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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 5:15 AM

Damian is definitely wrong about "Roman Rite" never being used officially.


Please re-read exactly what I wrote. It is never used officially to refer to the "Latin Church."

Considering that I celebrate Mass according to the Roman Rite every day, I am well aware that it is the preferred term used to refer to the dominant liturgical form in the Latin Church.

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 5:32 AM

The Church in Rome is supposed to have been founded primarily among the Greek speaking population (slaves and immigrants) -- which is why we still talk about the "Kyrie", and probably why Peter and Paul could easily preach to them -- and they continued to use Greek for a surprisingly long time.

Most likely the liturgy in Rome was primarily in Latin from the middle of the fourth century - mostly supposition as textual witnesses to the period, liturgically, are scarce.

The Kyrie definitely didn't enter into the Roman Rite until after the middle of the third century - it was quite foreign to the pilgrim Egeria on hearing it chanted in Jerusalem.

The first evidence of its use in Rome is from 529ad - the Council of Vaison makes reference to the introduction of the Kyrie into the liturgies of Italy.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 3:28 PM

I believe there was also a Brigettine Rite. Certainly for the Office;

There are a number of versions of the Office, often associated with a particular religious or lay order. In common usage these are not considered separate rites. However, they are often quite important in tracing liturgical and textual history.

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Ice Deep | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 23 2015 4:30 PM

Just wanted to thank Rosie for her list of websites.

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