The NA28 is coming, the NA28 is coming

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 11 2012 4:33 AM

This fall a new edition of the critical NT is to be released http://www.dbg.de/index.php?id=319.  Apparently there is to be a stand alone introduction explaining critical editions and the NA28 specifically which would be of interest as well http://tcg.iphpbb3.com/forum/64774768nx21631/textual-criticism-general-discussion-f18/nestle-aland-28-edition-preview-t262.html.  It would be desirable to have a Logos edition which reflects not simply the text itself but the layout of the edition (especially in light of the news that the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft doesn't intend to issue a new edition of their software with critical apparatus. 

 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 6:47 AM

Great info, George and also good suggestion. Am sure in the academic world there'll be a lot of drum-pounding for NA28 this fall.

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Ergatees | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 7:38 AM

Thank you, George, for call this to our attention. Once upon a time, I had all the editions of the UBS, but since have given them away except the last one. I see I shall have to shell out again.

Yours in our Lord,

Ergatees

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 7:53 AM

Ergatees:

Thank you, George, for call this to our attention. Once upon a time, I had all the editions of the UBS, but since have given them away except the last one. I see I shall have to shell out again.

Yours in our Lord,

Ergatees

So will I.  As I mentioned (or at least implied), it would be good to have the passage refences in the sidebar and the TC information at the bottom included (and linked).  I wouldn't feel badly about paying once again for that.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:14 PM

Are you excited by any chance, George?

Let's hope that Bob, the Germans and/or Hendrickson are just as excited to make this available for Logos. I'm sure they're way ahead of us. Bob has probably been working on an NA28 interlinear for some time now!

FYI http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2012_07_01_archive.html

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:47 PM

Tom Reynolds:

Are you excited by any chance, George?

Let's hope that Bob, the Germans and/or Hendrickson are just as excited to make this available for Logos. I'm sure they're way ahead of us. Bob has probably been working on an NA28 interlinear for some time now!

Oh no, Tom!! You used the I-word!!!

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:50 PM

Tom Reynolds:
Bob has probably been working on an NA28 interlinear for some time now!

Blasphemy !  Angry

בְּנִי֙ שִֽׂים־נָ֣א כָב֗וֹד לַֽיהוָ֛ה אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל וְתֶן־ל֣וֹ תוֹדָ֑ה וְהַגֶּד־נָ֥א לִי֙ מֶ֣ה עָשִׂ֔יתָ

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:57 PM

George Somsel:
... It would be desirable to have a Logos edition which reflects not simply the text itself but the layout of the edition

Agreed: having that layout would be really useful.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 11:03 PM

George Somsel:

Tom Reynolds:
Bob has probably been working on an NA28 interlinear for some time now!

Blasphemy !  Angry

בְּנִי֙ שִֽׂים־נָ֣א כָב֗וֹד לַֽיהוָ֛ה אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל וְתֶן־ל֣וֹ תוֹדָ֑ה וְהַגֶּד־נָ֥א לִי֙ מֶ֣ה עָשִׂ֔יתָ

You're welcome, George. At least I think you are - according to my int...I mean Google translate you said:

"Of note - please respect the LORD God of Israel and - and tell him thank you - please me what you did"

I'm glad I pleased you :) Don't you wish I'd used an interlinear on Joshua 7:19 instead!?!

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Clifford Kvidahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 11 2012 11:29 PM

Believe you me, I am excited and doing everything I can to get all you awesome lovers of the GNT.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 5:25 AM

George Somsel:
This fall a new edition of the critical NT is to be released http://www.dbg.de/index.php?id=319.  Apparently there is to be a stand alone introduction explaining critical editions and the NA28 specifically which would be of interest as well http://tcg.iphpbb3.com/forum/64774768nx21631/textual-criticism-general-discussion-f18/nestle-aland-28-edition-preview-t262.html.  It would be desirable to have a Logos edition which reflects not simply the text itself but the layout of the edition (especially in light of the news that the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft doesn't intend to issue a new edition of their software with critical apparatus. 

UPDATE:  http://www.nestle-aland.com/en/home/

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 5:26 AM

George Somsel:
This fall a new edition of the critical NT is to be released http://www.dbg.de/index.php?id=319.  Apparently there is to be a stand alone introduction explaining critical editions and the NA28 specifically which would be of interest as well http://tcg.iphpbb3.com/forum/64774768nx21631/textual-criticism-general-discussion-f18/nestle-aland-28-edition-preview-t262.html.  It would be desirable to have a Logos edition which reflects not simply the text itself but the layout of the edition (especially in light of the news that the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft doesn't intend to issue a new edition of their software with critical apparatus

george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Ergatees | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 10:22 AM

Timely, George,

I just ordered the 28th edition of the Nestle-Aland Greek text this morning from Amazon (this is a pre-order) and will have the ESV on the facing page. $36.00.

Thought that would be handy when off line and reading at the table.

Ergatees

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 6:05 PM

Posting here from another thread as I did not receive an answer.

Sounds interesting from what I have read, and the little that I know. The changes in the catholic letters should be interesting if I read the info correctly. Is there anything earth shattering in this new addition, that affect future translations of the Bible?

No flame war please!!!!!!!!!! Just trying to become educated.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 6:13 PM

Lynden Williams:

Sounds interesting from what I have read, and the little that I know. The changes in the catholic letters should be interesting if I read the info correctly. Is there anything earth shattering in this new addition, that affect future translations of the Bible?

We won't know until we see it.

george
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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 6:19 PM

Have the UBS fourth edition in paper with critical apparatus. Will wait for Logos to get the digital version.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 6:43 PM

Definitely will have to get it in Logos! 

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2012 7:13 PM

George Somsel:
It would be desirable to have a Logos edition which reflects not simply the text itself but the layout of the edition

I think I too will wait for the Logos edition with the Georgian modification Smile

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Schamma | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 24 2012 3:40 AM

No, nothing  earth shattering!

http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/ECM/ECM-index.html

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 24 2012 5:25 PM

Editio Critica Maior (ECM) is a critical edition of the Greek New Testament being produced by the Institut für neutestamentliche Textforschung (Eng. "Institute for New Testament Textual Research"). It is a work (in progress) in multiple volumes, and is intended to cite a more complete list of variant readings than can be incorporated in a manual edition. The University describes the edition as follows:

The Editio Critica Maior documents the Greek textual history of the first millennium based on Greek manuscripts of special relevance for the textual tradition, on older translations and on quotations of the New Testament in ancient Christian literature. Based on genealogical studies of the material prepared for the first time with this completeness the text is being newly reconstructed. The selection of manuscripts rests on an analysis of the entire primary tradition. Every selected manuscript is entered into a database with all its readings and registered in the critical apparatus. The edition thus offers information to answer continuative questions: How does the text change in the course of history and why? How was a text received in early Christianity?"[1]

Currently, the volumes include the General epistles, and incorporate only twenty-five changes from the text used in the United Bible Societies' fourth edition of the Greek New Testament and the twenty-seventh edition of the Nestle-Aland. The editors of both single volume New Testaments will incorporate these minor updates in future editions.

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