Map for Church History
I tried to search a certain place in Church History in the "Biblical Places" tool but I got nothing. So is map for Church History included in the Scholar's Library - Platinum? If not, are there any Logos resources purchasable? How to search to see if I have the relevant maps in my library (since it contains many books including Church history)?
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Kolen, please give an example of what you are looking for but cannot find. Maybe, the exact word/place.
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Constantinople
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In Logos go to Tools, then Bible Facts, and chose Biblical places. Then type the word in.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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constantinople doesn't work for me. I type constantinople and enter and nothing happen. Is it because I do not have the right resource in the Logos? If so what resources should I buy?
I type const... and Constantia is the only one appearing.
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Since most of Church History has involved the spread of the Church from its original origin in biblical lands out towards the rest of the world, you will find that most of the cities significant to Church History (e.g., Carthage, Wittenberg, Geneva, etc.) will not show up in "Biblical Places" because they are not biblical places. Or even if they were in the Bible (e.g., Rome), the arrangement of countries and regions around them at the time you're interested in will be different than in biblical times.
There are 7 maps of early Church history in The First Advance. It is not part of Platinum, but it can be purchased standalone for $17.95. Here are a couple of examples:
Exploring Church History by Howard F. Vos (also not part of Platinum) has two maps, this "EUROPE ON THE EVE OF THE REFORMATION" and another showing Europe during the Reformation.
There are occasional maps in Christian History & Biography Magazine (alas, not part of Platinum either), e.g.:
There are a very few maps in the Lion History Series, but unfortunately these tend to be reproduced showing a gap where the page crease was down the middle in the printed book:
You can also try searching through your Entire Library for #image map NEAR history. In my library, that finds this "Map of Important Places in Waldensian History" but not much else of real historical significance.
Frankly, I think this is one area that is lacking in the Logos resources. They need to add something like The Macmillan Atlas History of Christianity or The Baker Atlas of Christian History.
EDIT: More good ones would be:
- Augsburg Historical Atlas of Christianity in the Middle Ages and Reformation
- Kregel Pictorial Guide to Church History (multi-volume; contains maps)
- Historical Atlas of Christianity (Continuum)
- The Routledge Historical Atlas of Religion in America
- Atlas of Global Christianity (Edinburgh University Press)
- Historical Atlas of Religions (Checkmark Books)
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Sorry about that. It was Constantia in Lybia that I saw. Not sure, but the name Constantinople seems to have appeared after the Bible was written, my guess.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Thanks. Your information is very helpful.
Let's suggest Logos to enhance the functionality of studying Church History. I heard that some other softwares are doing it but I don't want to manage two different softwares at the same time.
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There are some cool animated maps of Church History here: http://www2.div.ed.ac.uk/courses/Animated_Maps
And there are a few maps of History of Christianity in Wikimedia Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_history_of_Christianity
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Thanks. This is helpful too. The animation is great.
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Searching for Byzantium (another name for Constantinople) did bring up a few maps.
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Lynden Williams said:
the name Constantinople seems to have appeared after the Bible was written
FYI - Constantinople was named after Constantine the Great, the first "christian" emperor of Rome, more than 200 years after the conclusion of the NT.
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Rosie Perera said:
spread of the Church from its original origin in biblical lands out towards the rest of the world, you will find that most of the cities significant to Church History (e.g., Carthage, Wittenberg, Geneva, etc.)
Because people expect it of me, I am obligated to point out you've omitted Edessa, Musul, Babylonia ...[;)] After all, historically the Western Church is the tag-along
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Oh wow, this one would be another awesome one to have in Logos!!
Carta’s Illustrated History of Christianity (200 maps, 240 illustrations)
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Rosie Perera said:
Oh wow, this one would be another awesome one to have in Logos!!
Especially from a teachers perspective. It is always helpful to have access to good visual aids.
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Kolen Cheung said:
Let's suggest Logos to enhance the functionality of studying Church History. I heard that some other softwares are doing it but I don't want to manage two different softwares at the same time.
I am all for this. In spite of having a great many church history resources, the automated tools tend to only work with Biblical topics:
- The Bible Word Study limits word input to Biblical words (try entering "trinity"). The BWS could be used for other kinds of dictionary look-ups if it were expanded.
- The Topic searchand the Logos Controlled Vocabulry (LCV) is limited to Biblical topics (but much less so than BWS--"trinity" works here). Logos has said that they might expand the LCV to include church history topics, but it hasn't happened yet.
- The Bibilcal people/place/things (BPPT) is obviously limited to Biblical items (as evidenced by the name of the tool). Your suggestion to expand it to include church history is a good one.
However I realized that this is a lot more work for Logos. Limiting the tools to the Bible constrains the amount of data that has to be itemized. Expanding it to church history makes the possible number of topics in the LCV and in BPPT unbounded, and arbitrary boundaries would need to be set up for it to ever be finished. So it may be outside the scope of what Logos wants to do with their software.
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Definitely a pre-pub on some of Rosie's would sure go into development quickly.
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Kolen Cheung said:
Let's suggest Logos to enhance the functionality of studying Church History. I heard that some other softwares are doing it but I don't want to manage two different softwares at the same time.
If Logos is serious about reaching the High Anglican, Catholic, Church of the East, High Lutheran and Orthodox market, they will have to expand their church history support. I recommend Participatory Biblical Exegesis by Matthew Levering to explain why,
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Denise Barnhart said:
Definitely a pre-pub on some of Rosie's would sure go into development quickly.
I've sent all my suggestions to suggest@logos.com. Hopefully at least one of them will end up in pre-pub.
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Rosie Perera said:
Oh wow, this one would be another awesome one to have in Logos!!
Carta’s Illustrated History of Christianity (200 maps, 240 illustrations)
Agreed. There is an old Carta suggestion thread. Why don't you bump it by adding this?
Todd Phillips said:Kolen Cheung said:Let's suggest Logos to enhance the functionality of studying Church History. I heard that some other softwares are doing it but I don't want to manage two different softwares at the same time.
I am all for this. In spite of having a great many church history resources, the automated tools tend to only work with Biblical topics:
- The Bible Word Study limits word input to Biblical words (try entering "trinity"). The BWS could be used for other kinds of dictionary look-ups if it were expanded.
- The Topic searchand the Logos Controlled Vocabulry (LCV) is limited to Biblical topics (but much less so than BWS--"trinity" works here). Logos has said that they might expand the LCV to include church history topics, but it hasn't happened yet.
- The Bibilcal people/place/things (BPPT) is obviously limited to Biblical items (as evidenced by the name of the tool). Your suggestion to expand it to include church history is a good one.
Another great suggestion. Start a suggestion thread and I'll [Y] it.
MJ. Smith said:If Logos is serious about reaching the High Anglican, Catholic, Church of the East, High Lutheran and Orthodox market, they will have to expand their church history support.
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MJ. Smith said:I recommend Participatory Biblical Exegesis by Matthew Levering to explain why,
You really want that book, don't you? I think it's the 4th time in a month that you've lobbied for it. [:D]
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