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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2011 2:06 AM

L4 does not recognize Greek fonts. Sad

Docx document with "Graeca II"

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I have searched
in the forum but I have not found a solution.
What I can do?

Thanks for your help.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 2:08 AM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

L4 does not recognize Greek fonts. Sad

Docx document with "Graeca II"

 

Use a different one, such as SBL Greek, it works (at least on Windows).

EDIT: See this thread http://community.logos.com/forums/t/37504.aspx for examples.

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 2:34 AM

Thaks NewbieMick.

I changed the fonts, but Word does not recognize it.

"devomai" uses SBL Greek, the other words used Graeca II. It seems I have a problem.

Thank´s.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 2:44 AM

Ernesto,

I hope some of the Mac gurus can help you with the fonts they use. In the other thread I also tried Gentium and kadmosU - maybe give these a chance?

Mick

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 3:01 AM

Ernesto

I use Palatino Linotype in Word for Mac. It seems to work for me. Hope it works for you. Graeca II is an old TrueType font, while Palatino Linotype is a Unicode font with a much bigger character set. There can be issues copy pasting into Palatino Linotype, mainly in some of the diacritical marks, but it's not too much of an issue.

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 3:14 AM

I used Palatino Linotype but does not work. I hope to find a solution. I have many documents (of my studies at the seminary) using Graeca II Tongue Tied

Mick and Alan, thank you very much.

Ernesto


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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 3:27 AM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:
I used Palatino Linotype but does not work. I hope to find a solution.

Ernesto,

- have you verified that the text is recognized in Word as Greek language?

- what font do you use in Logos for displaying Greek, maybe you can play with this

Otherwise it might help to post a small docx that doesn't work for you to see whether others have the same issue or not.

Mick

 

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 4:38 AM

Hi Mick.

Yes, I have verified that the text is recognized in Word as Greek language.

I uploaded the document docx that doesn't work.

2845.filewithproblems.docx

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 5:20 AM

Ernesto,

As I couldn't use your file on the machine I'm on right now, I thought again about your posting:

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

I changed the fonts, but Word does not recognize it.

"devomai" uses SBL Greek, the other words used Graeca II. It seems I have a problem.

Are you sure SBL Greek is correctly installed on your system? Try downloading it again from http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_SBLGreek.aspx - it's free and according to http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_FAQ.aspx#Mac it should run on OS 10.4 upward.

Mick

 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 5:40 AM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

Thaks NewbieMick.

I changed the fonts, but Word does not recognize it.

"devomai" uses SBL Greek, the other words used Graeca II. It seems I have a problem.

Thank´s.

The old Greek fonts like this were not unicode. In Unicode each character has a unique code, this means that if you change fonts you don't get confusion of characters. However, these old fonts mapped Greek characters to Latin character codes (or sometimes other character sets). That is why when you change fonts the characters change. The old way made typing easy but causes problems like this now that the font system has been standardized.

You options are

  1. Wait, hope that Logos will design a solution to convert old-school fonts to unicode. (I don't find this likely... or it could take a really long time)
  2. Design a macro to run on your old documents that will do global search that will find all places with the old Greek font and replace it with the appropriate unicode character. This will require a search and replace for every letter and mark used.
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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 6:34 AM

I want my documents soon, I will choose option 2,  It´s the best option for now. I must first learn how to run macros. Thank you very much for your help.
I will continue within the forum if there is another option.

Ernesto

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 8:58 AM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

I want my documents soon, I will choose option 2,  It´s the best option for now. I must first learn how to run macros. Thank you very much for your help.
I will continue within the forum if there is another option.

Ernesto

Ernesto,

I recorded a video demonstrating how you should be able to make your macros

http://screencast.com/t/y2y5ophxnBlt

I did it on a PC, but I hope it'll be similar enough to Word for Mac that you can figure it out.

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 29 2011 9:39 AM

It's amazing. Kevin, Thank you very much. With your help, everything is easier. Now I know what to do. I'll get to work.

God bless you all.

Ernesto

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2011 2:19 AM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

It's amazing. Kevin, Thank you very much. With your help, everything is easier. Now I know what to do. I'll get to work.

God bless you all.

Ernesto

Ernesto,

I'm not sure whether you still work at this - what we all missed back in Summer is that Libronix (Logos 3) has an automated feature to convert non-unicode into unicode fonts - see this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/41469.aspx 

Mick

 

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2011 3:41 PM

Thanks Mick.
I have many documents with non-unicode. You have been of great help to me.

Ernesto

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2011 4:53 PM

Ernesto A. Ochoa Ramos:

Thanks Mick.
I have many documents with non-unicode. You have been of great help to me.

Ernesto

Ernesto,

you're very welcome. Before using the L3-tool, check back by test-building a PB - maybe the current version of L4 PB builder can read non-unicode Greek fonts, if they are installed - at least that worked on my machine with the TekniaGreek font and if L4 is restricted to only some non-unicode fonts, they will be even faster replaced in Word than using the L3 tool.

I really didn't expect this and had already a number of screenshots prepared to build a wiki page on non-unicode conversion when I found that L4 built the book with TekniaGreek in it.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2011 9:35 AM

There are a number of free tools available for this sort of task. Here's a helpful list: http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/2010/05/greek-legacy-fonts-to-unicode.html

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Ernesto Ochoa | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 30 2011 9:52 AM

Mick and Mark. You have encouraged me to try again encouraged. Microsoft Word macros do not work for me well and I decided to wait. Your help comes very well.

Now I have more options. We report results as soon as I get to work on my documents with non-unicode font. As if someone else is in my situation.

Thank you.

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 3 2011 5:03 AM

Just one other thing to note regarding fonts which you may not be aware of. Logos 4 Mac comes with a lot of greek & hebrew fonts used in the software which are not installed in the usual places in the Mac. Don't ask me why... one of the non-native Mac quirks of Logos 4.

You can however make use of the fonts by copying them to standard Mac folder locations - please see this thread.

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/38461/287900.aspx#287900

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 1:33 PM

Mark Barnes:

There are a number of free tools available for this sort of task. Here's a helpful list: http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/2010/05/greek-legacy-fonts-to-unicode.html

My computer has been wiped clean, and I'm trying to re-install this legacy font, and for some reason I can't seem to figure out how I did it last time.

I can't seem to get this box installed again:

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