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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 4:56 AM

I am very excited about what I read about the surface pro , but I am looking for the next generation because of its low battery usage. I hope Microsoft may improve it.

Blessings in Christ.

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R. Mansfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 10:30 AM

Mark Allison:

I'm a long-time Mac user, but I just purchased a Windows Surface Pro. Why? I want to be able to run the full desktop version of Accordance (when it is released later this year) on a tablet :-)

I figured I'd just do that in VMWare on my MacBook Pro Wink

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Mark Allison | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 10:36 AM

Ah, but Rick, you're missing the point. I don't care about the Windows version per se; I just want to run the full version of Accordance on a tablet :-)

Mark

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R. Mansfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2013 10:38 AM

Oh, I got you. Yes, I missed the point. That will be an interesting experience.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 10:37 AM

I have the 128Gb Surface Pro. Love having full version of L5 in my lap during worship.

SUGGESTION: First improvement to the Win8 App needs to be incorporating the reference search interface that is in the Faithlife Study Bible iOS app. 3 clicks (Book, chapter, verse) is much quicker than onscreen keyboard input into the search window when a preacher is doing a topical message and skipping all over the Bible.

Can I get an AMEN?

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 12:10 PM

David Thomas:

I have the 128Gb Surface Pro. Love having full version of L5 in my lap during worship.

SUGGESTION: First improvement to the Win8 App needs to be incorporating the reference search interface that is in the Faithlife Study Bible iOS app. 3 clicks (Book, chapter, verse) is much quicker than onscreen keyboard input into the search window when a preacher is doing a topical message and skipping all over the Bible.

Can I get an AMEN?

Amen! congrats David. It would be very nice if you could allow us to see some screenshots of Logos in surface pro.

Blessings in Christ.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 12:49 PM

Here is a screen capture of my L5 Layout that I use on my Surface when in worship or small groups.

I can't seem to get the snipping tool to work in the Win8 Logos App.

EDIT: Here is a hint for all Surface models where there is not PrtScr button on the keyboard - Press volume Down and the Windows logo at the bottom of your touchscreen to do a Screen Capture.

Here is what the ESV looks like in the Win8 app on the Surface.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 1:28 PM

Tes asked for images from the Microsoft Surface...

Here is a screenshot of the main screen in the Win8 APP (Tiles are of books I recently opened)

 If you click on the "See all Library" tile the program displays this (Notice: I filtered for "Lexham" resources in my Library)

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 1:55 PM

Wow David! It looks very beautiful, thank you for letting me to view it in such a very clear display.

Blessings in Christ.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 6:26 PM

David Thomas:

I have the 128Gb Surface Pro. Love having full version of L5 in my lap during worship.

SUGGESTION: First improvement to the Win8 App needs to be incorporating the reference search interface that is in the Faithlife Study Bible iOS app. 3 clicks (Book, chapter, verse) is much quicker than onscreen keyboard input into the search window when a preacher is doing a topical message and skipping all over the Bible.

Can I get an AMEN?

Congratulations on the tablet. Having a portable and complete version of Logos is awesome!

The verse picker would definitely be handy on Windows 8 touch devices. I started posting issues like this a week or so ago. If anyone sees things I've missed (and I'm sure I've missed a lot) in those sections I've looked through, please add to those threads. I've still got notes I need to get together on other areas, but what I have so far is in these threads:

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 30 2013 9:10 PM

Randy (Shayne),

   Those are some well-presented observations and I truly appreciate the tone with which they are presented. You truly seem to want to help Logos produce a better product without whining about the current state of the program. THANK YOU for your tone.

Dave

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 4 2013 8:48 AM

David, we appreciate you and I do personally as you steered me here (oops - I actually had never been in this part of Logos forums) and I can daydream about using Windows 8 Pro on a Tablet once I win the lottery now (though I realize that may not be a Godly pursuit...the Lottery I mean).

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 4 2013 8:56 AM

Bill Anderson...You rock!

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 4 2013 9:09 AM

Wow Tes, imagining spending $900 or more for the overheating Surface Pro and then be saddled with very little time on it before it needs to be recharged.

I think someone in an earlier post said there is a setting that migh eke out more time but I bet version 2 of Surface pro is a long way off.  I think the unit I saw in the store was very warm (hot actually) but it was because it had LEFT been on so long someone said.

Thoughts of my $900 Surface exploding or overheating (should I ever be able to actually afford one!) seem a little scary.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 7 2013 5:48 PM

David Thomas:

SUGGESTION: First improvement to the Win8 App needs to be incorporating the reference search interface that is in the Faithlife Study Bible iOS app. 3 clicks (Book, chapter, verse) is much quicker than onscreen keyboard input into the search window when a preacher is doing a topical message and skipping all over the Bible.

UPDATE: I found that opening the Index (the << in the upper left corner of the pane) allowed me to click on the book of the Bible, then the chapter quickly then it was easy to use the touch interface to scroll to the verse.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 8 2013 8:22 AM

[quote user="Joshua Lieder"]

Wow Tes, imagining spending $900 or more for the overheating Surface Pro and then be saddled with very little time on it before it needs to be recharged.

I think someone in an earlier post said there is a setting that migh eke out more time but I bet version 2 of Surface pro is a long way off.  I think the unit I saw in the store was very warm (hot actually) but it was because it had LEFT been on so long someone said.

Thoughts of my $900 Surface exploding or overheating (should I ever be able to actually afford one!) seem a little scary.

[/quote]

Joshua,perhaps the one you have seen may have defect.From what I have read the negative side of it are,that it is thicker and heavier than other tables comparatively to others,plus its low battery life time,I would like to hear from others who have the device.

Blessings in Christ.

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Vincent Xavier Shaw | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 8 2013 8:52 AM

For a thorough review of temps: 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6695/microsoft-surface-pro-review/7

I never notice the heat terribly.  I usually use it on my lap or on a table when doing serious computing.  When I use it in my hand is consumption, not production.

For example, I preached for a little over 20 minutes palming the Surface Pro, sliding up a PDF (in full-screen maximized) that I printed digitally from MS Word.  It was comfortable the whole time, brilliant screen even at 50% brightness.  But I have to figure out a way to keep the lights above my pulpit from shining off my Surface Pro and causing a distracting reflection (that bounces around the back and projector screen) as I move.  Maybe a anti-glare or anti-reflective covering of some sort.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Vincent X Shaw, M.Div.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 8 2013 11:46 AM

[quote user="Vincent Xavier Shaw"]

For a thorough review of temps: 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6695/microsoft-surface-pro-review/7

I never notice the heat terribly.  I usually use it on my lap or on a table when doing serious computing.  When I use it in my hand is consumption, not production.

For example, I preached for a little over 20 minutes palming the Surface Pro, sliding up a PDF (in full-screen maximized) that I printed digitally from MS Word.  It was comfortable the whole time, brilliant screen even at 50% brightness.  But I have to figure out a way to keep the lights above my pulpit from shining off my Surface Pro and causing a distracting reflection (that bounces around the back and projector screen) as I move.  Maybe a anti-glare or anti-reflective covering of some sort.

Yours in Christ,
Rev. Vincent X Shaw, M.Div.

[/quote]

Thank you Vincent for the live confirmation.

Blessings in Christ.

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 8 2013 7:22 PM

Preacherman and David Thomas, what version of Surface pro are each of you using? And also, if you don't mind me asking, about how much do they run? I see lots of different options out there and if I was to purchase one, I want to make sure the full Logos program would run smoothly.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 8 2013 7:31 PM

Liam,

You didn't address me, but I have a Surface Pro with the 128GB SSD. I don't have a lot of software loaded on my tablet, but all of my library (2,539 resources with Perseus hidden) in my Logos 5 directory (16.5 GB) fits just fine.

Really the only difference is the extra $100 you pay for the 128GB model. The 64GB model runs $899 and the 128GB runs $999. It is well worth the extra $100 to spring for the 128GB model. BTW, I have a touch cover as well, and that will set you back another $120.

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