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Bob Carnahan | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2011 11:42 PM

I just loaded the iPhone Logos app but can't see where to logoff the app at. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks

-Bob

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doc | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 1:02 AM

Hi Bob,

To close the app simply press the Home button on your iPhone.

To Log out of your account, well you used to be able to do it from the More menu at bottom, but that option doesn't seem to be there any longer.... good question, I don't normally log off, i have a pass code set on my phone....can see it would be a problem if two different people using a share device,  say iPad, and had different accounts...

 

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JimTowler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 3:39 AM

It used to be that when you logged out. the app would discard all downloaded resources. Remember the license is linked to your login, and from recent comments about how Logos stores files in iOS, they are currently in a "cache" area. They did not survive the iOS 4.x to 5.0 upgrade.

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 5:02 AM

Bob - FIrst, welcome to the forums! 

The question I would ask of you is why would you want/need to log off the app? An iPhone is designed for one user. Logos is designed for one user. I fail to see why anyone would need to log off! 

If there is someone else in your family with a logos account, they can use biblia.com on your iPhone.

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Bob Carnahan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 1:23 PM

I understand this is a free app and it's a blessing to have it.

The choice to do so is one reason.

What if you have only one iPhone and a spouse would like to have access. Shouldn't have to go elsewhere.

While logged in, how much resources is it using against the battery time?

 

Blessings,

 

-Bob

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Bob Carnahan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 1:37 PM

Thanks for the info. I was looking to purchase one of the library packages. Is the purchased packages access based on your login account to the license as well?

 

Blessings,

 

-Bob

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 4:27 PM

Bob - I am confused by your posts, but I will try to answer as best as I understand your questions. First, there is no way to "log out" of the mobile apps. It is designed for "one user." This is true for the desktop application as well. If you are using a computer with multiple user accounts, you can add Logos to each of those accounts, however, the only reason to do so is if you create a separate Logos account with separate purchases. Logos does allow a husband and wife to share resources (they are viewed as "one user" as long as one spouse is not in vocational ministry) but you should be aware that it is still designed for "one user." All highlights, notes, settings, etc will be shared by both users. The only way around this is to purchase another base package. 

I think that you were also asking if purchases for the desktop work on the mobile app. The answer is yes, although not all publishers have granted users the right to view the resources on the mobile devices. If you view a resource product description page on the logos website, it will show an iPhone icon to let you know that the resource is available on mobile devices.

If I didn't explain that well or if you have other questions, feel free to ask again! 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 4:35 PM

Bobby Carnahan:
What if you have only one iPhone and a spouse would like to have access. Shouldn't have to go elsewhere.

There is one other option that I didn't think of. You can download both the Vyrso and Logos apps. Your wife could use one, and you could use the other. Here are some scenarios:

  1. If your wife is not interested in ANY of your Logos resources, but would like to purchase Vyrso books that you would NOT be interested in (i.e. Amish romance novels), she can create her own Logos/Vyrso account and use that info on the Vyrso app.
  2. If your wife would want access to ANY of your Logos resources, (i.e. Bibles), you should use only one Logos account. She could use the Vyrso app and you could use the Logos app. Note: any highlighting or notes (not currently an option, but will be with the next major release) would be shared with both users.

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doc | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 4:37 PM

JimT:
It used to be that when you logged out. the app would discard all downloaded resources.

Of course...that explains why its not there anymore  thanks Jim

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Bob Carnahan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 9:09 PM

alabama24:

Bob - I am confused by your posts, but I will try to answer as best as I understand your questions. First, there is no way to "log out" of the mobile apps. It is designed for "one user." This is true for the desktop application as well. If you are using a computer with multiple user accounts, you can add Logos to each of those accounts, however, the only reason to do so is if you create a separate Logos account with separate purchases. Logos does allow a husband and wife to share resources (they are viewed as "one user" as long as one spouse is not in vocational ministry) but you should be aware that it is still designed for "one user." All highlights, notes, settings, etc will be shared by both users. The only way around this is to purchase another base package. 

I think that you were also asking if purchases for the desktop work on the mobile app. The answer is yes, although not all publishers have granted users the right to view the resources on the mobile devices. If you view a resource product description page on the logos website, it will show an iPhone icon to let you know that the resource is available on mobile devices.

If I didn't explain that well or if you have other questions, feel free to ask again! 

 

Sorry for the confusion and appreciate your taking the time to respond with answers.

I'm still learning this stuff and I appreciate your patience.

Blessings,

-Bob

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2011 9:37 PM

It's my pleasure! I think you will find many forum users who are eager to help others learn to study better with Logos.

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Eric Schott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 6 2011 10:07 AM

First, I am thankful your company allows the product to be used on spouses computers.  Though being less than enthralled with the demeanor presentation style at AACC and your videos, the license swayed me to select on your product over the competitors. Before purchasing the product, my wife and I had separate Logos accounts to evaluate the product.  After spending over $300, you can imagine the elevation of my disappointment with Logos when I too encountered the iPhone/iPad issue.

To answer the original poster's question, here is a method to change the iPhone/iPad sign-on information:

  1. Use a web browser to change the password on the account your iPhone/iPad is using.
  2. Start the Logos iPhone/iPad application.  You will be prompted enter new sign-on credentials

 As a software engineer, I suggest you change your authentication database to add an additional field to the user's records: spouse email address.  Then the spouse can have a "separate" account for bookmarks, etc and yet have the privileges of spouse who purchased the product.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 6 2011 12:15 PM

Eric - First, welcome to the forums!

Eric Schott:
you can imagine the elevation of my disappointment with Logos when I too encountered the iPhone/iPad issue.

I am unsure which issue you are talking about. Can you be more specific? 

Eric Schott:
I suggest you change your authentication database to add an additional field to the user's records: spouse email address.  Then the spouse can have a "separate" account for bookmarks, etc and yet have the privileges of spouse who purchased the product.

I am unsure what this would accomplish. Logos is designed for "one user," and only "one user." Thankfully Logos allows for "one user" to include a spouse, as has been mentioned before, but with limitations. Since the software is for "one user," there cannot be a "'separate' account for bookmarks, etc" or else it would be "two users." If you choose to share your account with your spouse, you must be aware of this limitation. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 7 2011 1:29 AM

Bobby Carnahan:
While logged in, how much resources is it using against the battery time?

None

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 7 2011 4:20 AM

Bobby Carnahan:
While logged in, how much resources is it using against the battery time?

I didn't catch this before, or understand what you meant until now (I think Smile). Are you asking how much battery does the app use when Logged in but not being used? As Mike replied, "none." The state of being "logged in" is one of being credentialed. It does NOT mean that the app is frantically using the internet to maintain a connection. Also, you should be aware that all programs on iOS work in a sort of "hibernation" when not active (open). This allows for quicker loading of apps.

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Milt Eichler | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 4:25 PM

Thanks Eric - great solution!

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Wes Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2012 3:25 AM

I found an alternative way to log off your account on the iPad or iPhone: simply remove Logos and re-install it via the App Store! It doesn't take long.

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Mike Melloy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2012 7:56 AM

Wes Jones:

I found an alternative way to log off your account on the iPad or iPhone: simply remove Logos and re-install it via the App Store! It doesn't take long.

The only drawback to this approach is that you will lose any resources that you have downloaded for offline use.

Blessings, Mike.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2012 8:34 AM

Mike Melloy:
The only drawback to this approach is that you will lose any resources that you have downloaded for offline use.

You are correct that deleting the app will cause you to lose your downloaded resources… however, it is the only way to sign in to another account on the Logos app. Another solution is to install one of the other Logos apps for the other user: 

  1. Logos App (called Bible!)
  2. Vyrso
  3. Faithlife

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Timothy James Witherwax | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 20 2013 6:45 PM

If you change your login on logos you would want to log out of the app on the iPad to be able to log back in with your updated username.  if you don't do this your reading lists won't update properly.

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