Can We Have A Way To Manage Automatic Installations In Resources That Undergo New Versions?

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Rev. Nannette La Fosse | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:34 AM

Hi:

 I just want to ask if there is a way to avoid that LOGOS automatically install a new version of a resource and replace the old one. For example the NIV. I wanted to keep the original version that I got, but once the new came out, it was installed automatically. There are some resources [specially commentaries from authors that are no longer around] that experiment revisions, expanded information, etc. through big updates and actualizations that changes the original document significantly. I would like to have the option of keeping the old and the new one separated and not replaced. I am not referring about updates because of typos errors, but a real replacement and revision. Can we get the option of selecting something like: "Do you want to replace? Do you want to put in a separate folder? Etc?

Rev. Nannette La Fosse

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Kenny Larsen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:37 AM

With the NIV, the old NIV has become NIV84 and should still be in your library. One hopes that will be the case for other resource updates.

Kenny

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Rev. Nannette La Fosse | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:47 AM

Hi Kenny:

        I was searching my resourses and can't find NIV 84. I only have the new one.

 Rev. Nannette La Fosse

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:51 AM

Nannette,

I'm afraid I too have both the NIV 2011 and NIV 84 in my resources with a resource search of "niv".  the 1984 is in parenthesis for the older version (blue cover) and no date is indicated for the 2011 version (yellow cover)

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Rev. Nannette La Fosse:

For example the NIV. I wanted to keep the original version that I got, but once the new came out, it was installed automatically.

Hi Nannette,

I checked your account, and our records show that you have only purchased a "KF" series product. As per the explanation of changes in KF, the 1984 NIV and TNIV were removed and replaced with the 2011 NIV in that package.

As far as I can tell, the original NIV was not replaced with the new NIV in your library, but you had the 2011 NIV all along. The update you saw recently was just a change we made to fix some paragraph formatting (no Bible text was changed).

A discussion of how to buy the 1984 NIV can be found here: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/35132.aspx

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Rev. Nannette La Fosse | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:57 AM

Thank you Bradley. No way to get TNIV? I already saw the 84 in the web, but could not find the order [TNIV] in the resources. What about the commentary sets? I heard that The Expositor's Bible Commentary is going to get an updated edition. I want to keep the original. How does that work? Do you install or you present as an upgrade to buy?

Rev. Nannette La Fosse

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:24 PM

Bradley Grainger:

A discussion of how to buy the 1984 NIV can be found here: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/35132.aspx

Bradley - 

There was some discussion that the NIV84 might not be available in the future. Do you know if there are plans to pull it? I understand that this is largely a zondervan issue.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 12:30 PM

Rev. Nannette La Fosse:
I heard that The Expositor's Bible Commentary is going to get an updated edition. I want to keep the original. How does that work? Do you install or you present as an upgrade to buy?

When a new edition of a book comes out, you would keep your old edition, and you would need to re-purchase the new edition if you also wanted that. It doesn't happen very often, but sometimes when it does Logos will offer existing users a discount on the newer edition. Even if you take the discount, you'll still be able to keep your old edition.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:37 PM

Mark Barnes:

When a new edition of a book comes out, you would keep your old edition, and you would need to re-purchase the new edition if you also wanted that. 

I think Mark meant to say "you would need to purchase the new edition..." since the new edition would not have been purchased previously. 

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Rev. Nannette La Fosse:

No way to get TNIV? I already saw the 84 in the web, but could not find the order [TNIV] in the resources.

As far as I can tell, the TNIV is not currently available on logos.com. I don't know why this is, sorry, or if there's any way to get it.

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alabama24:

There was some discussion that the NIV84 might not be available in the future. Do you know if there are plans to pull it? I understand that this is largely a zondervan issue.

Logos will respect the publisher's decisions about electronic distribution (or lack thereof); I don't know of any plans to pull it, but it's possible that they could make a decision without giving us much advance warning.

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