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Dale Garman | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 15 2011 10:42 PM

The mobile app has a lot of great things about it especially when you are online and not sure in general that there is anything better online.  I purchased the Logos 4 because of cross platform access (although I did not know the significant limitation on offline usage)  There are two major things that I find frustrating.

No way to hide resources in online mode - the standard packages come with hundreds of resources you won't use and with limited screen space, trying to find a resource is very painful.  Even if you figure out how to hide in your desktop it doesn't carry foward to the mobile app since it appears all hidding them does is remove them from that particular device and there is no way to remove them from the mobile app.  So you have to scroll through hundreds of resources to find anything.

offline almost worthless - I travel internationally a lot (where cost requires turning off data roaming) so I end up using my iphone in offline mode a lot and being able to carry study material with me is one of my biggest requirements.  As far as I can tell this app in offline mode is really only a reader.  You can download various other materials but there is no indexing and no way to access them (commentaries, word study tools etc.).   Despite paying for all these resources and even being willing to devote the space on my mobile app to download a number of them, I can't access them.  It is forcing me back to Olive Tree for offline use since you can't even do a basic word lookup.

Am I missing something?  I hope these two items are on the list of things that someone is working on?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 16 2011 2:59 AM

Hi Dale,

Indeed the iPhone and iPad Apps are not as fully featured as the desktop app - but then again there is not the screen real estate to cope with multi-panel widows. However I don't think the limitations are as severe as you imply.

Dale Garman:
As far as I can tell this app in offline mode is really only a reader.  You can download various other materials but there is no indexing and no way to access them (commentaries, word study tools etc.).

Is there anything you wish to the app would do that is not covered by these instructions.

http://www.logos.com/videos/iphone

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Dale Garman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 16 2011 8:49 AM

The answer is yes, since it doesn't do any of these things in offline mode.  In online mode the app does all kinds of good stuff and it is quite fully featured.  When and if notes are synced that will also be a great feature.  Having the same info on multiple platforms (more or less) is a terrific benefit and a main reason why I was interested in the product to start with. 

However, it does almost nothing besides being a reader in offline mode and that is not really disclosed in the information given before getting the app.  That has nothing to do with screen real estate since it does all kinds of stuff in the same real estate in on line mode.  I have used Olive Tree for several years, and so it is feasible for this type of app to link to commentaries or other  material, do word searches etc. in offline mode  Many people only use the app  in online mode and that is fine and for them it meets their needs.  But many apps are also written to have at least some basic functions in offline mode, and because of the international travel I do, that is always one of my key criteria for an app.  I suspect I'm not the only person who uses it in offline mode.   So I'm just asking that it be considered as the developers are looking a features to work on. 

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 16 2011 8:56 AM

I download my commentaries on to my iPad.  At the moment I have lots more to download.  But I can use it for Bible study.  And do so regularly.  My problem is that, with very slow wifi, I cannot download some resources.  And as an eReader the iPad is fantastic.  At last I'm devouring the books I've had in my Logos library for years!  I was dubious about spending what for me is a lot of money on something that can't do what a computer does, but I use if for hours each day and now consider it monbey well spent.  I shan't go rushing after the latest model.  The iPad 1 does me very nicely!

iPhone did look like more money than I wished to spend for what it does.  When I want a handy eREeader, I take my Kindle with me.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 16 2011 10:16 AM

Dale Garman:
In online mode the app does all kinds of good stuff and it is quite fully featured

I suspect that many of the features that are online only would 1) take up a lot of space on the device and 2) would tax the system. Mobile devices do not have the same power that laptops and desktops do.

Dale Garman:
When and if notes are synced that will also be a great feature.  Having the same info on multiple platforms (more or less) is a terrific benefit and a main reason why I was interested in the product to start with.

Notes & Highlights are "coming soon" according to Bob. However, his "coming soon" and my "coming soon" are not necessarily the same. The good news for you is that he wrote that months ago Smile. Logos will begin Beta testing 4.5 "soon." Part of the new release will be an improvement in sync features. I am guessing that will eventually mean an update to the mobile app, but this is conjecture.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 7:42 AM

alabama24:
Notes & Highlights are "coming soon" according to Bob. However, his "coming soon" and my "coming soon" are not necessarily the same.

<saracasm>

I now believe Bob was speaking Messianically (is that a word) and like Jesus he didn't mean it will happen after a very short time, but in a sudden fashion. One day we will all just be able to take notes, highlight and sync all of this with our computers. But it might not happen until my grandkids are studying the Bible on Logos 11 which runs on a microscopic computing device embedded in their brains.

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