Prioritizing and 'starring'
I understand the concepts of prioritising and starring, but it seems to be that these two functions are semantically almost identical. A 5-star resource is surely to be prioritised above a 1-star resource.
Can I make a request for:
- (Optionally) syncing stars and priorities. I have in mind some horiztonal bars in the prioritising dialogue box. Drag something above the 5-star line to indicate it's priority and star it.
- Adding an option to hide resources below a certain star-rating. I can imagine most of the time not wanting to both with 'poor' resources, but occasionally needing to add them in. This could be achieved through being able to hide resources in a collection, of course.
- Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.
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MarkBarnes said:
Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.
I agree with this one.
My priority list is a mess....
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MarkBarnes said:
A 5-star resource is surely to be prioritised above a 1-star resource.
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing..."I like this..I'm giving it 5 starts" and then you could search just your "5 star" items...
Am I wrong?
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing..."I like this..I'm giving it 5 starts" and then you could search just your "5 star" items...
Am I wrong?
No, you are right. That is the problem that Mark is identifying.
I agree with him that large libraries would be more manageable if the star system affected prioritization.
I also find the prioritization list a bit cumbersome.
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Robert Pavich said:
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing...
It is, but my point is that it shouldn't be. If I prefer something, surely that means it ought to be a priority. If I like a resource, why should I have to star it and prioritize it?
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MarkBarnes said:Robert Pavich said:
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing...
It is, but my point is that it shouldn't be. If I prefer something, surely that means it ought to be a priority. If I like a resource, why should I have to star it and prioritize it?
But, if I give a particular issue of Christian History magazine 4 stars that does not mean that I wish to use it in passage guides (an absurd example I know).
My understanding is that starring, together with tags, and corrected metadata will help me to find items in my library. This is a different function from preferring resources for the use of guides.
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Damian McGrath said:
My understanding is that starring, together with tags, and corrected metadata will help me to find items in my library. This is a different function from preferring resources for the use of guides.
I agree on this with Damian.
Bohuslav
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Damian McGrath said:
I agree with this one.
My priority list is a mess....
Yes. and color code the resources in the list according to type.
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Philip Spitzer said:
Yes. and color code the resources in the list according to type.
According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!
Chris
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Chris Elford said:
According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!
Just trying to make Logos Happier....shall we SING!!!
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Philip Spitzer said:Chris Elford said:
According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!
Just trying to make Logos Happier....shall we SING!!!
Bob, please don't interview Philip. I couldn't stand having to see his avatar on my home page. It would drive me back to L3 and to ask for my money back!
Chris
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Belly Laughs....
(nice Avatar... I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice)
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Damian McGrath said:
(nice Avatar... I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice)
I'm glad you finally saw it. Now I can switch back :-)
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I'm not sure care bears are clean animals. Only a pagan altar would do.Damian McGrath said:I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice
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MarkBarnes said:
1. (Optionally) syncing stars and priorities. I have in mind some horiztonal bars in the prioritising dialogue box. Drag something above the 5-star line to indicate it's priority and star it.
Any programmed use of stars lies within each resource category as opposed to the whole list eg.
5 x English bibles
5 x English dictionaries
5 x Greek Lexicons
5 x Hebrew Lexicons
5 x Greek Bibles
5 x Hebrew Bibles
(optional) x Commentaries
etc.
Any 5-star line would exist within each of the above categories, so when I Add a 4-star English dictionary L4 would position it near the top of the English dictionaries I have in the list! Note that I have already rated the resource before adding to the list.
MarkBarnes said:2. Adding an option to hide resources below a certain star-rating. I can imagine most of the time not wanting to both with 'poor' resources, but occasionally needing to add them in. This could be achieved through being able to hide resources in a collection, of course.
The dynamic feature of Collections is better suited to any transient regard for a resource! If you don't like it nuke it (sorry, hide it).
MarkBarnes said:3. Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.
See my model of a Prioritize list above. When several resources cater for the same data type (eg. Greek Strong's) then you have to use the Advanced features to restrict a higher priority lexicon from "stealing" Strong's numbers away from Strong's lexicon eg.
DBL Greek [restrict to Greek data type so it does not get used for Strong's]
ANLEX
Louw-Nida
Enhanced Strong's Lexicon [this can handle Greek words but I want it primarily for Strong's]
It's possible to construct an efficient list (mine has 2 restricted resources), but it is only by trial and error that you finally get the resources to do what you want with the data types. But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.
Amen.
Can we please see a return to this level of user control?
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Damian McGrath said:Dave Hooton said:
But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.
Amen.
Can we please see a return to this level of user control?
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YES PLEASE! I beg, implore, and earnestly seek
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Robert, et. al,
This thread was from last November. (I'm currently trying to catch up.)
Are stars still distinct from "priority"? I hope so!
I have started to use stars to indicate sources with which I have spent some time and personally prefer based on prior experience.
On the other hand, I was using priority to indicate "best of breed" based on trust in the author and the opinion of others.
I can't tell if my technique is getting me what I want, but if they merge the semantics of stars and priorities they will certainly reduce my degrees of freedom.
-- David
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Yes indeed they are.DavidEgolf said:Are stars still distinct from "priority"? I hope so!
Not to worry, that's not even an idea in the mix AFAIK.DavidEgolf said:I can't tell if my technique is getting me what I want, but if they merge the semantics of stars and priorities they will certainly reduce my degrees of freedom.
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Thank you for your quick reply.
To further explain my technique, I happen to really like J. Vernon McGee. Thus, I have his commentary with lots of stars in order to grab my attention should he show up in a list. On the other hand, his approach is homolitic and I usually prefer to use more analytical resources for deep study.
Can someone suggest an alternate, perhaps better, use of the stars?
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DavidEgolf said:
Thus, I have his commentary with lots of stars in order to grab my attention should he show up in a list. On the other hand, his approach is homolitic and I usually prefer to use more analytical resources for deep study.
Depends what you are after but I would use stars in conjunction with tagging (mytag) because I rate a resource within a category eg. some commentaries (type:commentary) are really Bible Notes so I tag them as such (mytag:notes) and rate them within that category. So instead of being a one star commentary it becomes a three star notes resource.
Or you can keep the (high) rating and have separate collections for homolitic and analytical but I would tag the volumes to simplify selection eg. mytag:homolitic.
Dave
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DavidEgolf said:
Thank you for your quick reply.
To further explain my technique, I happen to really like J. Vernon McGee. Thus, I have his commentary with lots of stars in order to grab my attention should he show up in a list. On the other hand, his approach is homolitic and I usually prefer to use more analytical resources for deep study.
Can someone suggest an alternate, perhaps better, use of the stars?
Hi David, prioritization will get you what you want to make sure J. Vernon McGee's books show up higher in the list when you do a passage guide.
Generally people use stars to limit searches to only those books they've rated higher than a certain rating. The search results can be overwhelming otherwise.
To limit your search to just high-rated resources, you'd have to have spent some time starring everything appropriately first. Some people use a scheme whereby they don't have to think and decide all at once how to rate things by giving a certain rating which means "not rated yet." I assign stars as follows:
0 stars - just purchased, haven't had time to do anything with it yet (though I usually do them right away so they don't stay in this state for very long)
1 star - I really don't think this resource is very valuable and would usually chose to ignore it, but I don't dislike it enough to hide it
2 stars - the rating I assign to everything as soon as I buy it, which means basically "I don't know yet what I think of this"
3 stars - good
4 stars - very good
5 stars - outstanding, one of my favorite resourcesNow to actually do a limited search based on ratings you could use the "Search In" field to enter just a particular rating (if you wanted to search only 5 star resources, for example):
But this isn't very flexible, as it doesn't let you search through all resources with a rating of, say, 4 stars or more. To do that, you'd create a collection of all resources matching that criterion, and then select the name of that collection for the "Search In" field. Here's how you'd create such a collection. You'd use the rule rating:>=4. Here I've named this collection "Rating >= 4" but you could name it whatever you want.
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Dave Hooton said:
Or you can keep the (high) rating and have separate collections for homolitic and analytical but I would tag the volumes to simplify selection eg. mytag:homolitic.
Sorry to be a nitpicker on spelling, but in the case of this word it really matters since it's a key word one might want to search for to use in building collections, etc. It's homiletic, not homolitic. The former has to do with homilies. The latter...well, we won't go there.
(Sorry, I didn't mean to be "humilitic" -- a word I just coined -- i.e., to be embarrassing to you. [:)])
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Hi Rosie,
Thank you for your rating system. Sounds like something I will try.
In defense of Dave, I misled him by starting the misspelling of homilitic! My spell checker on FireFox didn't provide me with any help and I was the one who goofed. Thus, I am the one who should be embarrassed.
-- David
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DavidEgolf said:
In defense of Dave, I misled him
Yes, you did!
It's interesting that Martha is being bugged by non-homiletics in her Homiletics collection and FF doesn't like the spelling. So I also figured she knew what it was supposed to be[:D]
Dave
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