The Logic of Penal Substitution, J.I. Packer ***File removed to avoid potential copyright infringement***

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 20 2011 3:08 AM

[If anyone thinks I have breached any copyright laws by posting this, do speak up so I can correct my error Smile]

I came across this lengthy lecture manuscript by J.I. Packer on Penal Substitution and thought it might be a useful addition to my Logos library.  Packer states the following as his aim for the lecture:

"The task which I have set myself in this lecture is to focus and explicate a belief which, by and large, is a distinguishing mark of the word-wide evangelical fraternity: namely, the belief that the cross had the character of penal substitution, and that it was in virtue of this fact that it brought salvation to mankind."

I have done some basic formatting with the file, inserted proper footnotes and have corrected those "broken" Biblical hyperlinks I was able to find. 

The source I used to make this personal book is here.

EDIT: Thanks to KS4J's very helpful comments below, I have removed the attachment.  Apologies for any inconvenience.  I would still encourage people to look at the attached link to the source website as this looks like an excellent lecture!

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 20 2011 4:40 AM

Paul Clarke:
[If anyone thinks I have breached any copyright laws by posting this, do speak up so I can correct my error Smile]

Apologies: not know.  Concur source website does not mention Tyndale Bulletin publication, does include * in Title for Delivered at Tyndale House, Cambridge, on July 17th, 1973.  Likewise noticed lack of copyright marking on many source web site pages.

Appears Tyndale House in Cambridge holds the copyright for articles published in the Tyndale Bulletin, which are available for download from Tyndale House (in .doc and .pdf formats)

Looking at Tyndale Bulletin submission of articles => http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=submission-of-articles noticed Style Guide includes:

9. Copyright

It is the author’s responsibility to obtain permission for the quotation of any copyright material, if permission is necessary, and to ensure that appropriate acknowledgements are included in their article. Most material is protected by copyright until seventy years after the author’s death. (One exception is for photographs which were shot before the end of 1944, which are now in the public domain, whereas those taken from 1945 onwards are protected until seventy years are the photographer’s death.)

Normally it is unnecessary to obtain permission for the quotation of brief prose passages in a scholarly work (less than 400 words), but it should be obtained for any extract from a poem, play or song that is still in copyright. In general the principle of ‘fair dealing’ applies, meaning that the length of the quoted passage and the use to which it is put should be fair to the author and publisher of the work quoted, so that nothing is done to diminish the value of their publication. Complete items such as tables and illustrations must not be reproduced without permission.

The copyright of articles in the Tyndale Bulletin is held by Tyndale House, Cambridge. Should an author wish to republish their article elsewhere, or to include some or all of the material in a book, permission should be sought from the editor. This will normally be granted, so long as due acknowledgement of the original publication is made.

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 20 2011 12:19 PM

Paul Clarke:
I came across this lengthy lecture manuscript by J.I. Packer on Penal Substitution and thought it might be a useful addition to my Logos library. 

Thanks for the link to the source. It looks like an interesting read.

How are you adding it to your Logos library?

 

Have a great day,
jmac

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 20 2011 2:19 PM

Hi Jim.  You can incorporate it by making a personal book using the text.  If you're not familiar with PB's, here's the wiki link on how to do it.

Do make sure you comply with all applicable local copyright laws. WinkBig Smile

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 10:13 AM

This article was originally published in Tyndale Bulletin 25:1 (1974), which is included in Theological Journal Library, Volume 12.

Thanks for the heads up about it. After going to the trouble to convert it to a PB for myself, I found it in the TJL and bought just that volume. It's got many years worth of Tyndale Bulletin, which I decided was worth the purchase price, even though most of the other journals are not ones I would refer to. Most of the remaining years of Tyndale Bulletin are in Volume 13.

EDIT: Incidentally, Tyndale House has a blog containing summaries of all the articles in all issues from 1993 to present: http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=TyndaleBulletinArticles. And they've got the full text of all articles from Vol. 1 up to 3 years ago online for free, which is great if you already know an article title and issue number. Still good to have them in Logos for searching and cross-linking.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 10:54 AM

Rosie Perera:
This article was originally published in Tyndale Bulletin 25:1 (1974), which is included in Theological Journal Library, Volume 12.

Thanks for pointing that out Rosie.  For anyone looking here's a direct link.

What Did The Cross Achieve?: The Logic of Penal Substitution

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 12:07 PM

Is it just me, or is this way too hard to find?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 21 2011 12:55 PM

Looks like it's not tagged as Large Text. I can find it searching Entire Library, but it's the last hit when sorted by Ranked. That's very weird.

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