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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 4:52 PM

Very interesting point, Frank.  And Josh, I think you live in the 1st century (that's a compliment).


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RGP | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 5:14 PM

Josh,

It is amazing how your Light has exposed and has brought into public focus the darkness that exists in many hearts.

How deeply troubling it is to see dear precious souls either denying or not fully affirming the blessed and glorious Revelation of who the True God is! may God open the eyes of many to understand the wonderful scene when the Holy Spirit descended upon the Son and the Father spoke to the Son, it was then on the banks of the jordan river where the Glory of the triune God began to be fully seen. That is THE Begining of Gods full self Revelation very early in the first century.

Robert.

 

 

 

 

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David Hilty | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 6:11 PM

Personally, I'd rather not see this ad in BSM. I realize that there is a gray area involved in deciding what ads to accept, but I think the group behind this ad is clearly heretical. It would be nice to see the folks at BSM take a stand and choose to not run the ad. 

Just my opinion, and I'm not going to make a big deal about it. 

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 6:39 PM

Purely because it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, I'd like to express my affection for and appreciation of pie.

 

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George | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 6:57 PM

Pastor Jesse Blevins:

Maybe it will take some people cancelling their subscription to the magazine. 

I have thought about ordering it but not now or as long as thesetypes of ads are bein g placed in it.

The magazine has the right to publish any adds it wants.  I also have the right not to subscribe to it.  I was about to renew my subscription but I think I'll just pass.

George

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 7:38 PM

Brother Mark:
Purely because it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, I'd like to express my affection for and appreciation of pie.

I like pie.

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Bill Coley | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 25 2012 8:35 PM

Paul Miller:

You are correct, and I have been disrespectful of the rules of the forum regarding theological issues.  I respectfully withdraw from discussion, and beg your and others pardon.

However, I hope the advertisement of the magazine everywhere on the softwares website does not confuse others like myself.  I was honestly unaware that this was not the proper place, as I purchased my magazine subscription during checkout of buying additional parts of the software.  I will read the forum rules and be more aware next time.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone or have seemed uncharitable.

 

Paul,

Thank you for this gracious and thoughtful response to my prior post.

In case I didn't make myself clear before, I indeed honor and respect the passion you hold for the Trinity.

Blessings,

Bill

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 4:59 AM

DMB:

Very interesting point, Frank.  And Josh, I think you live in the 1st century (that's a compliment).

I was going to comment about this last night but other things were going on, anywho:

FYI - The doctrine was not first century, it was later when it was made a Law. If Josh was living in the first century he would be more of a Restorationist, but in either case it is out of place.

Thanks.

 

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 5:45 AM

Paul Golder:

Brother Mark:
Purely because it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, I'd like to express my affection for and appreciation of pie.

I like pie.

starting to calculate pie to  400 places 

   3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406
286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408
128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128
475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141
273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548
82046652138414695194151160949


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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:30 AM

This sort of discussion is best suited for Faithlife. I just created a discussion group called  "Discussion of the Trinity". I am automatically listed as the Administrator. If anyone desires to relieve me of this role, it would be most welcome.

Faithlife is the place for discussions where we can discuss theology. We asked Logos for a forum for this purpose, so lets use it for that purpose.

Anyone can create a group for discussion on various matters. https://faithlife.com/discussion-of-the-trinity 

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:46 AM

Paul Golder:

Brother Mark:
Purely because it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, I'd like to express my affection for and appreciation of pie.

I like pie.

 

But do you like pi pie? I prefer pecan pie. (And that's puh khan for you that don't know better)

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:48 AM

Room4More ... I was referring to Josh's insistance on what he considered to be critical to belief. Don't know about your church, but at the ones I attend, it's not acceptable to discuss theology for fear of offending. All my Christian friends avoid talking about what they believe.

Getting back to Logos,  I'm currently reading resources on the early church. What impresses me is the assumption that believers in later centuries had a monopoly on these type of discussions. I wouldn't be surprised if the same issue were in the 1st century since it's so obvious.

I also think the pie discussion is in contrast to Josh; it's clearly meant to offend him.


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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:52 AM

Lynden Williams:

 I just created a discussion group called  "Discussion of the Trinity".  

Anyone can create a group for discussion on various matters. https://faithlife.com/discussion-of-the-trinity 

I am in, already left a question. You can transfer me if you so desire.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:55 AM

Done.

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:05 AM

Brad Fry:

Paul Golder:

Brother Mark:
Purely because it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, I'd like to express my affection for and appreciation of pie.

I like pie.

But do you like pi pie? I prefer pecan pie. (And that's puh khan for you that don't know better)

Yes Big Smile And I love Pecan Pie

By the way, if you wanted to calculate pi to any digit you can use the Bailey, Borwein, Plouffe formula:

Pi = SUMk=0 to infinity 16-k [ 4/(8k+1) - 2/(8k+4) - 1/(8k+5) - 1/(8k+6) ]

(doesn't work with puh khans though Wink)

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:05 AM

Lynden Williams:

Done.

Thanks.

I made a post on faithlife.com beta for the need to add 'edit' / 'quote' buttons...

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:28 AM

DMB:

Room4More ... I was referring to Josh's insistance on what he considered to be critical to belief. Don't know about your church, but at the ones I attend, it's not acceptable to discuss theology for fear of offending. All my Christian friends avoid talking about what they believe.

Getting back to Logos,  I'm currently reading resources on the early church. What impresses me is the assumption that believers in later centuries had a monopoly on these type of discussions. I wouldn't be surprised if the same issue were in the 1st century since it's so obvious.

I also think the pie discussion is in contrast to Josh; it's clearly meant to offend him.

thanks for the comment. I was brought up that one should understand what they believe and be able to explain what they believe based on 1 Peter 3:15. Also interesting concerning the ECF was how they also used 'dirty politics'. Yes, I would have to agree about having a piece of pumkpin pie....

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 1:28 PM

DMB:
I also think the pie discussion is in contrast to Josh; it's clearly meant to offend him.

While I suspect it was an honest attempt to derail the debate since nothing else had worked, I do agree its not the best mechanism. The moving of the debate to Faithlife was a very good idea that I wish I had thought of.

DMB:
it's not acceptable to discuss theology for fear of offending.

Luckily, this is not true at my parish nor at the cathedral. We tend to have the attitude "he's a pig-headed fool but he's my pig-headed brother in Christ so don't you pick on him." But, like siblings, we continue to argue with the pig-headed fool - think large raucous, argumentative family kept safe by parental boundaries.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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PetrosD | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 2:39 PM

Goodness,what a lot of heat (and fire) and precious little light! Please do remember that Jesus prayed we would show we are His disciples and that He was who He said He was by our love for one another, not our love for doctrine. The early church impressed the people around them by their LOVE for one another not by their correctness of doctrine.

History is littered with the bodies of brothers and sisters who have died over an abundance of love of doctrine and an absence of the love Jesus prayed for.

Consider this: Will marking others in a public forum using Guilt by Association or being an Inquisitor cause the ad to be unprinted? What's done is done. The ad cannot be unprinted. But the accusation and judgement  will stay long after the slightly sweet taste pride and ego gives the satisfaction of the accusation.

Peace and Grace :)

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 3:16 PM

MJ ... your ability to discuss among 'family' is nice.

I was talking with the Lutheran leader here and he was laughing that his Lutheran church had few Lutherans. Our evangelical church had a ladies luncheon the other day and it's always a pleasant surprise to hear which denomination they kind of follow. Each is unique. A month back a large Baptist church was meeting with the Catholics in the new Catholic church building and invited us. Mainly just to understand each other. Each year our protestant churches get together with the synogogue to do 'good works' as they call it. And so people can't get too wound up.


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