Best free virus software for Logos 4

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 6 2011 5:02 PM

I just got a new laptop and want to replace the Norton trial version with one of the free virus packages out there.  Are there any "gotchas" of which I should be aware?  Specifically, are there any that don't let me exclude the logos directory for every time Logos looks at a file?

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Brian K. Benscoter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 5:06 PM

Ken - not free at all, but ESET NOD32 is wonderful. Downloads updates automatically and I am never aware of the slightest slowdown while running Logos (or any other programSleep). I apologize that I do not know of any good free virus programs.  -Brian

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Brian K. Benscoter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 5:08 PM

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 5:21 PM

Kenneth McGuire:
I just got a new laptop and want to replace the Norton trial version with one of the free virus packages out there.  Are there any "gotchas" of which I should be aware?  Specifically, are there any that don't let me exclude the logos directory for every time Logos looks at a file?

Microsoft Security Essentials is free and they keep it up to date.

You can exclude the folders and/or file types.

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 5:54 PM

Kenneth McGuire:

 are there any that don't let me exclude the logos directory for every time Logos looks at a file?

Ken McGuire

What does this mean? Is there a chance my virus software is slowing down Logos? If so, how do I change this?

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 6:08 PM

Virus checkers work by looking quickly examining files for "bad stuff" before passing it on to whoever asked for it and so involve some overhead and performance loss.  Of course, this is not as much a performance hit as what some bugs can do, but it is performance loss.

Many programs have a way to say you trust certain files or types of files so they don't get a detailed look.  Of course, you should probably run a full scan on these exceptions every once in a while, but one way of making Logos run faster is by telling your virus software to make this exception.  See the wiki page http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Running_Slowly

I hope that this make sense to you...

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 8:05 PM

Thanks, does anyone know if this applies to Avast or should I look for a new AV? I know I can look but if anyone happens to know it would save me some time.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 8:36 PM

Alan Charles Gielczyk:
Thanks, does anyone know if this applies to Avast or should I look for a new AV? I know I can look but if anyone happens to know it would save me some time.

Avast Home (free) is what I am presently running on my Windows 7 Ultimate Netbook. It is free, upgrades itself automatically and has never given me any problems. I do have the settings prompt me for Logos update scripts to run.

On the Mac I haven't found a need for any anti-virus program. Should I be installing one? Indifferent

 

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 8:39 PM

Alan Charles Gielczyk:

Thanks, does anyone know if this applies to Avast or should I look for a new AV? I know I can look but if anyone happens to know it would save me some time.

Option: can open Avast interface to see number of files being scanned:

Looking at expert settings, Logos 4 files are not included (not a document extension with OLE).  After opening a layout in Logos 4, looked at files scanned (0).

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 9:32 PM

I use Security Essentials and I usually am unaware that it's doing its thing. I often click the icon in the system tray and it will sometimes say it just finished updating an hour earlier and I didn't even realize it. Big Smile Norton was like swimming through molasses. Hmm

Btw, in case you don't know, SE is a free AV+ app from Microsoft. It is supposed to be well-rated, so it should work well with your OS. (Here is where I wish there was a "crossed fingers" emoticon! Stick out tongue)

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 6 2011 9:33 PM

Super Tramp:
On the Mac I haven't found a need for any anti-virus program. Should I be installing one? Indifferent

Looking at many Security articles => http://www.computerworld.com/s/topic/17/Security noted relatively few Mac OS X articles, especially in Malware News => http://www.computerworld.com/s/topic/news/85/Malware+and+Vulnerabilities/1 Scary factor is increasing.  Article about malware PDF attachment on Mac => http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220232/New_Mac_malware_poses_as_PDF_doc?taxonomyId=85 includes observation about Mac malware is currently relatively crude compared to Windows exploits (anticipating better coding in future).  On a Mac, if being prompted to enter your password and you did not initiate software installation, then do not enter password.  One Mac OS X trojan tries to look like Adobe Flash Player (so download flash player installer from Adobe when time to update).

Found a 2012 Anti-virus review for Mac => http://mac-antivirus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

Personally have used => http://www.clamxav.com/ to see what file(s) are infected, which found some Windows stuff that was copied from a Windows virtual machine.

Avast now has a free Mac version => http://www.avast.com/mac-edition whose forum includes: "We're glad to announce a new major version of "avast! Free Antivirus for Mac". The current popularity of Apple products also makes them more interesting for the bad guys so we thought it would be good to prepare for the battle sooner rather than later."

In May 2011, a blog warned about serious malware for Mac OS X coming soon => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/coming-soon-to-a-mac-near-you-serious-malware/3212 (seems soon for serious malware is like soon for some Logos 4 Mac feature parity improvements, is taking some time since developing for Mac is bit more challenging than developing for Windows).

Apple includes Security updates => http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4657 so keeping software up to date is recommended on Mac and PC.

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 10:02 AM

I highly recommend AVG FREE 2012 or Avast!.  Both are free, Neither has ever failed to keep my machines clean.  Both autoupdate, allow you to set scan schedules, etc. etc.  When I repair or build a PC for someone I always install one of these... My preference is AVG Free 2012 for personal use, but Avast! has a slightly smaller CPU usage/RAM footprint.

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 10:08 AM

Brother Mark:
My preference is AVG Free 2012 for personal use, but Avast! has a slightly smaller CPU usage/RAM footprint.

Recently, AVG changed their initial free version to only be a link scanner.  Installing an older free version, then upgrading to 2012 includes anti-virus plus some more.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 11:02 AM

Kenneth McGuire:

I just got a new laptop and want to replace the Norton trial version with one of the free virus packages out there.  Are there any "gotchas" of which I should be aware?  Specifically, are there any that don't let me exclude the logos directory for every time Logos looks at a file?

Ken McGuire

I use Avast. By default Avast will do what it calls real time scanning.

You can tell Avast to ignore the Logos4 files when it does Real Time scanning by doing the following:
1.    Open the Avast! user interface
2.    Click on the  "Real-Time Shields" tab button (on the left).
3.    Click on the "Expert Settings" button (on the right, below the "Start" and "Stop" buttons.
4.    Enter your password in the authorization check to continue.
5.    In the window that opens click on "Exclusions" (in the column of options on the left)
6.    Click the "Add" button and enter "C:\Users\[name]\AppData\Logos4\*" (or your path to the Logos4 directory)
This will disable real time scanning anywhere in the Logos4 directory and all sub-directories. If you're concerned about monitoring possible corruption in the L4 program, you could enter individual directories to scan (e.g., Logos4\Documents\*; Loogs4\System\*; Logos4\Users\*; Logos4\Shared\*; Loogs4\Data\*; and any others you don't feel need monitoring). The advantage of disabling scanning in the entire Logos4 directory structure it's simpler to enter the data and it will keep Avast! from slowing down any aspect of L4 operation.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Daniel Arnott | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 12:50 PM

Guys - Avast is one of the poorest performing AV's out there. Just because nothing is being flagged up dosnt mean stuff isnt getting through. It isnt worth compromising your security and I would echo what Brian said and go for ESET's NOD32.

 

Dan

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 1:08 PM

Daniel Arnott:

Guys - Avast is one of the poorest performing AV's out there. Just because nothing is being flagged up dosnt mean stuff isnt getting through. It isnt worth compromising your security and I would echo what Brian said and go for ESET's NOD32.

 

Dan

ESET's NOD32 is great. Most of the churches in our denomination use it and as far as I know they are very satisfied. We have been using AVG in our church and it has always been well working (I like it since it is a Czech company) but in the recent years it started to be really demanding on the system. We changed now for Microsoft Security Essentials. Looks very promising and easy for the system. I hope it will protect our computers sufficiently.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 1:24 PM

Daniel Arnott:
Guys - Avast is one of the poorest performing AV's out there.

Can you point to any independent testing that confirms this?

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 1:28 PM

AVG

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Bill Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 1:49 PM

Richard:

There are two that I follow...

Both sites give reports on many AV programs. Avast scores fairly well in these, but it may have been worse in the past.

I use Norton at the moment and like it. We use ESET NOD32 on the church computer and like it...

http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/comparativesreviews

http://www.av-test.org/en/home

A year ago, Norton was near the top....now it is rated more in the middle on some tests... I think these programs leap frog one another. But, perhaps a high rating is a challenge to virus designers...

It seems that nowadays one must use AV and separate anti-malware software concurrently. Many of the ways that AV software fares poorly is the deeper removal of malware ofter discovery.

So, we use Malwarebytes AntiMalware in conjunction with the AV software...

 

Boy, Thomas is fast. While I was digging all this up, he was already there...

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 7 2011 1:49 PM

Check out AV-TEST -  http://www.av-test.org/en/home/ for some comparisons.

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