Bought a Kindle Keyboard ....& Logos Biblia.com WORKS on it!

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 9:46 AM

I've used my first generation Kindle ever since library.logos.com was released to read Logos stuff. Never had a problem.

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 10:22 AM

Jacob Hantla:

I've used my first generation Kindle ever since library.logos.com was released to read Logos stuff. Never had a problem.

Wireless, or 3G?

 

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 12:44 PM

nicky crane:

Jacob Hantla:

I've used my first generation Kindle ever since library.logos.com was released to read Logos stuff. Never had a problem.

Wireless, or 3G?

3g...probably been 2 years now without issues.

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Billy Neumann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 2:07 PM

I researched the Kindle for months before I bought.  The 3G is free for anything the Kindle can access (that includes any website that it wil open) - I have been using it for 9 months.  There are no bills.  You initially pay extra for the 3G version of the KIndle precisely for the 3G - it clearly states that there are NO monthly fees.

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Billy Neumann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 2:10 PM

You will not get a bill - it is clearly included

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 20 2011 3:47 PM

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If using their 3G for the browser, it looks like you could open yourself up to some huge bills or arbitration that could cost you plenty. Indifferent

Within the license agreement it sets a $5 per week rate for international use and a $1 /GB data transfer rate for downloading "personal" files. Now all they have to do is convince a judge what data is "personal" and what data is not. The danger of opening yourself up to huge bills occurs when you connect to third parties. Amazon has stated the service access costs in the user agreement. And the very fact they issue a caveat about connecting with third party carriers proves they know you can and expect you will, connect to 3G carriers other than their own.

I really don't believe Amazon is trying to prevent 3G access to URLs other than the Amazon/Kindle.store. I think they are just insulating themselves from liability for huge bills from other providers. It would be hard to convince a court Amazon did not facilitate and intend for Kindle buyers to access multiple websites when the functionality was included and demonstrated in Amazon's documentation and marketed in comparison with the WiFi only models. 

Of course, if all Kindle users start using the free 3G to surf the web and not buy books from the Amazon/Kindle.store, the economics of that business model will collapse and Amazon will have to implement access fees or termination of the service. (When a socialist system has more benefactors than contributors, it collapses. That is also why Logos must remain profitable to survive. Wink And if we think Logos should operate as a ministry rather than a "for-profit" business, we should start sending contributions to support the new pricing model we want to see.)

 

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 21 2011 8:27 AM

Notice that the User Agreement was last modified on September 28, 2011, just a few weeks before the new Kindle Touch WiFi/3G was released. It is my understanding that the 3G of the Touch has been modified to be used only with the Amazon Store and Wikipedia, while the WiFi is much broader in capability.

I've had my Kindle 3, now called Kindle Keyboard, for a year and use it on occasion to access biblia.com. There was nothing previously to give any pause in so doing. Frankly, browsing with e-ink and the fairly clunky non-touch K3 is not joyful experience. I suspect the data used is pretty inconsequential. The selling point was a one-time $50 fee for lifetime usage. Of course, with technology, "lifetime" is only a few years, at best.

It is suspected on the Kindle Boards forum that the Touch version makes for a friendlier browsing experience and may be behind Amazon's restricting the 3G use. That is why I kept my K3 and did not upgrade to the new Touch. Regardless, I definitely would not pay $50 just so I could download Kindle books when I am without WiFi connectivity.

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Michael Anda | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 21 2011 9:15 PM

I tried to use Biblia.com on my WiFi Kindle 3 at church tonight.  My pastor likes to, at times, use multiple Bible versions as he teaches.  Sadly, the setup was too slow to keep up with him, even when he wasn't switching translations.  For some reason the Amplified Bible was really hard pressed to keep up.  It only displayed one verse at a time and was very unresponsive when trying to advance merely one verse at a time.  My signal strength was 3 bars.

 

 

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 22 2011 4:25 AM

Michael Anda:
My signal strength was 3 bars.

This is largely irrelevant with wifi - meaning that you should always have a similar signal strength in that building, in that spot. A cellular signal is different in that other factors (such as weather, cars driving by, etc) impact your signal strength.  The real question is how many other parishioners were using wifi and how fast is the church's internet. 

Michael Anda:
the setup was too slow to keep up with him, even when he wasn't switching translations.

You were trying to switch translations? That would be cumbersome, but to be fair, try doing that with a dead tree version. Wink

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 8:05 AM

biblia.com has been truncating chapters at least twice in Vyrso's Success is not an accident.  I guess there may be a limit to the size of the chapter it can download, as the book works OK in L4, and someone has found it worked on biblia.com on his computer.  Kindle does admit that the browser is experimental.  I shall use it less as  I may be missing out on great chunks of my books.  Pity, as I like the epaper.

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Dan Sheppard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 4 2011 6:54 PM

MJ. Smith:
Do I have to send mine back? I bought it for all the wrong reasons ... like books & Logos.

 

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