Swapping over to Mac?

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Ryan Koontz | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2012 2:53 PM

I have Logos on my PC Laptop, but it is geting old.. I am debating getting another Widows Laptop, but may get a Macbook instead... Will the Logos I have already work on Mac if I get one? or will I have to buy Logos 4 all over again?

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 26 2012 5:39 PM

Ryan Koontz:
Will the Logos I have already work on Mac if I get one?

Yes, you will just need to download the free L4 engine for Mac. Do be aware that there are currently some parity issues where L4 Mac still lags L4 Win; however, Bob assures us that he is dedicated to full parity.

Ryan Koontz:
will I have to buy Logos 4 all over again?

You will not need to repurchase Geeked

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Hapax Legomena | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 26 2012 5:59 PM

I went from a Dell PC to a MacBook  Air earlier this year.  All you have to do is download Mac Logos, run the program and sign in, then the program downloads your resources then indexes them.  Then you are good to go.  I have had no major problems with the Mac version.

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 4:46 AM

I considered going to a mac last time I bought a computer, but I really couldn't justify the price difference.  Maybe someone could convince me. Smile

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 6:07 AM

James Chandler:
I considered going to a mac last time I bought a computer, but I really couldn't justify the price difference.  Maybe someone could convince me.

When you compare comparable computers, Macs are fairly competitive... but Apple doesn't make "cheap" computers. When you look at ultrabooks, the MacBook Air is cheaper than the pc alternatives! The most economical Mac would be the mini. The iMac's have beautiful displays. One of the best reasons to get a Mac? Interconnectivity with iOS devices.

In my pre-married life, I bought a new computer every two years (whether I needed it or not Big Smile). Now, I must go much longer between computer purchases. I could buy them more frequently if I switched back, but I'd rather become Amish. At least they have working windows Stick out tongue

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Ed Blough | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 6:17 AM

I'm a PC user and I have considered going to Apple, I'm also a very careful shopper.  I have spec'ed out both machines and this is what I have found.

If you buy an Apple equivalent PC you will end up paying exactly the same or more. 

You can and most people do buy PC's with all they need for a lot less than it would cost them for an Apple but their machine does not equal the Apple.

Example to buy a Apple equivalent of an 27 inch IMAC monitor for a PC you would first have to hunt it down, not every manufacture even offers one and then the price would be a premium.

People often compare Apple prices to PC by quoting a  15" MAC Probook to a Office Store clearance sale price 15" going out the door for $400.  No comparison.

But be ever mindful depending on what you use your machine for you will probably have to re buy most programs you are now using to run on Apple. Logos being one of the exceptions.

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 6:21 AM

When I last shopped I compared a 17" of several top end PC and the mac.  The general price difference that I saw was about $1000.  I ended up with a Toshiba 8 gig of ram, blue ray,  320 g hard drive.  I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 6:40 AM

Also, don't forget to take into account:

  • How much service will the PC need? How much will the Mac need?
  • How long will the PC last? How long will the Mac last?
  • What can you sell the PC for the next time you change? What can you sell the Mac for?

Macs tend to need less service (both time- and money-wise), have longer life spans, and higher second-hand values. Which means that at the end of the day they may even be cheaper to own.

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Mike W | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 7:00 AM

alabama24:
Macs are fairly competitive

 

Agreed if we are talking about similar quality.  My last laptop was a thinkpad bought when lenovo still made decent computers.  Those are cost competitive with Macs and were close in quality.  The screen quality on a mac is noticibly better than anything I've seen on any windows laptop.  I got a late 2011 macbook pro 13" last November from a large online bookstore in Washington that rhymes with a river in South America.  With free shipping and DImms to upgrade to 8 GB of memory it was under $1100 and it runs Logos very well. A simlarly speced  windows laptop of similar quality (ie business class laptops) would cost the same or slightly more. There is also the operating system which has lots of user friendly features for someone who just wants to use a computer to get their work done (one example I ran into this morning.... I logged into my web based email account at a popular search provider and the OS offered to add the account to  the mail, calendar, and/or notes desktop apps automatically),

As others have mentioned there are some parity issues but if these aren't items that are important to you a Mac would be a good option (after 25 years on Microsoft operatings systems and sometimes linux user I consider myself a happy switcher Smile)

 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 8:08 AM

alabama24:
In my pre-married life, I bought a new computer every two years (whether I needed it or not Big Smile).

I purchased my Mac Pro Tower a little over 5 years ago. When I want to upgrade, I simply cannot justify it because it still does everything I need, and does it very well. Only problem, at 5 years of age, it cannot run @ 64 bit. 

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James Chandler | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 11:04 AM

I've actually never had problems with my pc's and I'm a computer geek and I like tinkering anyway.  My PC's have pretty much lasted until I wanted to buy a new one, usually because of new technology.  The last point you have me on, there is definitely no resale value for a pc.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 1:27 PM

James Chandler:
My PC's have pretty much lasted until I wanted to buy a new one, usually because of new technology.

At that time Macs tend to have a lot of life left in them, and a fairly decent resale value. Smile

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Sam West | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 2:49 PM

my 17 and a half Asus gaming laptop that cost me $1300 is top of the line as far as i am concerned. the same thing in a mac would cost at least $3000 and to be honest i don't think i would have the quality that i have in my my Asus. i wasnt worried about price when i bought it i wanted something that was durable

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 3:22 PM

Ryan Koontz:

I have Logos on my PC Laptop, but it is geting old.. I am debating getting another Widows Laptop, but may get a Macbook instead... Will the Logos I have already work on Mac if I get one? or will I have to buy Logos 4 all over again?

 

thanks

The biggest issue for me is here that Logos for Mac isn't up to par with Logos for PC. Look through the Logos for Mac forums and you'll see what I mean. I know that the Mac team is working hard to solve these issues, but the last I checked, there's still a level of frustration there about some Logos functions.

Macs have a lot to commend them, but if Logos is a primary, daily app for you, then you may want to stick with a Windows machine for now -- or stick with your current laptop as long as you can, while waiting for Logos for Mac to solve those nagging issues.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 3:44 PM

Richard DeRuiter:
Macs have a lot to commend them, but if Logos is a primary, daily app for you, then you may want to stick with a Windows machine for now -- or stick with your current laptop as long as you can, while waiting for Logos for Mac to solve those nagging issues.

Or use Parallels or similar. 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 4:07 PM

Richard DeRuiter:
The biggest issue for me is here that Logos for Mac isn't up to par with Logos for PC

Perhaps that is because we expect more from our software Big Smile

Actually the Mac version is very serviceable. Most of the parity issues seem to be cosmetic and/or convenience items.

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Michael A. Lasley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 27 2012 4:09 PM

I have a 27 inch iMac and would never go back to the PC with all of it operating system issues. It's wonderful to have a large Logos4 window with several panels and have a full page Word right beside Logos to compose my notes for my Sunday School lesson. Also, I have Parallels installed and have run with Logos4 installed in Windows and on the Mac so that I could use either one if there was ever an issue. In practice I have had no problems with the Mac version of Logos and that what I primarily use. I do use the Windows for certain programs that are not available on the Mac, like Intuit's Quicken.

Having a SSD primary drive with a 2TB second drive and an interface to external drives with Thunderbolt helps make Logos4 very fast on the iMac with a large Logos library.

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