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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012 6:21 AM

Is there any official word as to why the Classic Commentary set on Revelation is green on our orders page but red still on the product page?  I think that this could be misleading to any new people wanting to get in.  Some might go in for $50 if they realized that they could get it for that, but seeing $160 as the presumed price might be a turn off.  I am just curious since it has been this way for a little while now.  Thanks!

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Kent Hendricks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 7:37 AM

The price is still $160. It looks like it bumped down to $50 briefly and then back up to $160. We'll look into why the price didn't update on your orders page.

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 8:43 AM

Here is the link

http://www.logos.com/product/8522/classic-commentaries-and-studies-on-revelation

 

They look virtually neck and neck - probably just another few bids at most to get this down to $50.

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Alex Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 9:45 AM

Someone is still adding bids at $160.  Yesterday $50 and $160 were virtually even.  Today $160 is noticeably higher if you've been following it.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 9:49 AM

It will take more than 3x the number of people bidding at $50 to cross the finish line of those bidding $160. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 9:51 AM

Also, remember that every $160 bidder is also a $50 bidder. 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:07 AM

alabama24:

Also, remember that every $160 bidder is also a $50 bidder. 

Yep, and every time someone bids $160, we're gonna need 3 more $50 bids to make up for it. Sad

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:15 AM

Todd Phillips:
Yep, and every time someone bids $160, we're gonna need 3 more $50 bids to make up for it.

That's true wether or not someone bids at $160 or not. I don't have a dog in this fight, and I certainly understand y'all wanting to pay $50 rather than $160. Ultimately it doesn't matter what happens at the $160 level as long as people enough people keep bidding at the $50 level.

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:22 AM

The $50 has been steadily rising and the $160 has been declining so I think it's just a matter of time - shouldn't be long either I don't think.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:22 AM

alabama24:

Todd Phillips:
Yep, and every time someone bids $160, we're gonna need 3 more $50 bids to make up for it.

That's true wether or not someone bids at $160 or not. I don't have a dog in this fight, and I certainly understand y'all wanting to pay $50 rather than $160. Ultimately it doesn't matter what happens at the $160 level as long as people enough people keep bidding at the $50 level.

Oh, my point was that people want to get the $50 point higher than the $160 point in the short term so that the estimated final price shown drops to $50. I guess the $50 point was briefly higher, but then $160 easily jumped back over.

It'd be nice to have this in production, but I'm mostly here for the entertainment:  It's $50 vs. $160...who will win?

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:29 AM

$50 has made significant progress and continues to climb. The $160 has been slowly coming down ... I don't think it's a question of which one will win, but how quickly the $160 bidders realize they are just slowing down its production.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:33 AM

Todd Phillips:
but I'm mostly here for the entertainment:  It's $50 vs. $160...who will win?

Very funny Todd. You brought a smile to my face Smile

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:40 AM

Dean053:
I don't think it's a question of which one will win, but how quickly the $160 bidders realize they are just slowing down its production.

How are the $160 bidders slowing down production? Every $160 bid is also a $50 bid. On the other hand, none of the $50 bidders are also $160 bidders (by definition). If 100% of the $160 bidders lowered their bids to $50, the $50 mark would not rise one single bit! It would not be one inch closer to the finish line. Why? Because ALL $160 bidders are already $50 bidders

Your strategy should stop being about the $160 bidders, and all about getting brand new $50 bidders, (and lots of them).

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:44 AM

My concern is that the $50 option never went green on the product page, even though it was, and still is on the orders page.  People who do not understand the process will automatically be drawn to the one that it says will likely make it ($160 in this case).  This seems like a ploy to get more $160 bidders, and to push out the $50 bids.  If it is green on my orders page, then it should be green on the product page.  It is almost like subliminal marketing.  It is not the end of the world if I can't get this, but it certainly seems reasonable that it could be gotten for $50 as opposed to $160.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:47 AM

Joseph Turner:
My concern is that the $50 option never went green on the product page, even though it was, and still is on the orders page. 

Thread => Classic Revelation shows green on Orders Page at $50 includes an example of $ 40 bid for being green on => https://www.logos.com/user/orders for Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) that is still green today (when should be red to match community pricing page since $ 40 is currently not the projected price).

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:47 AM

alabama24:

Dean053:
I don't think it's a question of which one will win, but how quickly the $160 bidders realize they are just slowing down its production.

How are the $160 bidders slowing down production? Every $160 bid is also a $50 bid. On the other hand, none of the $50 bidders are also $160 bidders (by definition). If 100% of the $160 bidders lowered their bids to $50, the $50 mark would not rise one single bit! It would not be one inch closer to the finish line. Why? Because ALL $160 bidders are already $50 bidders

Your strategy should stop being about the $160 bidders, and all about getting brand new $50 bidders, (and lots of them).

The idea is that bidding will increase if the peak is $50 rather than $160. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 10:59 AM

Dean053:
The idea is that bidding will increase if the peak is $50 rather than $160. 

I don't know how much of this is true. I bid only on things I want, and only on prices I want. If I wanted this set (I don't), I would bid the amount is was worth to me. If that is $160, I would bid that amount. If it were $50, I would bid $50. What does it matter if the peak is $160? Its not like I have anything to lose! If I am in at $50, I am in at $50. If I lose, I lose. The peak should have no bearing on anyone's decision to bid or not bid.

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Aaron Dutton (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 11:08 AM

Joseph Turner:

Is there any official word as to why the Classic Commentary set on Revelation is green on our orders page but red still on the product page?  I think that this could be misleading to any new people wanting to get in.  Some might go in for $50 if they realized that they could get it for that, but seeing $160 as the presumed price might be a turn off.  I am just curious since it has been this way for a little while now.  Thanks!

Looking at the website code, we use two slightly different calculations on the different pages.  They are usually the same but in this case, it appears that the product teetering on the edge of 50/160 causes it to work incorrectly.  We'll see if we can figure out the cause of the difference.

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Kent Hendricks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 11:08 AM

alabama24:

If 100% of the $160 bidders lowered their bids to $50, the $50 mark would not rise one single bit! 

Also, if a small percentage of $50 bidders raised their bids to $160, this would already have crossed 100%.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 10 2012 11:11 AM

Thanks! 

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