Syntactical searching 'Opentext' in Logos 4

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no such person | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:01 AM

HELP!

I need help with entering morphological tagging within Logos 4's  morpho query field.  I bought program new w/o any previous libronix training. I bought the Video disc for Syntactic searches in Logos 3, NO Logos 4 Syntactical search video or manual available. Morris manual does not cover Synt searches, per Logos customer serv/sales.   I learned basic concepts on how to run searches yet the Logos 4 interphase is totally different. Libronix  morphological interphase had a simple check box query to enter morph tags. Logos 4 has a open field for keying in YET when typical morph tags are entered the program does not recognize them  a NNSM tag within a syntactical constructed search yields  Nom, Acc, Gen Dat results.  How worthless is that? 

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:08 AM

Hello Lee and welcome to the forums.

In L4, morph data is always preceded by a @ character.

For example, searching for morph terms in the syntax search, you'd just put a @ in the box and then choose all of the applicable terms that apply from the pop up dialogue box...

You can (if you know what you are looking for) also just type the terms in...i.e. @NNSM (noun nominative singular masculine....

 

If you have any more problems, we fellow L4 users are glad to help.

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:12 AM

Also, there are some VERY good videos at the following link....including one for searching.

 

http://www.4-14.org.uk/logos/tutorial-videos

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:23 AM

You can find some basic help for Logos 4 syntax searching on the Logos wiki:http://wiki.logos.com/Setting_up_a_Syntax_Search and http://wiki.logos.com/A_Strategy_for_Syntax_Search

There are some videos linked to on the Setting up a Syntax Search page, they may be helpful, the Strategy page also links to some threads on this topic.

Be certain to also check out

http://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP
http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help

For general searching info that isn't directly related to syntax searches.

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no such person | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 1:00 PM

Robert,

MUCHO Graseeoso! for exactly the help I needed. I used the correct search tag and it immediately narrowed the results correctly. Thanks also to Kevin Becker for providing some great links for designing searches correctly. I'm afraid you won't get rid of me that easy though. I hope my future queries can offer actually stimulating troubleshooting challenges for you. 

 Heres my last dumb question. I've tried to specify an anarthrous PN  by clicking on 'word - modifier -specifier - is not part'. When I do this I get Zero results - I delete this designator and I get both articulized and anarthrous PNs.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks again!

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 1:08 PM

It's actually a lot easier to diagnose syntax searches if you take a screen capture of your search query, save the image, and then upload that with a post.

http://wiki.logos.com/Screenshot

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 2:16 PM

Here's a syntax search that seems to get what's needed, although I haven't kicked the tires on it to really make certain that it is exactly what you want

 

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Pastor Michael Huffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 22 2011 8:15 AM

Baker Lee, Jr.:
Morris manual does not cover Synt searches, per Logos customer serv/sales.

 

John Fallahee covers syntax searching in his training videos. Very reasonably priced. www.learnlogos.com

Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M

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