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Mike | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2012 12:43 PM

Why, when I am without Internet, does "lookup" only return a dictionary source when I have other resources such as Strong's Concordance available on my iPad2?  This is frustrating for me as a student when I can't dive in deeper in study when offline.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2012 1:48 PM

Mike:
Why, when I am without Internet, does "lookup" only return a dictionary source

Currently, all these features are performed on the Logos servers, which obviously requires an internet connection.

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Mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2012 2:23 PM

Utterly frustrating.  One can only hope that this capability will come in future updates.  Without it, the genius of portability with the iPad is somewhat defeated and keeps us printing paper or having to leave the app to bring up documents OR reverting to a laptop!  Thanks for the quick answer.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2012 3:01 PM

Mike - I can empathize with your frustration… but the mobile app just isn't there yet. At one time, Bob suggested that part of the reason for these functions being performed online was the limitations of the hardware. I'm sure that software COULD be written to do this, but Logos is not going to reinvent the wheel with their resource files. 

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Rod | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 11 2012 7:32 AM

Mike:
Utterly frustrating.  

I agree.  If you are not online, which can still happen in a lot of places, the mobile apps are useless.

I don't think Logos realizes that they are really forcing us to us a competitor's app.

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Frank Hinds | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 1:50 PM

Completely agree.  A fabulous resource on my laptop, frustratingly limited on my iPad.  Need to get it upgraded!

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Into Grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 4:41 PM

Taxee:

Mike:
Utterly frustrating.  

I agree.  If you are not online, which can still happen in a lot of places, the mobile apps are useless.

I don't think Logos realizes that they are really forcing us to us a competitor's app.

I work off-line often. I also am forced to use a competitor's app which has more searching ability. I hope Logos addresses this issue with their next update.

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Dale Garman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 8:51 PM

Limitations of the hardware cannot be the real reason since others have written fully functional bible apps for the same platform.  I'm forced to use Olive Tree when traveling, which I do much of the time.  Maybe there are limitations to putting a whole library on an iphone, but a method to download certain key resources like strongs, one or two sets of commmentaries and other reference materials is more than doable.

Logos risk being left behind.  PC makers are gasping economically as the move toward mobile devices picks up steam.  If they don't reinvent some wheels they will slip in irrelevance and all of our investment in resources will be wasted. 

I would go one step further.  The marketing materials are misleading at best since they don't mention this significant limitation, at least I can't find it.  I may well not have purchased this product since the main reason I was drawn was the idea that it would truly work accross all platforms.  That is not really true when you get to the fine print.  Without a functioning app that works offline, this product is not even close to being competitive to other apps.  Yes it's great on a desktop when you have internet, but we are all moving away from those platforms and are often out of touch.  I cannnot get a reliable wifi feed in the main sanctuary of our church for example, and the phone signal is weak.  So the product is practically worthless.  There are many places where the signals are weak are not available.  I travel internationally a lot and am out of wifi range much of the time.  I am hoping for some signs that Logos finally sees the strategic weakness and puts priority into this issue

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 16 2012 9:15 PM

Dale Garman:
Limitations of the hardware cannot be the real reason since others have written fully functional bible apps for the same platform.

Dale – I don't know if what you are saying is true or not, but I assume that you are wrong. Here is my rationale… If it were easy to do, it would have been done. The issue in my mind isn't "can it be done" (of course it can), but "can it be done within the Logos framework." Consider, for example, that Logos uses your computer to create a very large index file on your computer to assist in searches. Could that index file be created on your iPad? Would your iPad have enough space to hold it along with all of your resources (not to mention music, photos, and other apps)?

I guess only someone from Logos could really enlighten us. Feel free to let Bob know specifics about what other apps do better. 

Dale Garman:
I would go one step further.  The marketing materials are misleading at best since they don't mention this significant limitation, at least I can't find it.  I may well not have purchased this product since the main reason I was drawn was the idea that it would truly work accross all platforms.

I FULLY agree with you on this point. I try to clarify to people as often as I can that "LOGOS 4" doesn't run on mobile… what does "fit in your pocket" is the majority (but not all) of your base package and other resources, accessed primarily through the "cloud." (Yes you can download all your resources; no I don't recommend it for a number of reasons).

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