What is your first choice in Patristics? Please help

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Mar 12 2011 9:53 PM

St. Valdimir's Press has asked me which volumes of the Popular Patristics series would be most popular in Logos - i.e. what volumes are the best place to start? Which of the following do you think would generate the most interest?

St Gregory the Great - Book of Pastoral Rule, The
Mark the Monk - Counsels on the Spiritual Life
St John Chrysostom - Cult of the Saints, The  
St Symeon the New Theologian - Divine Eros Hymns of St Symeon the New Theologian
St Gregory of Nazianzus - Festal Orations
John A. McGuckin - Harp of Glory: An African Akathist
Barsanuphius and John - Letters from the Desert
St Isaac of Nineveh - On Ascetical Life
St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Christ
St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Man
St John Chrysostom - On Marriage and Family Life
Melito of Sardis - On Pascha
St Basil the Great - On Social Justice
Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments
St Maximus the Confessor - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ
St Germanus of Constantinople - On the Divine Liturgy
Brian E. Daley, ed. - On the Dormition of Mary
St Theodore the Studite - On the Holy Icons  
St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition
St Athanasius – On the Incarnation
Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen– On the Lord's Prayer
Jacob of Serug – On the Mother of God
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. I
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. II
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. III
St John Chrysostom – On the Priesthood
St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection
Saint Cyril of Alexandria. – On the Unity of Christ
Saint John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty
St John of Damascus – Three Treatises on the Divine Images
St. Cyprian - On the Church
Mary Cunningham, trans. - Wider than Heaven
Pambo, Avagrius, Macarius of Egypt, Macarius of Alexandria - Coptic text relating to the Lausiac History of Palladius
Saint Macarius, the spiritbearer : coptic texts relating to Saint Macarius the Great
Basilius Magnus Caesariensis - On the Holy Spirit
Alistair Stewart-Sykes, trans - On the two ways : life or death, light or darkness : foundational texts in the tradition
St. John Chrysostom - Six Books on the Priesthood
St. Ephrem - Hymns on Paradise

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William | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 12 2011 11:33 PM

MJ. Smith:
St. Cyprian - On the Church
St Basil the Great - On Social Justice
Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments
St Maximus the Confessor - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ
St Germanus of Constantinople - On the Divine Liturgy
Brian E. Daley, ed. - On the Dormition of Mary
St Theodore the Studite - On the Holy Icons  
St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition
Melito of Sardis - On Pascha
St John Chrysostom - Cult of the Saints, The  

I would like these

 

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James Matichuk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 12:42 AM

Here is my list:

 

MJ. Smith:
St Gregory the Great - Book of Pastoral Rule, The

St Gregory of Nazianzus - Festal Orations

St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Christ
St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Man
St John Chrysostom - On Marriage and Family Life
Melito of Sardis - On Pascha
St Basil the Great - On Social Justice
Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments
St Maximus the Confessor - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ

St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition
St Athanasius – On the Incarnation
Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen– On the Lord's Prayer

St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. I
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. II
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. III
St John Chrysostom – On the Priesthood
St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection
Saint Cyril of Alexandria. – On the Unity of Christ
Saint John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty
St John of Damascus – Three Treatises on the Divine Images
St. Cyprian - On the Church

 

Perhaps not too helpful. I culled down the list to include, the Popular Patristics I have, have read, or have been interested in reading. Realistically, I want the whole series because the popular patristic series is one of the few, affordable patristic series.

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 3:22 AM

I'd like the whole series too.

If had to make a first choice it would be for a Cappadocian Fathers collection.

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James W Bennett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 5:56 AM

The whole series is needed.

That being said, you asked for which ones would be the best place to start. Probably Cyprian and Melito of Sardis would seem less foreign to Westerners just getting into patristics. But then Athanasius and the Cappadocians are essential foundations for Christianity.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 6:07 AM

Damian McGrath:

I'd like the whole series too.

If had to make a first choice it would be for a Cappadocian Fathers collection.

I'd like the whole series also.

           If I needed to settle for a diminished list, I would go with William in his post!

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Elliot Ritzema | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 8:55 AM

I think there could be a lot of interest in the Cappadocians, Chrysostom, Athanasius and Gregory the Great.  In addition to the ones on the above list, Basil the Great - On the Holy Spirit and Irenaeus - On the Apostolic Preaching would be good.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 10:06 AM

John Chrysostom and Athanasius would be the priorities for me, but if the value was good I'd buy the whole set.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 12:01 PM

MJ. Smith:

St. Valdimir's Press has asked me which volumes of the Popular Patristics series would be most popular in Logos - i.e. what volumes are the best place to start? Which of the following do you think would generate the most interest?

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Are these in Greek, English, or both?

I belatedly note that Tertullian is included.  Should I add Latin?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 1:05 PM

George Somsel:

Are these in Greek, English, or both?

I belatedly note that Tertullian is included.  Should I add Latin?

The Popular Patristics are all English translations, designed - as the title indicates - for general readership, not academic study. They tend to have reasonably long introductions added too.

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 1:18 PM

I tried to narrow it down to five, but ended up with these six:

Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection
St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments
St Athanasius – On the Incarnation
Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen– On the Lord's Prayer
Saint John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 1:25 PM

Mike S.:

I tried to narrow it down to five, but ended up with these six:

Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection
St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments
St Athanasius – On the Incarnation
Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen– On the Lord's Prayer
Saint John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty

That's a good selection.

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 2:07 PM

I too would LOVE to see them all and would BUY a set of them all!

That said, these are the top half ones I want:

St Gregory the Great - Book of Pastoral Rule, The

St Gregory of Nazianzus - Festal Orations

St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Christ

St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Man

St John Chrysostom - Cult of the Saints, The 

St John Chrysostom - On Marriage and Family Life

St. John Chrysostom - Six Books on the Priesthood

St John Chrysostom – On the Priesthood

Saint John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty

St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection

St. Cyprian - On the Church

St John of Damascus – Three Treatises on the Divine Images

Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen– On the Lord's Prayer

St Athanasius – On the Incarnation

St Basil the Great - On Social Justice

St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition

Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition

St Cyril of Jerusalem  - On the Christian Sacraments

St. Ephrem - Hymns on Paradise

Brian E. Daley, ed. - On the Dormition of Mary

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 13 2011 2:26 PM

Mark Barnes:

George Somsel:

Are these in Greek, English, or both?

I belatedly note that Tertullian is included.  Should I add Latin?

The Popular Patristics are all English translations, designed - as the title indicates - for general readership, not academic study. They tend to have reasonably long introductions added too.

I already have these in the ANE and NPNF series.  I doubt that a different translation would improve matters that much.  What I need is the texts in the original languages.  I have asked for Migne, but it is languishing in pre-pub. 

Eeny, Migney, miney, moe --
That's the one I want to go.
For that priv'ledge I will pay
Giving my first-born away.

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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 14 2011 2:27 AM

George Somsel:

For that priv'ledge I will pay

Giving my first-born away.

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George Somsel:

I already have these in the ANE and NPNF series.

Do you also have Jacob of Serug in your library (to name just one author whose writings were not selected for NPNF)? 

George Somsel:

What I need is the texts in the original languages.  I have asked for Migne, but it is languishing in pre-pub. 

Yes

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 14 2011 4:40 PM

MJ. Smith:
what volumes are the best place to start?

I'd say priority A should be to get all those volumes that can't be found in the Early Church Fathers, like St Symeon the New Theologian, St Isaac of Nineveh and Melito of Sardis, to name just a few that I can't seem to find. 

Priority B would be if there is anything particularly badly translated in ECF (I wouldn't know, but I'm sure there are those who do).

After that we can go with favourites. 

But I too want them all, if I can afford them. 

 

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