Writing Sermon notes in Logos

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 25 2012 5:56 AM

Can anyone point me to some information on using a note file to produce my sermon outline? I'm trying to keep my notes in Logos instead of writing them in Word, but the formatting options seem fairly limited. I would like to use a combination of bullet points and numbered lists. Is this possible?

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 6:36 AM

I would say its possibly just like its possible to push your car from LA to NY. I wouldn't do it because of the pain associated, but its possible.

Reasons to do so - you have your notes in searchable form in Logos.

Reasons to not do so - the notes feature is slow and you don't have all the formatting features you get in a good word processor

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 6:44 AM

Kevin, I'm seeing what you mean. However, I going to give it a try. I have found how to incorporate bulleted numbers with bullet points. And I'm using a new note for each major point. I think I can make it work. It's surprising that a program as powerful as Logos does not have at least some basic formatting features. 

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:03 AM

Kevin Maples:
I'm trying to keep my notes in Logos instead of writing them in Word,

Just last week I saw a video on using logos for Expository preaching in a 5 day prep cycle. In one of the videos he showed that he writes his sermon in Word then cuts and paste into Logos Notes so that it will be searchable in Logos. I thought this was a best of both worlds solution.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:06 AM

Kevin, welcome to the forum. Your refrain is our motto! 'Give it a try.'

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:13 AM

David, That's good advice. I may try that if I can't live with the limited formatting in Logos notes. Was that a free video online somewhere? I love to watch it if it's available. 

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:34 AM

It is true that the notes feature is lacking, but they [HQ] has already gave exhaustive comment on the issue. A lot of the things we want require a mega data of Word type macro's, which in essence requires a 'word processor' application - which, again HQ has commented that it does not foresee it happening in the near future.....

hope this helps...

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Mark O'Hearn | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:47 AM

Kevin perhaps you should consider composing your sermons with Word, then afterwards import them into Logos as a Personal Book.  This is what I have been doing.  Well, actually, I create the document in Word, export it to my Kindle (which I use when delivering messages), and add it into my growing list of sermons in my personal sermons book in Logos 4.  In this way, I can include my previous sermons in my Logos searches.

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 7:54 AM

Mark, creating a personal book of sermon notes is a great idea. I may try to compile my past sermons that way. Were you able to link individual sermons in your book to the Bible text? That is one of the main reasons I would like to try to compose my notes as a note file. 

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 8:15 AM

Wouldn't it be better to write the notes in Word, then import them to Logos as a Personal Book?

EDIT: Oops, I posted this before seeing Mark's reply. That's what I get for not refreshing the page.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 8:34 AM

mitchellisdumb:

Wouldn't it be better to write the notes in Word, then import them to Logos as a Personal Book?

Yes, you could. But then you would like how many little PB's, but you could keep updateing the one(1) PB with a sequence of notes.....kinda like an 'autobiographical sermon's preached' thingiee

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 8:38 AM

Kevin Maples:

Mark, creating a personal book of sermon notes is a great idea. I may try to compile my past sermons that way. Were you able to link individual sermons in your book to the Bible text? That is one of the main reasons I would like to try to compose my notes as a note file. 

That's what I do.  You just need to be careful to put Bible references in your notes in the right format (for example, use the full reference rather than just a verse number). Like Kevin, I found the notes option too painful.  I keep all my sermon material in one Personal Book, although I will probably need to work out a better approach as time goes by, as it'll become huge. If you're citing something in your sermon that exists elsewhere in your Logos library, it's also worth putting a hyperlink into your Word document to it. 


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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 8:43 AM

Kevin Maples:
Were you able to link individual sermons in your book to the Bible text?

I'm not Mark, but the answer is yes. You might want to consult this superb Wiki article Personal Books

GregW:
just need to be careful to put Bible references in your notes in the right format (for example, use the full reference rather than just a verse number

In those cases, just add a Bible datatype link [[Bible:Jn 3:16]] most Bible links are created automatically, which means you don’t need to tag them {from the above mentioned Wiki Article}

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 9:15 AM

Jack, thanks for the help. I know you can link scripture references, but can you link an entire sermon like you can a note file? For example, if I publish a personal book with a series of sermons on John, can I link the first sermon to John 1:1-4? I don't know if I can or can't, but that is what I really liked about putting the sermon outline into a notes file. 

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 9:37 AM

If by  "link' you mean seeing an indicator of some sort that the personal book containing a sermon on John 1:1-4 exists; the answer is no. What you could do is creat your note file selecting reference (rather than selection) in your preferred bible (e.g. John 1:1-4). In that note file insert a hyperlink to the personal book you have created. Anytime you have a bible or some other resource tagged with a bible milestone to John 1:1-4 you will see the note indicator. If you clikc that indicator it will open the note you created and you can open the PB simply by clicking the hyperlink you created.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 9:38 AM

Kevin Maples:
Was that a free video online somewhere? I love to watch it if it's available. 

Here is the link to Day 5 where I got the "copy your final outline/manuscript into L4 Notes" idea: http://youtu.be/l8t9GTjqsnE [the helpful portion (as it relates to L4 technique) begins at about 1:45 into the video.]

Here is the link to the Forum Thread where I found out about the series and others make comments on the usefulness of the videos: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/48938/362445.aspx#362445

 

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GregW | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 25 2012 2:06 PM

EDIT: sorry - just realised what I had written previously was wrong!

Fredc:

If by  "link' you mean seeing an indicator of some sort that the personal book containing a sermon on John 1:1-4 exists; the answer is no. What you could do is creat your note file selecting reference (rather than selection) in your preferred bible (e.g. John 1:1-4). In that note file insert a hyperlink to the personal book you have created. Anytime you have a bible or some other resource tagged with a bible milestone to John 1:1-4 you will see the note indicator. If you clikc that indicator it will open the note you created and you can open the PB simply by clicking the hyperlink you created.

I just did an experiment and if you put the reference to your passage in the docx file (I added "John 1:1-4" in a test milestones document) then it will show up in a basic search of either the whole passage or any individual range or verse in the range referred to.  Not as good as having it in the Passage Guide, but better than a kick in the teeth. 

 

 

 


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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 26 2012 7:10 AM

Wat you said is true. Also be aware that if you have verse references in a PB tagged with bible verse milestones you can link your pb with other open resources (i.e. bibles, commentaries, etc). So as you scroll through one linked resource, all of the other open linked resources follow.  

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 26 2012 10:24 AM

I would watch Morris Proctor's tutorials on Personal Books http://www.mpseminars.com/videos

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 26 2012 1:04 PM

Philana Crouch:

I would watch Morris Proctor's tutorials on Personal Books http://www.mpseminars.com/videos

AgreedYes They are very helpful

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