I am very excited to see this new feature in Logos 5, and would like to know if you are too.
Here is a video with my first impressions on clause searching: http://www.bsreview.org/blog/2012/11/my-thoughts-on-clause-searches-in-logos-5.html
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I'd love to watch your video. But it looks like it might be a Flash video, and I'm on an iPad. And I run my browsers with Flash disabled.
Donnie
You can easily watch it on Youtube. I just checked on my iPad.
I am very excited to see this new feature in Logos 5, and would like to know if you are too. Here is a video with my first impressions on clause searching: http://www.bsreview.org/blog/2012/11/my-thoughts-on-clause-searches-in-logos-5.html Join the conversation!
Thank you for the link to your video. I agree that the ability to use boolean operators and wild cards would be advantageous. I really do think this simplifies syntax searching for dummies like me.
Thank you, George. The key here is that all the work under the hood is done, so I'm hopeful that the developers at Logos will find a way to give us a more powerful and flexible interface while keeping it simple.
I am very excited to see this new feature in Logos 5, and would like to know if you are too. Here is a video with my first impressions on clause searching: http://www.bsreview.org/blog/2012/11/my-thoughts-on-clause-searches-in-logos-5.html Join the conversation! Thank you for the link to your video. I agree that the ability to use boolean operators and wild cards would be advantageous. I really do think this simplifies syntax searching for dummies like me.
We plan to add basic Boolean operators in a future release.
That's excellent news, Sean. Thanks! I hope you will consider wildcards too! [:)] The combination of both types of operators would increase the value of this feature exponentially.
Good job on the review Ruben... I like the use of videos in your reviews. I look forward to future reviews.
Thank you, John. Hopefully, when I do the next video I won't be suffering from heartburn and stomach flu...
Thank you Ruben for the great post.
This is excellent!
Ruben, your searches where you tried to use a wildcard can be done by simply leaving out the element where you put the wildcard:
Or am I misunderstanding what you were trying to do?
Here is a video with my first impressions on clause searching: http://www.bsreview.org/blog/2012/11/my-thoughts-on-clause-searches-in-logos-5.html Ruben, your searches where you tried to use a wildcard can be done by simply leaving out the element where you put the wildcard: You tried "subject:* object:Jesus verb:to love" to find all the places where Jesus is loved by someone, but that can be accomplished with: "object:Jesus verb:to love" Also, you tried "subject:Jesus verb-lemma:*" to find all the places where Jesus is the subject of a verb, but that can be accomplished with: "subject:Jesus" Or am I misunderstanding what you were trying to do?
Obviously I'm not Ruben, but I tend to think that was simply for purposes of illustration. There is also the ? wildcard which only stands for one character. Perhaps you might wish to search for some things (PL) which differ by only one character.
Todd, if you run the search as you suggest, none of the subjects or verb-lemmas will be highlighted, and therefore won't appear in the Analysis view. They should be there, for sure, but you would have to find out manually where/who/what they are. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of a digital search...
In my example I was trying to make the subject or the verb-lemma explicit by using a wildcard asterisk.
Hope this clarifies what I had in mind.
Any search with a wildcard character is illegal in my 5.0 SR-3!?
Ruben, the subjects or verb-lemmas don't need to be highlighted to appear in Analysis view. There is always a column for each of them, which you can sort by or drag to group by.
If for some reason one of those columns is not showing up for you, it's because it isn't turned on. Right click on any column header and turn on the columns you want:
You were just getting too wild, Dave, so they disabled it on your installation. [:)]
Thanks for reminding me, Rosie. I overlooked the fact that Subject would appear in Analysis anyway. I guess this means that using wildcards would be even easier than I had anticipated, and that it will be implemented soon [:P]
Thanks for reminding me, Rosie. I overlooked the fact that Subject would appear in Analysis anyway. I guess this means that using wildcards would be even easier than I had anticipated, and that it will be implemented soon
I still don't know why you need wildcards. If you're trying to find all verbs with Jesus as subject, just search for subject:Jesus and omit any restriction on the verb-lemma, and it will find all verbs, in other words a wildcard search is understood. Adding a wildcard term would buy you nothing of substance, so I don't see any need for Logos to implement it. It would be what we used to call in programming, a NOP (pronounced no-op), a null operation. Well, apart from putting pretty highlighting on the verb in each of the verses that was found, but it would still find the same list of verses, so the highlighting is immaterial, since it isn't required in order for you to see all those verbs in Analysis view which is the main point of doing this kind of search.
Again, you are right. We kids just love highlighting and other eye candy [:D]
