Can one of my Logos brothers or sisters recommend a product to answer the question: What happens to believers when they die?"

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Dec 31 2010 3:27 PM

Hi,

I had someone ask me that question and I gave them the 25 cent answer...the one sentence answer but clearly, there is a LOT going on with what happens when a person, believer or unbeliever, dies.....

I looked in my library, and found lots of info...Josh McDowell has a great section on all of this stuff in his apologetic handbook...but a question remains...

Can you recommend a resource that really lays all this stuff out? A "dummy's guide" of sorts..?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 4:19 PM

I just picked up a book whose focus is exactly this, in the Christmas "Master Collection":

If I Should Die before I Wake: What's Beyond This Life? (it's part of the Christian Focus Theological Studies Collection)

I haven't read it yet, of course, since I just got it. But it appears to cover all the bases. It has an appendix discussing the pros and cons of annihilationism, respectfully treating it as a very difficult question that perhaps cannot be resolved one way or the other, but giving strong arguments both ways. I did skim through that section, and based on how it is treated I am pretty sure the rest of the book will be worth reading.

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Mathew Voth | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 4:21 PM

I would Recommend N.T Wright's Suprised by Hope. Excellent treatment of the topic!

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 4:29 PM

Edwin Lutzer's book "One minute after you die" is great for evangelistic purposes. It presents the Bible teaching on what happens after death in a very readable form. Unfortunately, you'll have to purchase the Erwin Lutzer collection if you want it in Logos. The collection was a Facebook special in December, but it seems to have been replaced by the Christmas specials now. I'm not sure if the codes are still valid.

"Upon a life I did not live, Upon a death I did not die, Another's life, another's death, I stake my whole eternity"

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 6:04 PM

Mathew Voth:

I would Recommend N.T Wright's Suprised by Hope. Excellent treatment of the topic!

Hmmm... I think he's only asking about life after death, not life after life after death Wink

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 6:11 PM

Grudem's Systematic Theology has a couple of chapters which cover this

    Chapter 41

    Death and the Intermediate State


    What is the purpose of death in the Christian life? What happens to our bodies and souls when we die?

    Chapter 42

    Glorification (Receiving a Resurrection Body)


    When will we receive resurrection bodies? What will they be like?

 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 6:24 PM

For an alternative view try this resource Robert, if you have it: logosres:sdacom12;ref=Page.p_324;off=3323

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 6:26 PM

[[Page 324 >> logosres:sdacom12;ref=Page.p_324;off=3323]] | Handbook of Seventh-Day Adventist Theology

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 8:02 PM

Thanks for the quick replies everyone!

Rosie, I bought that collection...it was cheap and the resource looked like it would help me....

Simon: the book by Lutzer was only 12:99! I got it also...thanks for the tip

Steve...the link you posted for grudem was very helpful, thanks!

Lynden...I'm not sure what to do with your link....it's not active...

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 8:37 PM

Alas it's not in Logos but the best book I've come across is Heaven by Randy Alcorn. 

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 9:32 PM

Chris...

I  also thought that Alcorns book was a good one.

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John Fugh, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 31 2010 10:33 PM

Robert,  My dad asked the same question on his death bed last February - the best I could come up with was not a resource, but Jesus' words -- Lk 23.43 - "Today, you will be with me in paradise."  He sat back in his bed and smiled.  A wonderful and sacred moment.  I look forward to reading these other fine suggestions.

 

Blessings-

John

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 1 2011 4:17 AM

Robert Pavich:

Lynden...I'm not sure what to do with your link....it's not active...

Sorry, having trouble getting the link to work. http://www.logos.com/product/3442/seventh-day-adventist-bible-commentary-expanded-edition It is much cheaper at the local Adventist Book Store. Logos proably needs to update the price. Contact me for the article, and other material if you like, I can mail it to you. My first name @coralwave.com

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 1 2011 5:02 AM

John Fugh, Jr.:

Robert,  My dad asked the same question on his death bed last February - the best I could come up with was not a resource, but Jesus' words -- Lk 23.43 - "Today, you will be with me in paradise."  He sat back in his bed and smiled.  A wonderful and sacred moment.  I look forward to reading these other fine suggestions.

 

Blessings-

John

John,

that is so great to hear...I'm so happy for you...not much else is important when considered in the light of those words...

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 2 2011 4:22 AM

Robert Pavich:
not much else is important when considered in the light of those words...

Don't forget Philippians 1:21-24; 2 Corinthians 5:8

(Looked those up with the help of L4 Mac Cool)

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 2 2011 4:44 AM

Jack...you couldn't even make them Logos links so i could just click them???

Sheesh....yer makin' me work!

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 2 2011 11:54 AM

Robert Pavich:
Jack...you couldn't even make them Logos links so i could just click them???

I told you I found them in L4 Mac. I could not contaminate my installation by furnishing a link that would possibly be used on a Windows machine. Wink

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 2 2011 11:55 AM

lol...thank you for the chuckle...very good. Stick out tongue

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