Chronological Bible
I think it would be a very useful add-in or built-in feature that would take any Bible resource and display it in chronological order.
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Hi Kitty
Can you be a bit more specific?
Possible examples of this could be:
- Which Biblical books refer to which periods in history?
- Which kings of Israel reigned during which prophet's ministry?
Just trying to get an idea of the sort of thing you are looking for.
Are you familiar with the Timeline resources in Logos (not in Home or Original Languages packages)?
Graham
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Kitty Hansberry said:
I think it would be a very useful add-in or built-in feature that would take any Bible resource and display it in chronological order.
I think it would be great to see the "The So That's Why! Bible" versified. It is the closest thing I have seen to a chronological Bible.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Graham Criddle said:
Can you be a bit more specific?
Possible examples of this could be:
- Which Biblical books refer to which periods in history?
- Which kings of Israel reigned during which prophet's ministry?
Just trying to get an idea of the sort of thing you are looking for.
Just the Bibles themselves. For example, Kings and Chronicles or the Gospels.
Sometimes in reading or in studying the Bible, it is helpful to encounter the verses in chronological order. I try to read the Bible every year and I pick something different each time (choronological, archiological, different translation, different study notes, etc.). Can you imagine trying to do that with a timeline and a Bible and make sure you read all the Bible?
There are chronological Bibles out there. The work of putting things in order has been done more than once (and like translations, they are not all alike). I would like to see that available in Logos.
It should take advantage of the technology by incorporating a reordering list for the Bible. Then it can be applied to whatever translation you want. You certainly would not want to produce a Strongs like concordance by hand for each translation and make it a resource. Logos generates these along with search tools and other tools for navigating the Bible. They work across all Bibles. This would be no different. Choose a list and the Bible is in that order. You could find other uses for such lists. You might make a topical Bible or a geographical Bible or ...
In each case you have the whole Bible and you can just sit down and read through it, seeing relationships between verses that you might have otherwise missed or that would have taken a lot more effort to discover.
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Dewayne Davis said:
I think it would be great to see the "The So That's Why! Bible" versified. It is the closest thing I have seen to a chronological Bible.
I think you can find chronological Bibles online at places like christianbooks.com and probably a lot of other places. I think there is a need to put the Bible in various orders to assist in seeing the relationships between the verses. There are many kinds of works separate and apart from the Bible to shed light on the relationships between Bible verses. How about using the Bible as the primary resource instead by just reordering the text of the Bible. Granted, you loose other connections like chapter and book context which are important but they can be found in the standard Bible ordering. Without cross-referencing and without commentary that you may or may not agree with, you get the Bible in your favorite translation. But what was scattered around the Bible before is now organized to show particular kinds of relationships. Think of a Thompson chain link Bible without the links, just pulling the verses in those links together and you get the idea. I think it is a powerful idea. I think if Logos did it, people would create ordering lists for the Bible to show what is important. Probably needs pericopes to go with the new ordering to be of the most use.
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Wiki page has custom chronological reading plans => http://wiki.logos.com/Reading_Plans - can copy passage list(s) to create custom plan(s) - clicking Mark Read causes jump to next verse in plan.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Wiki page has custom chronological reading plans => http://wiki.logos.com/Reading_Plans - can copy passage list(s) to create custom plan(s) - clicking Mark Read causes jump to next verse in plan.
Keep Smiling
Oh my! Oh my! Wow! Thank you.
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Kitty Hansberry said:Dewayne Davis said:
I think it would be great to see the "The So That's Why! Bible" versified. It is the closest thing I have seen to a chronological Bible.
I think you can find chronological Bibles online at places like christianbooks.com and probably a lot of other places. I think there is a need to put the Bible in various orders to assist in seeing the relationships between the verses. There are many kinds of works separate and apart from the Bible to shed light on the relationships between Bible verses. How about using the Bible as the primary resource instead by just reordering the text of the Bible. Granted, you loose other connections like chapter and book context which are important but they can be found in the standard Bible ordering. Without cross-referencing and without commentary that you may or may not agree with, you get the Bible in your favorite translation. But what was scattered around the Bible before is now organized to show particular kinds of relationships. Think of a Thompson chain link Bible without the links, just pulling the verses in those links together and you get the idea. I think it is a powerful idea. I think if Logos did it, people would create ordering lists for the Bible to show what is important. Probably needs pericopes to go with the new ordering to be of the most use.
The book to which I am referring seems to do everything you mentioned, and is available as a Logos resource. The only problem is that it doesn't have verse headers. If it was versified and tagged, it could be linked to any Bible and the Bible would follow it in order.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
Kitty Hansberry said:
I think it would be a very useful add-in or built-in feature that would take any Bible resource and display it in chronological order.
In whose chronological order? The chronology of the bible is by no means fixed. If you were to attempt to order it according to one schema, you would thereby exclude another. The order would vary from that of the fundamentalist (though even there there can be disagreement) to that of the classical higher critical view to that of Gmirkin who would place the Pentateuch quite late.
george
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George Somsel said:
In whose chronological order?
I took this request to mean the chronology of the salvation story not the chronology of of the writing of the books. This would have far fewer discrepancies and could be a useful function. I agree that something based on the chronology of the finished books would be very messy - perhaps even a fun messy since I have no vested interest.[6]
This could easily be another Bible Harmony resource - no big deal to Logos if someone has a good resource that covers the deuterocanonical books and is outside copyright.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
I took this request to mean the chronology of the salvation story not the chronology of of the writing of the books.
Until you said this, I assumed that was what was being discussed.
“... every day in which I do not
penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture
is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the
firm ground of the Word of God.”0 -
I’d like to see something like this as well. But I actually might be more satisfied with one of the commercial chronological bibles made as a Logos-compatible book as I would like things to be synoptic (i.e., where same content is covered multiple places it is merged into one storyline…such as the 4 gospels). I can see potential problems with the approach of tagging verses (i.e., many scholars would disagree as to the exact date of some events, and some books are not really historical/chronological in nature…e.g., Psalms or Proverbs). However, a chronological reading plan is somewhat annoying by comparison to a true chronological ordering as it can have you jumping between many passages in a day’s reading and there is no “synoptic” approach and you would end up reading the same story multiple times within a day or two in the case of gospel accounts or other passages that occur multiple places in the Bible.
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I saw the references to this thread when I started to write something similar:
I would like to see a chronological bible in Logos.
The
Narrated Bible in Chronological Order by F. Legard Smith, published by
Harvest House, seems to be good, although there are claims that some
verses are missing.For those who have been discussing what is meant by chronology, Smith's work seems to be a combination of taking the "best" of parallel texts, put them in the order in which his sources suggest the events occurred, and putting in the rest of the bible in the order in which it was presumed to be writing. This results in the OT History being recorded in the order in which it happened, with items like the Psalms broken up, and inserted in the text where they were presumably written in concurrence with the events which prompted the writing. In the new testament, the gospels are coordinated in a harmony, with the epistles slotted into the narrative of the book of Acts in the order in which someone thinks they were written.
Ideally this would be like some of the other
study tools - the "book" will use the license owners preferred
translation, rather than the translation originally used by the author
of a work.I see this as a study tool, not a study bible, nor a replacement for a standard ordered bible.
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I think LaGard Smith's is the best out there, add my vote to yours
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