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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 2 2012 4:59 PM

I've been considering either a Kindle Fire HD or a Google Nexus 7, primarily for Logos and Vyrso. I would really appreciate any input from your experience. For instance, how nice is the screen for reading? If you've seen the latest iPad, how does either of the Android devices compare to the iPad? Any comparison of the backlit displays with an e-ink reader, such as one of the regular Kindles or Nooks?

I realize that the Nexus 7 is more of a full-fledged, unadulterated Android tablet, but I'm thinking mostly upon the lines of utilizing one or the other with the Logos and Vyrso apps. I may hold off till the 8.9" Fire HD's are released, but the 7" seems like such a great size for reading.

Thanks.

Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 7:30 AM

I have been practically begging LOGOS to weigh in here....and maybe to say if they are developing on the Windows 8 platform in the future for the new MS Surface tablets.  No word yet.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 8:11 AM

I won't make a decision till at least the end of October, after we find out about the Surface and possible iPad Mini. Frankly, I'm not that enthused about Apple (though I have an iPhone 4S) and learning that the Amazon app store hasn't allowed the Vyrso app for the Fire HD (it can be side-loaded but the result is a pixelated display) points me to either a Google Nexus 7 or the new Windows tablets. I suspect that Logos is already hard at work on a Windows 8 RTM app.

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Gabe Martin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 8:31 AM

As far as Kindle Fire HD vs Google Nexus 7 goes I would strongly recommend the Nexus 7.  It's a wonderful device at a really great price and is ideally suited for reading.  Also since it's a "Nexus" device it's very likely to be among the first set of devices to recieve future Android updates thus extending the lifetime and usefulness of the device. Also all the Logos Android dev's have a Nexus 7 so it's well tested.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 8:46 AM

I dont think they are working on the Surface app at all actually.  Who wants to buy a Tablet if Logos doesnt work on it...not me.

I would never buy from Apple...they are on the side of the antichrist with their unholy allegiances and censorship.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 8:57 AM

The Ipad mini will be too costly for me and Apple company unGodly.  MS Surface will not have a full pro version for at least 3 more months.

Logos is so far nice but very quiet in emails.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 10:42 AM

I had the first Kindle Fire. It was a love-hate deal. The size is a perfect compromise for readability vs portability (any of the 7" tabs will fit in my pocket; anything bigger would not). My main gripe with the original was the interface and lack of app support. Both of these can be gotten around. One of the first things I did with it was root it and install the Google Market. That pretty much gets around the issue of lack of apps and slow to release apps in the Amazon App store. Auto updates work too. I'm sure this is also or will soon be possible with the newest Kindle Fires. The other thing I experimented with was installing a home screen replacement to get rid of the ugly Amazon interface. That worked to a lesser degree. Some Amazon resources weren't available without switching back to the Amazon home screen and hiding root. Overall, I loved the original Kindle for it's size, but disliked the weight, app availability, and interface. The interface experience is, however, subjective; many love it.

I don't have the new Kindle, but from what I've seen and read it improves on the form factor by being slimmer and a bit lighter which is a big deal. Improved screen and I believe they've tweaked the interface. I'm still not sure about their interface; I'm really spoiled on the flexibility Android allows, to setup my screens the way I like, but again, that's a subjective issue. The bigger Kindle is much less portable, but much easier for reading. The issues with Vyrso availability, etc, should be solvable here too by rooting and installing the Google Market.

My Nexus 7 is my favorite device. Perfect form factor, great screen for reading, full Android, very flexible. I'm a big Amazon fan-I've got hundreds of mp3 albums from Amazon, kindle books, and get all my movie rentals on Amazon Instant-some weeks I see the UPS guy from Amazon more often that I do the mailman. But for an Android tablet I have to give the edge to the Nexus 7. You really can't go wrong with either, especially at the prices they are offering.

I'm less a fan of Apple. I haven't used the iPad much, but if it's interface is like the iPod Touch, I don't like it. The only reason I have the iPod Touch is because it's the only thing with enough capacity to carry my music collection. They have nice screens, great app availablity, but very inflexible interface. They don't offer user's much choice force their choice off on users.

If you can't tell I place a lot of value on customizability. I like having my screens the way I like, cluttered or clean, everything exactly where I want it. I also like having widgets I can add like scripture of the day, etc. or installing an app that changes the notification tray to add toggles for feature I toggle often. Esp. Brightness which goes to 10% inside for reading, 100% outside for reading, or somewhere in the the middle for time wasters.

 

You can have just about any kind of interface you like on Android. Here's one I seen earlier this morning on one of my RSS feeds: http://www.androidguys.com/2012/10/03/get-this-look-on-your-android-smartphone-xui-v2/

My next device will be one of the hybrid tablet/desktops with Windows 8 (Not Windows 8 RT, which Logos will not support anytime in the near future). My only reason for getting one is to have a portable device that runs the complete Logos Desktop App. I still prefer the size of the Nexus 7 for daily reading, for using in church service, or going to the coffee shop, but for bible study groups, I need a bit more power, the features of the full Logos package. Until they can get that into a 7" tablet, I'll be looking forward to one of the smaller hybrids to get the job done.

 

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 11:34 AM

Well written and well done.  i am going to wait as well.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 4 2012 12:36 PM

Gabe Martin:
Also all the Logos Android dev's have a Nexus 7 so it's well tested.

Yes

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 5 2012 12:36 PM

Joshua Lieder:
I have been practically begging LOGOS to weigh in here....and maybe to say if they are developing on the Windows 8 platform in the future for the new MS Surface tablets.  No word yet.

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/55919.aspx

:-)

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 5 2012 1:43 PM

Bob Pritchett:

Joshua Lieder:
I have been practically begging LOGOS to weigh in here....and maybe to say if they are developing on the Windows 8 platform in the future for the new MS Surface tablets.  No word yet.

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/55919.aspx

:-)

Well, far be it from me to say, ". . . ." Wink

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2012 5:11 PM

Gabe Martin:

As far as Kindle Fire HD vs Google Nexus 7 goes I would strongly recommend the Nexus 7.  It's a wonderful device at a really great price and is ideally suited for reading.  Also since it's a "Nexus" device it's very likely to be among the first set of devices to receive future Android updates thus extending the lifetime and usefulness of the device. Also all the Logos Android dev's have a Nexus 7 so it's well tested.

I haven't used the Kindle Fire HD, but I can vouch for the Nexus 7. I have one and love it.

Here are seven reasons:

  1. It's fast and responsive. It doesn't get sluggish or unresponsive like other Android tablets I've tried.
  2. It's a great reading experience. While I wouldn't have minded a 1920x1200 screen, the 1280x800 screen makes reading text enjoyable.
  3. It's light and feels great in your hand, making it ideal for extended use. You can largely operate it with one hand, leaving your other hand free to hold your spouse or child.
  4. It's portable and fits in your pocket. It fits perfectly in the back pocket of most of my jeans and the front pocket of my dress pants.
  5. It's affordable. What you get for the price is well worth it.
  6. It's pure Google. I use most of Google's services, and it brings them all together nicely. Be the first to get OS updates as well.
  7. It's compatible. It's selling really well, which means most app developers will make sure their apps work well on it. It works great with the Logos, Vyrso, and Faithlife apps.

I gave my iPad (3) to my wife and daughter and my phone to my wife. The Nexus 7 has replaced both.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2012 5:22 PM

Thanks, Phil, for weighing in. A really good tablet at a good price is hard to beat. With an iPad, I feel like I would need to keep it for several years to justify its price. With a Nexus 7, though, upgrading every couple of years doesn't hurt as bad.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 8 2012 12:01 PM

Thanks for weighing in.  I have some problems with Google and their politics overseas....but enjoyed reading your response.

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Josh Hunt | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 9 2012 6:46 PM

I have the original Kindle Fire. Logos works great, although, the Vyrso app is not available. The logos app is not quite as good as reading on the native Kindle reader, but you have the ability to search etc. so I hae started buying my books with Vyrso/ Logos. 

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 10 2012 4:07 PM

The fact that the Kindle Fire HD doesnt even have a charge indicator light Sad made me pass it over.

Those who read my posts will be surprised but I am awaiting a Nexus 7.  It at least lets me do a little more.  Speaker is small but I am not big into movies these days anyway.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 10 2012 4:22 PM

I am awaiting my new baby...a Nexus 7 coming from Amazon of all places.  shhh...dont tell anyone Phil. 

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 10 2012 8:00 PM

Hope it works well for you, Joshua. I've thought seriously about a Nexus 7, but rumor has it that they are coming out with a 32GB model, and other rumors says they're working on a Nexus 10 which has higher resolution than the new iPad's Retina. And I may still talk myself into the Amazon Kindle HD 8.9" 32GM model.

But I'm really interest in a Microsoft Surface or third party tablet that has "Retina-like" display. No Retina-like screen and no deal for me.

Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 11 2012 11:00 AM

Someone convince me that I need 32 for Logos and that a Nexus 10 is worth waiting for.  Poor seminarian here (Rich in Christ though and Logos gives me a nice student discount...Praise God) but I still wonder if I should reject my used Nexus 7 on its way from an Amazon distributor of all places.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 11 2012 3:51 PM

Joseph, if rumors mean anything, Google is supposedly upgrading the top end of the Nexus 7 to be 32GB. Then it becomes a matter of size: do you want a 10" or 7"? But as I said, it's all rumor.

For me, a 32GB Nexus 7 would be quite attractive. Then again, so would a 10" that has a Retina-like display. Smile

Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

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