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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jun 10 2011 4:27 PM


  • Popup footnotes
  • Popup reference previews
  • Jump links
  • Tapping the edge of the page goes back or forward


  • Downloaded and downloading badges in library view
  • Better Greek and Hebrew text rendering
  • Better performance displaying streaming books with images
  • Better performance loading books
  • Table of contents groups are now supported (e.g. aardvark-aligator in a dictionary)
  • Reader controls are easier to hit
  • Updated icons


  • Support for Android 2.1
  • Automatic updater now only downloads an update once
  • Miscellaneous crashes

Known Issues

  • Greek text displays poorly on Android 2.2
  • Popups do not display Greek and Hebrew correctly
  • Right-to-left text does not display correctly
  • Poor network connection may cause a crash or show a “Navigation Failed” or “Resource display could not be loaded”
  • Network connections from behind a login page are not supported (e.g. a hotel or other hotspot that requires login)
  • Opening and navigating in a book cannot be cancelled
  • The app will crash if there is no SD card
  • The verse picker does not display correctly on tablets
  • Links inside footnotes are not clickable
  • Links to other books fail on Android 2.3+
  • Downloading media resources is not supported


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TWFCC | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 8:06 PM

Does the beta 1 version not come with the passage guide and the other main menu options and tools?  All I have is web access to my library.


Please advise.



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Brenda Langley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 9:06 PM

Received Beta 1 today.

Installed on Incredible, then Orig Droid, Droid X, and Samsung Charge with no issues.

Picks up purchased library with no issues.

Rotation while reading text, no problems.

Navigating by verse selection, no problems

WIll really start to wring it out tomorrow.

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Brenda Langley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 9:13 PM


Touch the bottom of the screen and you will see a search bar and the navigation selection dialog.  Using this you can search by verse, or contents.



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David Buckham | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 9:22 PM

Got the app earlier today and installed it. Seems to run fine. One crash. Nothing major. But I had to reboot my phone (rooted and running most recent stable Cyanogenmod 7 on a Droid Incredible) and now I have a continual boot loop. :D Gotta love it!

Not in panic mode yet.

all about Christ,

David Buckham



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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 12:19 AM

First off, thanks for all your hard work.  I’m really excited to be trying the beta.  I hope this information will be useful and am happy to provide any additional details upon request.

Specs: HTC Nexus One (AT&T version), Gingerbread 2.3.4, non-rooted, using Vodacom Tanzania network


· Issue: I don’t have access to my whole library including resources like the NIV Bible and HALOT.

· Issue: Not all resources are available for download/offline use like the GNT.  Although I’m probably in the minority here, my network connectivity isn’t always good since I’m in Tanzania so offline content is important to me.

· Issue: Hebrew text appears to be scrunched in the BHS, not just in popups.

· Question: From the Logos site I remember the Android page saying the Android app would be like the Iphone app and contain the same features.  I may just not know how to use the Android app, but I couldn’t find many features like reading plans, text comparison, passage guide, etc.  Will these features be added later on?

· Suggestion: Many Android apps with long lists have a thumb button that appears on the right hand side when you begin to scroll down (like the music app).  This would be very useful for the library page since some libraries can be very long.




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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 2:03 AM

It would also be useful to be able to filter the library by online and offline resources.

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TWFCC | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 10:09 AM

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the tip. It works great.  My next question is this: is the 'swipe up' feature enabled for the Droid X? I just want to make sure that I have installed the application completely.  I am looking for the menu that contains the 'Passage Guide', 'Text Comparison', 'Search for Citations', 'Add to Favorites', 'Share' options (as in the iPhone video).

If this beta version does not have that functionality yet, I just wanted to know. Thanks.

Phone Type: Droid X

Other than that, all else is looking good so far.  I'm very excited about dumping my other bible apps.  Thanks again Logos!


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Paul Dirks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 12:04 PM

Samsung Nexus S. Latest version of Gingerbread

I've got the beta installed now and will be putting it through it's paces over the next few days. Started by downloading a few books for offline reading. Will post more later. Thanks Logos!

Paul Dirks

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 12:08 PM

Specs: HTC Nexus One (AT&T version), Gingerbread 2.3.4, non-rooted, using Vodacom Tanzania network

Oh I found something.  Whenever I try to navigate to Philemon I get a force close.  It I have reproduced it for several verses in Philemon and with two separate Bibles.  I can navigate to it if I am flipping pages from the previous book, but when navigating from book, chapter, and verse it force closes every time.  Otherwise I'm enjoying myself and it's great to have all this original language power in my pocket.

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Brenda Langley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 12:38 PM

Hi Mel:

I do not have a personal Droid X, ( I am using a HTC Incredible running Android 2.2.)  I was able to install & uninstall Logos on several phones at a Verizon store where a friend of mine works, but did not check out the swipe up functionality.  Remember that the phone would have to use the default Android keyboard, (Incredible uses the HTC Sense kbd.)  I would be surprised if it does not work as I believe that this is native Android functionality starting with version 2.2

Maybe one of the Android developers could better answer this, or I will try it the next time I am in the Verizon store.

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 7:22 PM

I have a droid and a galaxy tab. I downloaded the nkjv on the tablet but it will not allow me to down load it on my phone. Any reason why?

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Pete Holzmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 8:04 PM

MrPete here, Evo Shift 4G, droid 2.2, 16GB SD

Installation went well.

I can confirm the following known issues:

  • Links inside footnotes are not clickable
  • Opening and navigating in a book cannot be cancelled. Beta Testers Take Note: this means any hiccup involving book opening or navigation means the app will hang. You must reboot or kill the app from an app manager to continue testing.

Issues for first-time installation (these are not repeatable after the app has been exited the first time, AFAIK):

  • PH-B01 First Time Bypass Login. If I click on the "Open" button made available immediately after successful installation, the app directly jumps into the ASV title page... bypassing the opening screen, and the login/config prompt. And there are no menus for adjusting your login id... so initially I thought the beta was only for a small number of public domain books! Exit the app and re-enter to see the login/config screen.
  • PH-B02 First Time (or Guest?) KJV will not open. During the same first-time "open" with no login configured, I downloaded the KJV (not Authorized Version - KJV1900.) and could not get it to display. This was not a network issue; the message was "Could not create a resource display."
  • PH-B03 Library display unusably slow for first hour. For the first hour or so of operation, the Library list would hardly scroll, up or down. "CatLog" (console logger) showed the app was downloading and unzipping many jpg files and other user interface elements. (I'm on a 1.5mbit DSL here, the fastest available in my area.)

Significant usability defects:

  • PH-B04 Back exits, re-entry slow. It is too easy to completely exit the app (just press "Back")... and slow to re-enter.
  • PH-B05 Slow UI leads to user errors. Every page turn gives a delay; many other aspects involve delay. Plus there is no way to cancel a book change or navigation element (a known issue). The result: users easily press "back" one time too many. And due to bug PH-B04, you end up leaving the app. Great care is needed right now to avoid this.
  • PH-B06 No way to cancel/restart resource downloading. I have successfully downloaded several resources. However, some have never completed. There is no way to "poke" at an incomplete download, no way to cancel and restart.

Other issues seen:

  • PH-C01 Crash during download of ASV resource file. (once only, not yet repeated.)
  • PH-C02 Crash during login (once only, not yet repeated.)


  • PH-S01 Support other reading modes (night, contrast). Would help to have "night mode" reading (white on black) and Very High Contrast reading (bold text everywhere) for sight-impaired readers
  • PH-S02 Support vertical text scrolling modes for small-screen users, particularly if the top of the page can be visibly rendered while more of the page is rendered in the background. Sideways "paging" is much less intuitive, and quite delay-ful :) ... (OR -- will the app cache a few pages forward and back? That might work...)
  • PH-S03 Support chapter "picker" in addition to book picker. Right now, a single button takes the user to a list of all Bible books. To jump to a different chapter, one must re-pick the current chapter, then choose a chapter. Suggestion: remove the text box (replace with a button), provide current book and chapter as buttons. Also make the current resource (ie Bible version) be a button as well for quick version switching (and perhaps later comparison etc of multiple versions.)

Hope this is helpful! THANK YOU for your great work. This will soon be an outstanding Bible reader!

His blessings to you all,

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Pete Holzmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 9:58 PM

I confirm Michael's Philemon crash, and a bit more:

  • PH-C03 Crash when using "verse" navigation to Philemon, any verse, any resource. (Does not happen with 3Jn or Jude ;) ).
  • PH-C04 Crash recovery always fails the first time after PH-C03. After triggering PH-C03, the first attempt to start up fails -- it hangs while signing in. If I then kill it manually, and then start one more time, all is well. The app is NOT still running after PH-C03; checked that. However I do see (in CatLog) evidence of something attempting to auto-restart... but it fails.


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Pete Holzmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 10:44 PM

A few more bugs noted...

  • PH-B07 Some text symbols do not display at all. I first see this in "Apparatus for the SBL", at the beginning of "Symbols Used in the Text". All I see (where ___ is blanks) is: " ___ or ___ or __1 A textual note..." -- this for the first two entries. Then later, under "Symbols used in the notes", the first several ones are ok, but the double-square bracket symbol next to #6 is missing, "Used by Westcott and Hort to mark material that they did not think..."
  • PH-B08 Menu pops up broken arrows/indicator. In any Bible, pressing the Menu button brings up "Library", "History" and above those a pair of arrows and the current location in the center, a bit like this: << Matthew 5:9 >> ... Not sure if this is supposed to be functional, but right now it is broken in two ways: the left arrow will not "decrease" the location before the current verse, and there is no way to actually do anything -- the only functionality is to count verses "up" and back to where we are now.
  • PH-B09 Hang on sign-in after Exit-by-back-key. If I press the Android "go back" button while in the Library, Logos exits (at least visually -- it is still in memory). If I then press the Logos icon to start up again, I get "Initializing..." for a few seconds, then "Signing in..." forever. The only way out is to kill the app.
  • PH-B10 English text before Bible books is linked to Strongs?! At least in the AV/KJV, each word of the introductory text (found before many books of the bible) is highlighted as a link (cf Hebrews, etc). Click on it and you get a popup Strongs entry?! (Is this intentional?)
  • PH-B11 TDNTA links are broken. I have TDNTA (Theological Dictionary, Abridged in One Volume.) The links in Strongs to TDNTA give an error message: "Navigation Failed".

Three hints for other beta testers:

A partial "workaround" discovered for PH-B06: if a book download fails, and is hung, if I kill and restart the app several times, sometimes it eventually tries to download again. I've seen this happen twice, but I still have more than half a dozen "stuck"/failed downloads.

I use "Watchdog Lite" to easily kill Logos if/when needed. It's also a good tool for catching any rogue app that takes over your cpu :)

Because of bug PH-B09, for now the only clean way to "exit" is simply to go to another app (press Home, etc). Do NOT press the back button to get out. And no, there is not an "Exit" menu item. (Not really needed!)

OVERALL -- not bad for a first beta! Amazing how much works perfectly! (Example: my phone went into Airplane Mode for the night. The library was showing... it immediately reorganized to eliminate online books. I disabled Airplane mode, and the list filled right back up :)


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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 6:03 AM

Found another bug:

When using the 'Lexham Greek Interlinear Septuagint,' the books menu appears distorted.  Chapters and verses appear normally but the books part looks funny and not all of the links seem to work.  Other OT resources like BHS don't have the same problem maybe it's the resources with the Apocrypha that have this problem.  


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Brenda Langley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 4:45 PM

I noticed that after purchasing the NIV bible, I can not see it in my library, although I can see it on my Windows version?

Droid Incredible

Android 2.2

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TWFCC | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 6:04 PM

Is there away to way to see the file size of a book before you download it?


Droid X




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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 8:07 PM


The FAQ section says they are still working out a licensing issue to get the NIV on phones.  That had me worried to, but it should be available eventually.


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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 12 2011 8:34 PM

Jim Langley:

I noticed that after purchasing the NIV bible, I can not see it in my library, although I can see it on my Windows version?

Droid Incredible

Android 2.2

NIV is not available yet. To see if a resource is available you have to check the resource page on to see if the mobile web icon is showing (it looks like an ipod). This isn't a bug, but a licensing issue with Zondervan.

Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church

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