraries.  Initially we built individual libraries using the many free books available for the Kindle - but since we each wanted separate books, we built different libraries.  She stuck with the Kindle, but I wanted something more flexible.  My Tablet PC allowed me to build libraries for the Kindle, the Nook, the Google reader, etc.  When it was time to purchase a reader for myself, I chose an Android based reader that could handle these different formats.

So, though the idea may be good for new users, for my wife and I it is not a workable solution.

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Floyd

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R. Mansfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 6:53 AM

Floyd Johnson:

R. Mansfield:
By the way, if I may offer a suggestion/tip, I would encourage you and your wife to share accounts rather than having separate ones.

Would be nice - if we did not already have separate libraries.  Initially we built individual libraries using the many free books available for the Kindle - but since we each wanted separate books, we built different libraries.  She stuck with the Kindle, but I wanted something more flexible.  My Tablet PC allowed me to build libraries for the Kindle, the Nook, the Google reader, etc.  When it was time to purchase a reader for myself, I chose an Android based reader that could handle these different formats.

So, though the idea may be good for new users, for my wife and I it is not a workable solution.

Yes, I understand. For us, I'm glad we caught it in time. I'd bought a handful of Kindle books already, which I had on my Mac, before I got the iPad. We both got iPads at the same time last year, and initially we had separate Kindle libraries. Fortunately, she'd only purchased one book for herself when I realized there was really no reason for us not to share the same library. For what it's worth, we did re-purchase the only book she'd bought on her own because it was a reference book she'd continue to want access to. And then we combined our libraries. We also have a few B&N nook books and have those libraries shared on our iPads as well. 

Now my parents are also on our Kindle account. I gave them my Amazon access and occasionally, I'll get an email alerting me that a new ebook has just been purchased. They have an iPad. I simply forward the email to them and they mail me a check. It's a very nice arrangement, and we have the advantage of sharing our books together, all with Amazon's blessing. As people discover ebooks such as those for the Kindle or nook, I encourage them to share their libraries with other family members whenever it's possible.

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Jerry Bush | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 7:06 AM

Using the export feature is fine, except that we are limited to 100 pages. That does not cover most books.

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Gregg Farah | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 8:02 AM

Based on the number of replies, any chance someone could provide a summary of this discussion for someone (like me) just joining the conversation?

specifically, is it better to go biblias.com or pdf. And then based on the response, what are next steps?

Thank you,

Gregg

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 8:57 AM

Gregg Farah:

Based on the number of replies, any chance someone could provide a summary of this discussion for someone (like me) just joining the conversation?

I'm afraid the conclusion is that opinions differ. There are three main options, each of which has its advocates.

1. Biblia.com, my preferred option. If you have 3G on your Kindle (or just read when on wifi) then this is the no-fuss option. There is no preparation to do. You need to select the mobile version of biblia.com, which does have limited functionality. You get one section of the book on each page. Footnotes are there at the bottom of the section but do not pop up as they do on standard version of biblia.com. Most of your library is available, but those that are not usable on the iPad are also not available on biblia.com.

2. Export the document to Word, using the Print/Export function (limited to 100 pages at a time). Then send the document to your @free.kindle.com email address. It will be converted into the Kindle book format. You may lose formatting of tables etc and may have problems with unusual glyphs (tranliterations etc.). You don't have any hyperlinks or footnotes.

3. Do 2, then save as a PDF and send that to your Kindle. In Word you need to set the page size to about the size of the Kindle screen and choose a comfortable font size, perhaps 12 pt. This may retain the table formatting, pictures and you can choose the fonts.

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David Buckham | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 8:59 AM

For what it's worth...I bought my Kindle yesterday. Loving it. I will try to export a Logos book or 2 later but for now I learned something really odd about my Amazon account. My wife and I have 1 account that has two passwords. If I sign in with her password and buy a book it does not show up on my kindle...even though it is the same account! Crazy. 

Amazon did say they can fix it, but for now, since I alone have a Kindle, it's not a big deal...just confusing.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 26 2011 9:30 AM

David Buckham:
I will try to export a Logos book or 2 later but for now I learned something really odd about my Amazon account. My wife and I have 1 account that has two passwords.

I have a similar situation with my account.  Although it's more like there are two separate accounts with the same email address.  Weird that they would use the password to identify an account.

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Gregg Farah | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 19 2011 8:47 PM

Matthew,

You describe the process using WORD. Do you have PAGES? Anything different if you use that?

thanks,

Gregg

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