Hebrew Word Order for the Interlinear Bible in Logos 4

David,

I'm not certain that I understand what you are asking, what section of the passage guide are you using to display Bible text? I can't think of one off the top of my head. The Word-By-Word Section of the Exegetical guide might be useful to you and you can create a custom Passage guide with that section in it.

It seems to me that if you want to see a Hebrew interlinear you should just open up a Hebrew interlinear in another pane.

David,

It's not clear from your post whether you understand the difference between Reverse Interlinears and ordinary interlinears. So forgive me if you know all this already. A reverse interlinear maintains the English word order, whilst an ordinary interlinear retains the Greek/Hebrew word order.

Reverse Interlinears are accessed as part of the 'standard' English translation, but ordinary interlinears are separate resources. If you go into your library and enter type:bible title:interlinear, you should find all your ordinary interlinears. The only OT English interlinear available in Logos is The Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible. It's available in Original Languages, and Gold or above.

Ordinary interlinears don't have the interlinear ribbon at the bottom, but they do have all the inline options.

Mark

David N. said:

I don't have MS Office on my "new" computer yet, so I can't paste in an example from WORD here in this post, but the Hebrew Bible says:  "B'resheet bara Elohim et a shamayim v'et ha-aretz." (Right to Left) and the Interlinear says:  "B' -  Resheet - Elohim - Bara - Et - Ha - Shamayim - V' - Et - Ha' -  Aretz (Left to Right) - which is not the correct Hebrew phrasing - the word order of the Hebrew is set by the English meaning, rather than displaying the English according to the Hebrew phrasing.

The most effective way to show what you are doing is to take a screenshot with a program like Jing and then upload the picture to the forum. See: http://wiki.logos.com/screenshot for other suggestions for taking a screenshot..

" rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus said:

Wonder if George would agree - interlinear lexical value lacks range of possible meanings from original language words - essentially is a simple translation (likely valid, but leaves out other valid translations and nuances - e.g. intensity of action expressed by verb).

Keep Smiling

Yes, I would sort of agree with that.  The big problem with interlinears is that when you rely on them to understand something like מְרַחֶפֶת in Gen 1.2 you see a one-word gloss for the term and associate that with the word.  What have you learned ?  NOTHING !  You might as well have stuck with the English.  It's going to be the word chosen in whatever translation you happen to pick.  It's pretending that you know the language.  Let's all play "Let's pretend."  Nothing is gained except perhaps that you have possibly learned the form of the letters in the original language.  Phoney, phoney, phoney.

David N. said:

The reason for my inquiry is that I can do exactly what I'd like to do as stated above (change the word order in the displayed Interlinear Bible) using a fabulous program called "PC Study Bible" by Biblesoft and I was trying to duplicate this functionality in Logos 4.  You can simply check or uncheck a setting to have the English display in the desired orientation.

Hi David,

As I think is clear now, in Logos there isn't a setting that changes the word order. I can see the value of a little setting, and it would be nice if Logos included this in the future, but for the time being, in Logos you need to switch between two different resources.

It's also worth mentioning that the reverse interlinears do display the Hebrew word order, even though they won't re-arrange the words into that order. If you look either in the ribbon, or in the inline interlinear display you'll notice a small number on each word on the Manuscript line. That number represents the Hebrew word order for that verse.

Mark