Princeton Theological Review (443 issues) - initial price too high
http://www.logos.com/product/17817/princeton-theological-review
Let's bid it to something under 50 :-)
Thanks.
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Timothy Ha said:
Let's bid it to something under 50 :-)
Considering 65,000 pages of journal articles by many well known authors, $ 50 would be an awesome bargain (with 95 % discount compared to hardcopy purchase).
Suggest bidding what willing to pay; personally bid more than $ 50.
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Page count really counts for prices, but I cannot read and really use the whole collection, so USD 50 here is like paying for
a) a searchable amount of documents
b) access to some works by favorite authors
Maybe Logos will some day have subscription-based access to their vast library (this depends on the publishers of course), like Amazon Prime. But for now I can only spend like this on CP collections.
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Timothy Ha said:
Page count really counts for prices
Page count also affects estimated production cost, which needs to be covered by Logos user community bidding for resource to be produced.
Personally prefer 90 % or higher discount for resources. For this set of journals, a bid of $ 100 has a 90 % discount.
To cover 100% of estimated production costs: bidding $ 50 needs twice as many users to bid as $ 100. With over 65,000 pages, lots of user bids are needed.
Timothy Ha said:Maybe Logos will some day have subscription-based access to their vast library
Since this resource is in community pricing, if enough user bids are placed to cover 100% of estimated production, then Logos would have option to offer subscription-based access to these public domain journals (not need publisher permission, but would need software changes to enable subscriptions).
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Yep, but Logos is a profitable company, so revenue from other resources will help these CP things come to life, even if they're priced at USD 50 for 65000 pages.
Also here they have more of a proof-reading and resource tagging work, than scanning, I hope.
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Logos can pay for different levels of accuracy for typos.
Wonder what level would be usable for these journals ? 98.0 % 99.0 % 99.5 % 99.95 % 99.995%
Higher level of accuracy costs more, but has fewer typographical errors per page.
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I can't believe Logos is offering this. I am so excited. I like the $50 bid idea but I think $100 is more likely to get it done. I am in at $100.
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Interesting. The current strike price is $225. I was in for $50. As an experiment, I upped my bid to $200, and the strike price went down to $200. I moved down to $175 and the strike price went back up to $225. I'm back down to $100 for now. I think that's a fair price. Ideally it would be great if we could get enough bidders at $50 to bring it down to that, but I'm not sure how likely that is.
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current price now is $100 - I bid $50...
Have joy in the Lord!
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Yep I bid 50$ !
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OK, I lowered mine to $50. It's going to take twice as many bidders now, but if we get excited enough about it early on (look how low $50 is on the scale of what it could be), maybe we'll do it.
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Rosie Perera said:
OK, I lowered mine to $50. It's going to take twice as many bidders now, but if we get excited enough about it early on (look how low $50 is on the scale of what it could be), maybe we'll do it.
OK, I've followd suit at $50.
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Likewise lowered bid; will be interesting to watch resource progress. Current projected price is $ 50, which is an awesome 95 % discount; yet needs a lot more Logos users to bid.
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With all the talk generated already maybe we can get this pushed through at $50, lowered my bid too.
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WOW, it's 50 now :-) Thanks, everybody.
$50.00
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You bid $50.00 on 3/15/2012.JesusChrist.ru - Russian Christian Portal, with free Bible software; Timh.ru - blog
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Timothy Ha said:
WOW, it's 50 now :-) Thanks, everybody.
$50.00
Retail:$999.95
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You bid $50.00 on 3/15/2012.Bummer! Someone just bid it back up to $100. Just when I was preparing an appeal to all Presbyterians out there to bid on it at $50.
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It's at $50 again.
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I have FB-ed and tweeted about this collection now, even though my readers are Russian speaking. But there are Logos users among them.
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Rosie Perera said:
I was preparing an appeal to all Presbyterians out there to bid on it at $50.
Does this mean that a bid from this Baptist is not welcome? [:D]
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I am in at 50.
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Jack Caviness said:Rosie Perera said:
I was preparing an appeal to all Presbyterians out there to bid on it at $50.
Does this mean that a bid from this Baptist is not welcome?
Totally welcome. I just figured Presbyterians would get more excited about it since it's from "their" seminary: Princeton.
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In at $50.
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Merely clarifying ""their" seminary: Princeton" - Though there are exceptions, us in the PCA "now" tend more toward RTS, WTS, Covenant, vs. the PCUSA which tends more towards Princeton, etc. (of course there are other Presbyterian denoms - OPC, etc. that do not tend toward Princeton "now" either ...)
But these works are the older Presbyterian writings (OLD Princeton - Warfield, Hodge, Vos, etc.), .... some of which are basically in other resources .... so, I am in at $25, but $425 (someone is joking).
Rosie Perera said:Jack Caviness said:Rosie Perera said:I was preparing an appeal to all Presbyterians out there to bid on it at $50.
Does this mean that a bid from this Baptist is not welcome?
Totally welcome. I just figured Presbyterians would get more excited about it since it's from "their" seminary: Princeton.
Yours In Christ
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[Y] I'm in at $50.
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It would be nice if Logos sent e-mails to Logos users to advice to bid... who wouln't like to get this one? Tremendous resources, it's almost an obligation to get this one for 50$ :-)
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R & r said:
Merely clarifying ""their" seminary: Princeton" - Though there are exceptions, us in the PCA "now" tend more toward RTS, WTS, Covenant, vs. the PCUSA which tends more towards Princeton, etc. (of course there are other Presbyterian denoms - OPC, etc. that do not tend toward Princeton "now" either ...)
Yes, I know there are more Presbyterian seminaries now. But back when this was in publication (1825-1929) that was the main (old school) one. It was before the split.
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I'm in at $50.00.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I am in at $50
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While I am sure it will be a good deal, I think the description needs some work. It looks like some book reviews are listed as the book itself. E.g. I doubt that the Complete works of Jonathon Edwards really was in one issue...
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I just bid $150. I wonder if we can get enough at the $50 mark. I hope so but I am willing to pay more
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Bid $25. I'd love to have it, just not possible for me at $50.
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I'm in at $50 too. It's encouraging that we've been - so far at least - able to set a modest trend price for this resource which will hopefully encourage others to join in.
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I put my $50 bid in.
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Paul Clarke said:
I'm in at $50 too. It's encouraging that we've been - so far at least - able to set a modest trend price for this resource which will hopefully encourage others to join in.
for some reason I did see a small upward bump in the line at 50 earlier today, indicating this trend - now it's flat.
Everyone check the current status (and bid if you haven't) here: http://www.logos.com/product/17817/princeton-theological-review
Have joy in the Lord!
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I am in at $50
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I bid my $50 and I am now IPad 3rd generation poor and still have to buy a case. But those issues should be awesome! So go for it at $50! At $100 I'm outta da game.
Blessings to all,
In Christ,
E.
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I am in for $50 ! How about a bid of $40 for John Gill now!
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Jacob Hantla said:
I just bid $150. I wonder if we can get enough at the $50 mark. I hope so but I am willing to pay more
Here is a classic case of when a product doesn't make it into publication because people have an unrealistic expectation as to what it costs to get it into production.
http://www.logos.com/product/8567/new-schaff-herzog-encyclopedia-of-religious-knowledge
If you are willing to pay more for a product, you should be willing to bid more!
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Robert G. Mettler said:
Here is a classic case of when a product doesn't make it into publication because people have an unrealistic expectation as to what it costs to get it into production.
http://www.logos.com/product/8567/new-schaff-herzog-encyclopedia-of-religious-knowledge
Noticed $ 30 bids are 94 % discount compared to hard copy for New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, which has 6,328 pages. If the $ 30 bids were raised to $ 50, which is a 90 % discount, then community pricing progress would be bit over 70 %. Either way, many more Logos user bids are needed.
Looking at http://www.logos.com/product/17817/princeton-theological-review noticed $ 50 hump is growing, albeit needs many, many more Logos user bids of $ 50 (or more) to cover 100 % of estimated cost for over 65,000 pages. Concur $ 50 closing would be an awesome bargain along with lots of potential search use in Logos Bible Software.
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Noticed $ 30 bids are 94 % discount compared to hard copy for New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, which has 6,328 pages. If the $ 30 bids were raised to $ 50, which is a 90 % discount, then community pricing progress would be bit over 70 %. Either way, many more Logos user bids are needed.
I'm in at $45 on this one. It's significantly higher than where the hump is, but it doesn't help make that hump any higher.
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I've just decided to follow Logos's advice and I pinned it on a new Pinterest board I created for "Digital Books I Want":
http://pinterest.com/rosieperera/digital-books-i-want/
Follow me on Pinterest and repin it. It's one of the fastest growing social networking sites. heard recently that Pinterest is now driving more sales than even Google.
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Don't forget to promote this on your social networks - especially if your friends, fans, etc., include pastors or seminary students. This really is a good deal if we can get it for $50.
Blessings,
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Rosie Perera said:
Follow me on Pinterest and repin it.
Wonder if Logos approves pinning of product page image(s) on Pinterest ?
Noticed http://www.logos.com/product/17817/princeton-theological-review includes: "© 1992-2012 Logos Bible Software. All rights reserved." footer
Follow-up to article => http://ddkportraits.com/2012/02/why-i-tearfully-deleted-my-pinterest-inspiration-boards/ about personal legal liabilities on pinterest.
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Rosie Perera said:
Follow me on Pinterest and repin it.
Wonder if Logos approves pinning of product page image(s) on Pinterest ?
Good to be alert about that concern, but Logos asked us to pin things on Pinterest to help spread the word. That's why I did it, and that's what I'd said in my post above.
From the blog entry I linked to:
You set the price!
It’s up to you. We’re putting this on Community Pricing, where you set the price. After you place your bid, there are all kinds of ways to get others on board and lower the price!
- “Like” it on Facebook.
- Tweet it.
- Discuss it in the forums.
- Email it to your friends and coworkers.
- Write the link on a whiteboard at school.
- Add a screenshot to your Pinterest board.
- Make and wear a sandwich board.
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Thank you for making us aware of this site "Pinterest". I was not aware of it.
And I saw the studio pictures which were in fact beautiful.
Ergatees
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Rosie Perera said:
I've just decided to follow Logos's advice and I pinned it on a new Pinterest board I created for "Digital Books I Want":
http://pinterest.com/rosieperera/digital-books-i-want/
Follow me on Pinterest and repin it. It's one of the fastest growing social networking sites. heard recently that Pinterest is now driving more sales than even Google.
I repinned it. Thanks Rosie
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I wish I had had access to these when I was doing my PhD work at SBTS. I spent a lot of hours scouring tables of content in the physical copies at the library while doing research on Machen for a seminar paper. I've been in at $50 since it was announced, but it looks like it may take a while to get it into production.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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I really think it would be better for everyone to bid 70$ so it will be quicker and still is very valuable for that price. I'll still buy at 70$.
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You know at $100 that's less than 25¢ an issue, I'm in at $100.
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Alan Charles Gielczyk said:
You know at $100 that's less than 25$¢ an issue, I'm in at $100.
$100 is probably the minimum price it'll require in order to cover the production cost. At $50 we'd need a lot more people to participate in Community Pricing, and it could take many years. So for those of you pushing for $50, you need to make sure you're getting 10 friends who don't use CP to jump on board and place a bid (and they need to bring 10 friends too)! Otherwise, moving your bids up to $100 is in everyone's best interest.
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