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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jul 5 2012 4:37 PM

Does any one know if the Torah is in Logos?  I have the Platinum version.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 4:40 PM

Welcome to the forums. Are you looking for a particular version? It is included in the Hebrew language Bibles, the Tanakh translations of the JPS and in all Bible translations that include the Old Testament.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 5:28 PM

The new The Contemporary Torah by David E. S. Stein is available too.

 

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Jack Hairston | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 5:29 PM

Susan W. Murphy:

Does any one know if the Torah is in Logos?

Welcome, Susan! You're in luck. "Torah" is the first five books of the Old Testament, also known as the Books of Moses.

As Martha said, these books are available in many translations for your convenience.

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 5:54 PM

I know that the Torah is the first 5 books of the Bible, but I wondering if the Hebrew Torah is a little different from our regular Bibles.

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 6:18 PM

There are differences even between the Jewish and Samaritan manuscripts. The JPS translation is probably the closest to what you need.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 6:47 PM

Susan, as MJ notes, JPS has their own translation that sticks with the Massorete tradition.

http://www.logos.com/product/384/tanakh-the-holy-scriptures

I really love this resource because it includes all the translation notes, many of which you won't find in the other translations. Especially the presumed emendations. Of course it's the Tanakh which includes the Torah.

An earlier one in 1917 is also available (both $10). If you check the internet, some prefer the earlier translation. I don't think it has the notes but not sure on that.

http://www.logos.com/product/5680/tanakh

 

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Susan Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 7:21 PM

Thanks for this info.  I'm planning to get one of these.

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 5 2012 9:10 PM

DMB:
An earlier one in 1917 is also available (both $10). If you check the internet, some prefer the earlier translation. I don't think it has the notes but not sure on that.

Looking in Genesis 1, noticed 1917 Tanakh lacks footnotes while 1985 Tanakk has a few, but the 2006 NET Bible has many (12 in the first two verses):

To display footnotes on screen, choose one column for display (instead of default none).

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Susan W. Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 4:08 AM

The notes really look good in the Net Bible.  Do you think that there's no need for me to purchase the Tanak edition?  Is it really basically the same thing?
Thanks. 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 4:22 AM

There's also The Five Books of Moses.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 5:51 AM

Susan ... going back to your original question (how I interpret it), you seemed to want a jewish perspective.

The Tanakh notes have that perspective. They're translational notes and they generally deal with where the hebrew translation is 'up for grabs' (difficult).

The NET notes are quite clearly Christian. They include translational notes that assume a specific Christian theology, plus literal interpretive notes as you would find in any Christian study Bible. I'm not sure now, but Logos did have the NET without the notes and with, so make sure.

I use both since I want to see both perspectives. The NET also has some GOOD maps (satellite views for the locations identified).

So it depends on what you're looking for.

 

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 6:28 AM

DMB:

Susan, as MJ notes, JPS has their own translation that sticks with the Massorete tradition.

http://www.logos.com/product/384/tanakh-the-holy-scriptures

I really love this resource because it includes all the translation notes, many of which you won't find in the other translations. Especially the presumed emendations. Of course it's the Tanakh which includes the Torah.

An earlier one in 1917 is also available (both $10). If you check the internet, some prefer the earlier translation. I don't think it has the notes but not sure on that.

http://www.logos.com/product/5680/tanakh

Re: the JPS Tanakh: First the Torah and then the rest of Tanakh was revised, and first appeared in the 1999 Hebrew-English edition, described as follows:

"The English text in this TANAKH is a slightly updated version of the acclaimed 1985 JPS translation. Wherever possible, the results of modern study of the languages and culture of the ancient Near East have been brought to bear on the biblical text, which allows for an English style reflective of the biblical spirit and language rather than of the era of the translation."

I'm waiting for Logos to acquire this updated edition.

(The late) Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan's The Living Torah (a modern translation with helpful footnotes citing the Jewish authorities) is available online here: http://bible.ort.org/intro1.asp and it also includes the Hebrew text and transliterations and audio chanting of the Hebrew text.

 

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Susan Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 7:15 AM

Thanks.  This is so helpful.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 9:55 PM

Searching Logos.com for Jewish Publication => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=jewish+publication finds 733 resources to consider, including JPS Torah commentaries.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 6 2012 10:42 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
733 resources to conside

64 of which are from JPS

34 are from Messianic Jewish Publishers

and many simply have the word Jewish and the word Publisher in them but are clearly Christian and academic works -- just don't want people to have higher hopes for resources than Logos currently delivers.

 

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