Prioritizing and 'starring'

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Nov 10 2009 5:46 AM

I understand the concepts of prioritising and starring, but it seems to be that these two functions are semantically almost identical. A 5-star resource is surely to be prioritised above a 1-star resource.

Can I make a request for:

  1. (Optionally) syncing stars and priorities. I have in mind some horiztonal bars in the prioritising dialogue box. Drag something above the 5-star line to indicate it's priority and star it.
  2. Adding an option to hide resources below a certain star-rating. I can imagine most of the time not wanting to both with 'poor' resources, but occasionally needing to add them in. This could be achieved through being able to hide resources in a collection, of course.
  3. Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.
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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 5:58 AM

MarkBarnes:
Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.

 

I agree with this one.

My priority list is a mess....

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 6:00 AM

MarkBarnes:
A 5-star resource is surely to be prioritised above a 1-star resource.

 

I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing..."I like this..I'm giving it 5 starts" and then you could search just your "5 star" items...

Am I wrong?

Robert Pavich

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Russ Quinn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 6:05 AM

Robert Pavich:

I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing..."I like this..I'm giving it 5 starts" and then you could search just your "5 star" items...

Am I wrong?

No, you are right. That is the problem that Mark is identifying.

I agree with him that large libraries would be more manageable if the star system affected prioritization.

I also find the prioritization list a bit cumbersome.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 6:23 AM

Robert Pavich:
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing...

It is, but my point is that it shouldn't be. If I prefer something, surely that means it ought to be a priority. If I like a resource, why should I have to star it and prioritize it?

 

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 6:27 AM

MarkBarnes:

Robert Pavich:
I thought that the "stars" was just a personal preference thing and not a program thing...

It is, but my point is that it shouldn't be. If I prefer something, surely that means it ought to be a priority. If I like a resource, why should I have to star it and prioritize it?

But, if I give a particular issue of Christian History magazine 4 stars that does not mean that I wish to use it in passage guides (an absurd example I know).

My understanding is that starring, together with tags, and corrected metadata will help me to find items in my library. This is a different function from preferring resources for the use of guides.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 12:37 PM

Damian McGrath:
My understanding is that starring, together with tags, and corrected metadata will help me to find items in my library. This is a different function from preferring resources for the use of guides.

I agree on this with Damian.

Bohuslav

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 12:44 PM

Damian McGrath:

I agree with this one.

My priority list is a mess....

Yes. and color code the resources in the list according to type.

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Chris Elford | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:13 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Yes. and color code the resources in the list according to type.

According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!

Chris

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:15 PM

Chris Elford:
According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!

Just trying to make Logos Happier....shall we SING!!!

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Chris Elford | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:19 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Chris Elford:
According to the colors on your belly? Red, Yellow, Green - sounds like a stop light!

Just trying to make Logos Happier....shall we SING!!!

Bob, please don't interview Philip. I couldn't stand having to see his avatar on my home page. It would drive me back to L3 and to ask for my money back!

Chris

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:34 PM

Belly Laughs....

 

(nice Avatar... I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice)

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:36 PM

Damian McGrath:
(nice Avatar... I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice)

I'm glad you finally saw it. Now I can switch back :-)

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 1:52 PM

Damian McGrath:
I'd allow Blogs on my home page if I could be guaranteed that picture there - preferably right next to an image of an altar of sacrifice
I'm not sure care bears are clean animals.  Only a pagan altar would do.

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 2:47 PM

MarkBarnes:
1.  (Optionally) syncing stars and priorities. I have in mind some horiztonal bars in the prioritising dialogue box. Drag something above the 5-star line to indicate it's priority and star it.

Any programmed use of stars lies within each resource category as opposed to the whole list eg.

5 x English bibles

5 x English dictionaries

5 x Greek Lexicons

5 x Hebrew Lexicons

5 x Greek Bibles

5 x Hebrew Bibles

(optional) x Commentaries

etc.

Any 5-star line would exist within each of the above categories, so when I Add a 4-star English dictionary L4 would position it near the top of the English dictionaries I have in the list! Note that I have already rated the resource before adding to the list.

MarkBarnes:
2.  Adding an option to hide resources below a certain star-rating. I can imagine most of the time not wanting to both with 'poor' resources, but occasionally needing to add them in. This could be achieved through being able to hide resources in a collection, of course.

The dynamic feature of Collections is better suited to any transient regard for a resource! If you don't like it nuke it (sorry, hide it).

MarkBarnes:
3.  Allowing us to filter by datatype and/or collections when prioritising resources. With a large library (mine is 3,587) it's almost impossible to make sense of the priority list. But if I could filter by commentaries or dictionaries, etc. it would make my life much easier.

See my model of a Prioritize list above. When several resources cater for the same data type (eg. Greek Strong's) then you have to use the Advanced features to restrict a higher priority lexicon from "stealing" Strong's numbers away from Strong's lexicon eg.

DBL Greek   [restrict to Greek data type so it does not get used for Strong's]

ANLEX

Louw-Nida

Enhanced Strong's Lexicon [this can handle Greek words but I want it primarily for Strong's]

It's possible to construct an efficient list (mine has 2 restricted resources), but it is only by trial and error that you finally get the resources to do what you want with the data types. But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.

Dave
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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 4:31 PM

Dave Hooton:
But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.

Amen.

Can we please see a return to this level of user control?

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Todd Anson Wilkins | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 23 2009 6:50 AM

Damian McGrath:

Dave Hooton:
But L3 is much more tailorable with its focus on data types.

Amen.

Can we please see a return to this level of user control?

Normal 0 YES PLEASE! I beg, implore, and earnestly seek more control with data types and resources!

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David A Egolf | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 7:47 PM

Robert, et. al,

This thread was from last November. (I'm currently trying to catch up.)

Are stars still distinct from "priority"?  I hope so! 

I have started to use stars to indicate sources with which I have spent some time and personally prefer based on prior experience.

On the other hand, I was using priority to indicate "best of breed" based on trust in the author and the opinion of others. 

I can't tell if my technique is getting me what I want, but if they merge the semantics of stars and priorities they will certainly reduce my degrees of freedom.

-- David

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 7:59 PM

 

DavidEgolf:
Are stars still distinct from "priority"? I hope so!
Yes indeed they are.  
DavidEgolf:
I can't tell if my technique is getting me what I want, but if they merge the semantics of stars and priorities they will certainly reduce my degrees of freedom.

Not to worry, that's not even an idea in the mix AFAIK.

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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David A Egolf | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 8:09 PM

Thank you for your quick reply.

To further explain my technique, I happen to really like J. Vernon McGee.  Thus, I have his commentary with lots of stars in order to grab my attention should he show up in a list.  On the other hand, his approach is homolitic and I usually prefer to use more analytical resources for deep study.

Can someone suggest an alternate, perhaps better, use of the stars?

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