Logos 4 Mac Ready for Lion?

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Brad Wingler | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2011 10:21 AM

Since I have upgraded to Lion.  My Logos crashes upon start up everytime.  Any thoughts?

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 10:24 AM

Brad Wingler:

Since I have upgraded to Lion.  My Logos crashes upon start up everytime.  Any thoughts?

What version of Logos are you using? Are any crash logs being generated? Check http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging#Mac for info on logs.

I've been using Logos on Lion with no problem.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 10:36 AM

Brad Wingler:

Since I have upgraded to Lion.  My Logos crashes upon start up everytime.  Any thoughts?

I haven't seen too many problems with Lion that weren't there with Snow Leopard.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 10:41 AM

Brad, try updating to the latest version if unsure:

4.3 Service Release 4 (v4.30.0.1597) available

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 12:12 PM

Same here ... not quite every time but 25% ish.

I think that it is partly my fault. L4Mac start-up times are so slow that I find myself swapping spaces to surf the net, check emails etc. during the 2/3 minutes startup time. This causes most crashes.

L4Mac was never this slow under Snow Leopard ... it seems a Lion is not known for its speed!

My startup speed seems slow even when only opening 5 resources, and does not seem to be significantly improved by opening up to a blank layout.

My mac is about 18months old, a 3.66 Ghz i7 Macbook pro with 8Gb RAM ... not a slouch and not old.

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Wes Saad | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 2:25 PM

Martin Folley:
I think that it is partly my fault. L4Mac start-up times are so slow that I find myself swapping spaces to surf the net, check emails etc. during the 2/3 minutes startup time. This causes most crashes.

Strange. I do the same thing - launch Logos then go do other things while it loads. It has crashed from time to time, but crashes are not frequent for me. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 30 2011 10:30 PM

Martin Folley:
L4Mac start-up times are so slow that I find myself swapping spaces to surf the net, check emails etc. during the 2/3 minutes startup time. This causes most crashes.

Wonder about always enabling diagnostic logging => Mac Diagnostic Logging  then use steps => How to Report Bugs in Logos 4 Mac

Crashes puzzling; would like to look at diagnostic logs.

Other option is waiting for Logos support next week (email or call) => http://www.logos.com/about/contact

Keep Smiling Smile

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 30 2011 11:23 PM

2 to 3 minute start ups?? Really?

I own an early 2010 iMac w/ a 3.06ghz Intel Core Duo processor and only 4gb of ram (running snow leopard) and my Logos 4 opens fully into my main layout with about 8 resources open in less than 12 seconds.

 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 5:23 AM

Joshua Garcia:

2 to 3 minute start ups?? Really?

I own an early 2010 iMac w/ a 3.06ghz Intel Core Duo processor and only 4gb of ram (running snow leopard) and my Logos 4 opens fully into my main layout with about 8 resources open in less than 12 seconds.

If you have an SSD I can see this, but on a MacBook Pro with an SSD and 8GB of RAM and Intel Core i7 Processor it usually takes around 20 seconds.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 2:37 PM

3 year old iMac  - 24 secs

tootle pip

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 2:38 PM

4 year old white macbook 34 secs

tootle pip

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 2:55 PM

  • 2010 MacBook Pro
  • 2.4 GHz | Core 2 Duo
  • 8 GB DDR3
open directly to reading layout with 8 resources & 5 note sets in 35 seconds 

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:03 AM

Mid-2010 MacBook (white) with 4GB RAM running Lion OS X - 34 seconds.

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 5:01 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Joshua Garcia:

2 to 3 minute start ups?? Really?

I own an early 2010 iMac w/ a 3.06ghz Intel Core Duo processor and only 4gb of ram (running snow leopard) and my Logos 4 opens fully into my main layout with about 8 resources open in less than 12 seconds.

If you have an SSD I can see this, but on a MacBook Pro with an SSD and 8GB of RAM and Intel Core i7 Processor it usually takes around 20 seconds.

I do not have a SSD. Just your typical 7200. I got out a stopwatch and decided to open and close L4 a few times. I was ranging between 18 and 12 seconds each time. I wonder why my times are faster than others - especially your SSD i7 macbook!

 

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Fernando A Gonzalez | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 6:17 AM

Joshua Garcia:
I wonder why my times are faster than others

Perhaps the size of the resource library?  

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 6:51 AM

Fernando A Gonzalez:

Joshua Garcia:
I wonder why my times are faster than others

Perhaps the size of the resource library?  

Also, your layout that you open to might consume less computing power. Would you want to post a screenshot?

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 1:46 PM

alabama24:

Fernando A Gonzalez:

Joshua Garcia:
I wonder why my times are faster than others

Perhaps the size of the resource library?  

Also, your layout that you open to might consume less computing power. Would you want to post a screenshot?

These performance comparisons are very individual to a Logos 4 installation and if a real (scientific) comparison was to be done there would have to be similar (very close, exact) installations and Logos 4 setup. Some, but not complete, things to consider:

  1. Mac computers - model, processor speed, RAM (total & available, is there any page swapping happening), HDD speed
  2. OS X version
  3. Logos installation - what base package, how many titles in total?
  4. Layout - standard or custom?
  5. Then for the layout:
    1. How many Bibles opened?
    2. How many other resources opened - are they all linked to the Bible passage
    3. The Bible passage being looked at - 1 verse, multiple verses, book?
    4. Is the Text Comparison window being used. If so is it pointing to - one verse, multiple verses or whole Bible book.

As Logos 4 can, and does, make very heavy demands on a machine there is the potential to see a very very wide range of times (up to and including it looking like a machine has frozen) for people to do the same things in Logos 4.

"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 1:52 PM

Brad Wingler:

Since I have upgraded to Lion.  My Logos crashes upon start up everytime.  Any thoughts?

No problems with L4M with Lion - but I had clean install of Lion & Logos 4.

Follow KSFJ's request and post your logs. Your installation is (likely) corrupt and/or your Lion installation is (possibly) corrupt.

"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:24 PM

I own Platinum and have 1,814 resources - before Perseus. This is my current workspace.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 6:34 PM

Joshua Garcia:
This is my current workspace.

Your layout is fairly simple. I would expect it to be on the quicker side. I think one of the things that makes mine take longer is that I have 5 passage lists. 

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