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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2012 5:34 PM

RAusdahl:

But while I feel it's important personally for me to do my best to be a good steward of the Word and to understand it correctly, I realize that in the end, there may be some things that I still get wrong.  So I'll do my best, knowing that others are doing the same--all the while believing (and thankful) that our salvation is not based on getting every doctrine right.  Smile

It sounds like you are on the right track.

I have been on both sides of the divide. It's important to avoid the extreme on either side. Most "moderates" can find that they have much more in common.

I have come to the conclusion that God has made extremely clear the most important things for us to know. He does not delight in playing hide and seek. Many of the issues that divide us or unimportant in the whole scheme of things.

I still enjoy the challenge of diligent Bible study to make sure that I am rightly dividing the Word as best I can. I realize that if I live out the things that I do find clear in Scripture, I am less worried about the things I don't understand.

Personally, I do not worry about a person's views on Calvinism/Arminianism. I can find great value if they are commited to faithfully exegeting the Word. 

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2012 5:43 PM

Edwin Bowden:
Personally, I do not worry about a person's views on Calvinism/Arminianism. I can find great value if they are commited to faithfully exegeting the Word.

This is one of the hardest lessons to learn.  I've heard this stated a number of ways, but the best I've heard was probably by R. C. Sproul.  He says, to the effect, that while the differences between Arminianism and Calvinism are important, and worth discussing and debating, in the end, this is an INTRAMURAL discussion between fellow believers, and we must continually strive to keep that fact in the forefront.

If you listen to some of the recent audio debates between Michael Horton (reformed) and Roger Olsen (Arminian), you'll hear them say the same things, in a bit different way.

I agree with Dr. Sproul.  Like Edwin stated earlier, I've been on both sides of this issue as well.  I wasn't any less saved on one side than I am on the other. 

 

FWIW, I have quite a few resources that I've marked in my library as reformed or not reformed...if you have questions about individual resources, and I have them, I'll be glad to answer.  Just ask.  I think others here are just as willing to help.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2012 6:44 PM

Edwin Bowden:
FWIW, I have quite a few resources that I've marked in my library as reformed or not reformed...if you have questions about individual resources, and I have them, I'll be glad to answer.  Just ask.  I think others here are just as willing to help.

Thanks, Edwin!  At this juncture in my library development, I think I'm going to focus on adding commentaries.  Either...

  • One hopefully well respected commentary set that is well represented by authors and views from both camps, OR...
  • Two hopefully well respected commentary sets--one from each camp.

If I go with the first option, I expect there will be important books/passages on this issue with commentary from authors who represents just one camp.  In that event, my next step would be to supplement the commentary on those books/passages with individual commentary volumes represented by respected authors from the opposite camp.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 24 2012 6:49 PM

FWIW, I thought I'd post a consolidation of the authors and publishers gleaned so far during this discussion.  Please feel free to either add to the lists or to make corrections if I put an author or publisher in the wrong camp.

Arminian Authors

  • Dr. Bill Arnold
  • Garett Lee Cockerill
  • Jack Cottrell
  • Maxie Dunnam
  • Leroy Forlines
  • Norman Geisler
  • John Miley
  • Thomas Oden 
  • Roger Olson
  • John Oswalt
  • Paige Patterson
  • Robert E. Picirilli
  • William Burt Pope
  • A. W. Tozer
  • John Wesley
  • Dr. Ben Witherington

Arminian Publishers

  • College Press
  • Randall House

Calvinist Authors

  • Archibald Alexander
  • John Bunyan
  • R. Scott Clarke
  • Mark Driscoll
  • Wayne Grudem
  • Michael Horton
  • John MacArthur
  • Albert Mohler
  • Douglas J. Moo
  • A.W. Pink
  • John Piper
  • Phil Schaffs
  • R.C. Sproul
  • Charles Spurgeon
  • B.B. Warfield

 

Calvinist Publishers
  • Banner of Truth
  • Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing
  • Reformation Heritage
  • Reformation Trust
  • Sovereign Grace Christian Books

 

 

 

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 25 2012 3:57 AM

RAusdahl:
Arminian and Calvinist Resource List
I would like to start with good commentary sets, but am certainly open to small collections and individual titles as well.

Next to Calvin, for an exhaustive  Calvinist commentary set, would be John Gill.

http://www.logos.com/product/8514/the-works-of-john-gill

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 25 2012 6:00 PM

RAusdahl:
Calvinist Publishers

  • Banner of Truth
  • Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing
  • Reformation Heritage
  • Reformation Trust
  • Sovereign Grace Christian Books

Although they don't publish exclusively there, a lot of Baker's stuff is reformed in nature.  At least, they include a good number of reformed authors in their commentary sets.  Crossway is also a good reformed publishing house, but again, I don't think they are exclusively reformed like P&R or BoT. CrossBooks and Naphtali Press are Calvinist. Christian Focus tends to lean Calvinist.

Most of Broadman and Holman stuff is non-reformed.  Anything by Cokesbury or Abingdon Press is Arminian. Gospel Publishing House, Randall House, and (obviously) Wesleyan Press are all Arminian in focus. Nazarene Publishing House is exclusively Arminian.

 

HTH.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 25 2012 6:23 PM

Evan and Doc,

Thanks for the additional info.  I'll get it added to the "list format" I put out.  Identifying individual authors is a sizeable job--doable but sizeable.  I think being able to sort out publishers is a great help in that regard as it may at least give a clue as to which view an author or publication is likely to be coming from.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 26 2012 5:19 AM

For resources already in your Library, it might be worth checking out the new community tags.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 26 2012 10:48 AM

This is an updated list of authors and publishers.

Please note I am not personally familiar with every author and publisher.  Many of these entries are based on input from other forum members or from things I've read.  If you feel there are errors in the list, feel free to comment.

Arminian Authors

  • Dr. Bill Arnold
  • Garett Lee Cockerill
  • Jack Cottrell
  • Maxie Dunnam
  • Leroy Forlines
  • Norman Geisler
  • John Miley
  • Thomas Oden 
  • Roger Olson
  • John Oswalt
  • Paige Patterson
  • Robert E. Picirilli
  • William Burt Pope
  • A. W. Tozer
  • Richard Watson
  • John Wesley
  • Henry Orton Wiley
  • Dr. Ben Witherington 

 

Arminian Publishers

  • Abingdon Press
  • College Press
  • Gospel Publishing House
  • Nazarene Publishing House
  • Randall House
  • Wesleyan Press

Arminian Leaning Publishers

  • Broadman & Holman

 

Calvinist Authors

  • Archibald Alexander
  • James Montgomery Boice
  • John Bunyan
  • Sung Wook Chung
  • R. Scott Clarke
  • Mark Driscoll
  • Jonathan Edwards
  • John Gill
  • Wayne Grudem
  • Charles Hodge
  • Michael Horton
  • Gary Johnson
  • Alan Mabin (Maybin?)
  • John MacArthur
  • Albert Mohler
  • Douglas J. Moo
  • Richard A. Muller
  • A.W. Pink
  • John Piper
  • Rick Ritchie
  • Kim Riddlebarger
  • Phil Schaffs
  • R.C. Sproul
  • Charles Spurgeon
  • B.B. Warfield

 

Calvinist Publishers

  • Banner of Truth
  • Crossbooks
  • Naphtali Press
  • Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing
  • Reformation Heritage
  • Reformation Trust
  • Sovereign Grace Christian Books

Calvinist Leaning Publishers

  • Baker Publishing Group
  • Christian Focus Publications
  • Good News Publisher/Crossway Books

  

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 26 2012 10:52 AM

fgh:

For resources already in your Library, it might be worth checking out the new community tags.

 

Thanks for the tip, fgh.  I added that field to my library display, sorted on it, then took a very quick peek.  I saw a few resources tagged as Arminian or Calvinist, but only a few.  I'll keep this tag in mind though and take a better look through my resources when time permits.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 7:42 AM

Rick Ausdahl:

This is an updated list of authors and publishers.

Please note I am not personally familiar with every author and publisher.  Many of these entries are based on input from other forum members or from things I've read.  If you feel there are errors in the list, feel free to comment.

Arminian Authors

  • Dr. Bill Arnold
  • Garett Lee Cockerill
  • Jack Cottrell
  • Maxie Dunnam
  • Leroy Forlines
  • Norman Geisler
  • John Miley
  • Thomas Oden 
  • Roger Olson
  • John Oswalt
  • Paige Patterson
  • Robert E. Picirilli
  • William Burt Pope
  • A. W. Tozer
  • Richard Watson
  • John Wesley
  • Henry Orton Wiley
  • Dr. Ben Witherington 

 

Arminian Publishers

  • Abingdon Press
  • College Press
  • Gospel Publishing House
  • Nazarene Publishing House
  • Randall House
  • Wesleyan Press

Arminian Leaning Publishers

  • Broadman & Holman

 

Calvinist Authors

  • Archibald Alexander
  • James Montgomery Boice
  • John Bunyan
  • Sung Wook Chung
  • R. Scott Clarke
  • Mark Driscoll
  • Jonathan Edwards
  • John Gill
  • Wayne Grudem
  • Charles Hodge
  • Michael Horton
  • Gary Johnson
  • Alan Mabin (Maybin?)
  • John MacArthur
  • Albert Mohler
  • Douglas J. Moo
  • Richard A. Muller
  • A.W. Pink
  • John Piper
  • Rick Ritchie
  • Kim Riddlebarger
  • Phil Schaffs
  • R.C. Sproul
  • Charles Spurgeon
  • B.B. Warfield

 

Calvinist Publishers

  • Banner of Truth
  • Crossbooks
  • Naphtali Press
  • Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing
  • Reformation Heritage
  • Reformation Trust
  • Sovereign Grace Christian Books

Calvinist Leaning Publishers

  • Baker Publishing Group
  • Christian Focus Publications
  • Good News Publisher/Crossway Books

  

I like having a list along these lines because it serves as an aid when trying to keep a soteriological balance in my library.  I haven't updated the list for 2 1/2 years and would appreciate any feedback people are willing to offer.  E.g.

  • Do you think I have any authors or publishers in the wrong category?
  • Are there any authors or publishers you would like added to a category?
  • Are there any publishers that strike a good balance in publishing authors of both soteriological persuasions?

NOTE:  I apologize if it would have been more appropriate to have titled this topic something along the lines of Reformed & Non-Reformed resources rather than Arminian & Calvinist resources.  If more appropriate, I'm willing to start a new topic more appropriately named and place the list there.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 1:36 PM

Rick Ausdahl:
Do you think I have any authors or publishers in the wrong category?

Norman Geisler would definitely object to being called Arminian. He calls himself a modified Calvinist and insists that he is close to Calvin than most who call themselves Calvinists today. Unfortunately, it is not in Logos, but his Chosen, but Free argues this position.

Paige Patterson may be in the same category, but I don't know that for certain.

Rick Ausdahl:
more appropriate to have titled this topic something along the lines of Reformed & Non-Reformed resources

That wold likely be better, but there are varying degrees of Non-Reformed theology. That would likely be a difficult task sorting those.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 7:18 PM

Jack Caviness:

Rick Ausdahl:
Do you think I have any authors or publishers in the wrong category?

Norman Geisler would definitely object to being called Arminian. He calls himself a modified Calvinist and insists that he is close to Calvin than most who call themselves Calvinists today. Unfortunately, it is not in Logos, but his Chosen, but Free argues this position.

Paige Patterson may be in the same category, but I don't know that for certain.

Rick Ausdahl:
more appropriate to have titled this topic something along the lines of Reformed & Non-Reformed resources

That wold likely be better, but there are varying degrees of Non-Reformed theology. That would likely be a difficult task sorting those.

Thanks, Jack!

When I started this thread in 2012, I was just getting my feet wet (actually just my toes) in the Arminian/Calvinist debate and was struggling not only to understand the Biblical and Philosophical bases/reasons for each view,  I was also trying to get a handle on to which camp various authors and publishers belonged.  I had just heard Norman Geisler for the first time--his topic was "Why I'm not a five-point Calvinist", and much of what he said struck me as very Arminian in tone/content.  But it seems I incorrectly understood that if he wasn't a five-point Calvinist that he simply wasn't a CalvinistEmbarrassed

I don't recall exactly how I came to place Paige Patterson, but I "think" it was based on some things he had written/said that sounded very Arminian in tone.  I did just recently watch a very cordial discussion between Paige and Roger Olson though, and I now realize that while Paige and Roger agreed on many points, and while Roger jokingly told Paige he thought Paige was an Arminian but just didn't realize it, I think Paige would prefer to see his name included in the Calvinist camp.  Wink

Bottom line--I'll move both Norman and Paige to the list of Calvinist authors/theologians.  Smile

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 8:38 PM

A history professor and friend of Patterson told me Patterson is Amyraldian. IE 4 points.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 24 2015 2:29 AM

Rick Ausdahl:
Bottom line--I'll move both Norman and Paige to the list of Calvinist authors/theologians.  Smile

Not sure that they would really fit in either camp. Geisler, like myself, could best be described as a 2-1/2 point Calvinist Big Smile

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 24 2015 6:40 AM

Guess I'd best think about starting a third category along the lines of "Amyraldians and 2 1/2 Point Calvinists".  Big Smile

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 25 2015 6:20 PM

This is an updated list of authors and publishers.

Please note I am not personally familiar with every author and publisher.  Many of these entries are based on input from other forum members or from things I've read.  Based on input from forum members, I moved Norman Geisler and Paige Patterson from the Arminian list to the Calvinist list and added a note after their names.  If you feel there are errors in the list, feel free to comment.

Arminian Authors

  • Dr. Bill Arnold
  • Garett Lee Cockerill
  • Jack Cottrell
  • Maxie Dunnam
  • Leroy Forlines
  • John Miley
  • Thomas Oden 
  • Roger Olson
  • John Oswalt
  • Robert E. Picirilli
  • William Burt Pope
  • A. W. Tozer
  • Richard Watson
  • John Wesley
  • Henry Orton Wiley
  • Dr. Ben Witherington 

 

Arminian Publishers

  • Abingdon Press
  • College Press
  • Gospel Publishing House
  • Nazarene Publishing House
  • Randall House
  • Wesleyan Press

Arminian Leaning Publishers

  • Broadman & Holman

 

Calvinist Authors

  • Archibald Alexander
  • James Montgomery Boice
  • John Bunyan
  • Sung Wook Chung
  • R. Scott Clarke
  • Mark Driscoll
  • Jonathan Edwards
  • Norman Geisler  (But not a Five-Pointer)
  • John Gill
  • Wayne Grudem
  • Charles Hodge
  • Michael Horton
  • Gary Johnson
  • Alan Mabin (Maybin?)
  • John MacArthur
  • Albert Mohler
  • Douglas J. Moo
  • Richard A. Muller
  • Paige Patterson  (But not a Five-Pointer)
  • A.W. Pink
  • John Piper
  • Rick Ritchie
  • Kim Riddlebarger
  • Phil Schaffs
  • R.C. Sproul
  • Charles Spurgeon
  • B.B. Warfield

 

Calvinist Publishers

  • Banner of Truth
  • Crossbooks
  • Naphtali Press
  • Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing
  • Reformation Heritage
  • Reformation Trust
  • Sovereign Grace Christian Books

Calvinist Leaning Publishers

  • Baker Publishing Group
  • Christian Focus Publications
  • Good News Publisher/Crossway Books
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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 25 2015 6:38 PM

Rick Ausdahl:

  • Norma Geisler  (But not a Five-Pointer)

Hi Rick,

I don't want to discourage you from compiling your list, as it may be helpful to many.

But ...

In addition to pointing out the spelling error of the first name, it is also fairly certain

that Geisler defines himself as a 5 (not 4) point Calvinist in "Chosen but free".

The dispute of many (James White, Potters Freedom) is that Geisler does not

follow their particular interpretation of the 5 points, but interprets them closer to

what John Calvin himself had believed.

In CBF, Geisler distinguished between "moderate" and "extreme" Calvinism,

and placed himself into the "moderate" camp.

Not sure how you can make everyone happy and still be accurate. I personally

have always felt that both Calvinism and Arminianism are a sort of theological

false dichotomy. You are expected to choose one or the other, although both

clearly contain elements of both truth and error. Short of having two Calvinist

groupings, I am not sure how I would handle this.

John

Wikipedia:

Geisler considers himself a “moderate Calvinist," as expressed in his book Chosen but Free (Harvest House, 2001) and Systematic Theology, in One Volume (Harvest House, 2012). On the Five Points of Calvinism, he believes (1) Total depravity extends to the whole person but does not destroy the image of God in fallen human beings; (2) Election is unconditional from the standpoint of God’s giving it and only one condition for human’s receiving it—faith; (3) Election is unlimited in its scope—Christ died for all mankind—but limited in its application to only the elect; (4) Grace is irresistible on the willing but does not force the unwilling; (5) All those who are regenerate will, by God’s grace, persevere to the end and be saved.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 25 2015 7:15 PM

John:

Rick Ausdahl:

  • Norma Geisler  (But not a Five-Pointer)

Hi Rick,

I don't want to discourage you from compiling your list, as it may be helpful to many.

But ...

In addition to pointing out the spelling error of the first name, it is also fairly certain

that Geisler defines himself as a 5 (not 4) point Calvinist in "Chosen but free".

The dispute of many (James White, Potters Freedom) is that Geisler does not

follow their particular interpretation of the 5 points, but interprets them closer to

what John Calvin himself had believed.

In CBF, Geisler distinguished between "moderate" and "extreme" Calvinism,

and placed himself into the "moderate" camp.

Not sure how you can make everyone happy and still be accurate. I personally

have always felt that both Calvinism and Arminianism are a sort of theological

false dichotomy. You are expected to choose one or the other, although both

clearly contain elements of both truth and error. Short of having two Calvinist

groupings, I am not sure how I would handle this.

John

Wikipedia:

Geisler considers himself a “moderate Calvinist," as expressed in his book Chosen but Free (Harvest House, 2001) and Systematic Theology, in One Volume (Harvest House, 2012). On the Five Points of Calvinism, he believes (1) Total depravity extends to the whole person but does not destroy the image of God in fallen human beings; (2) Election is unconditional from the standpoint of God’s giving it and only one condition for human’s receiving it—faith; (3) Election is unlimited in its scope—Christ died for all mankind—but limited in its application to only the elect; (4) Grace is irresistible on the willing but does not force the unwilling; (5) All those who are regenerate will, by God’s grace, persevere to the end and be saved.

Thanks, John.  I rather doubt Norman would like to be introduced as Ms. Geisler, so the spelling has been corrected.  Smile

Regarding Norman's position, I think I'll hold off on changing my note for the time-being, as my reason for seeing him as not being a five-point Calvinist is a message/lecture he gave titled "Five Reasons why I am not a Five-Point Calvinist".

In regard to making everyone happy, I never deluded myself insofar as thinking that possible, although it is my desire to be avoid offending anyone if possible.  Angel  And as long as forum members stick to the purpose of this thread, which is simply to help categorize authors and publishers--NOT to discuss the merits of any theological positions--I think we'll all be in a good position to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.

However ... if I'm mistaken, and any attempts to refine where on the spectrums of Arminianism or Calivinism an author falls, I'll just remove any/all such fine-tunings and hope that at least there will be a consensus as to which main camp an author is most closely aligned. Wink

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 25 2015 9:27 PM

Rick Ausdahl:

Regarding Norman's position, I think I'll hold off on changing my note for the time-being, as my reason for seeing him as not being a five-point Calvinist is a message/lecture he gave titled "Five Reasons why I am not a Five-Point Calvinist".

Thats interesting. I did a search on google and sure enough, you are correct, Geisler did give a lecture back in 2009 with that title.

I do not know whether this represents a change in his view or not. I suppose it is possible.

Nevertheless, the statement "Five Reasons why I am not a Five-Point Calvinist" is not an admission to being a 4 point Calvinist.

And since your list is regarding categorization of printed works, not lectures, it is very clear that Geislers printed works state that

he is a moderate Calvinist, not a 4 point Calvinist. (including his theology, published in 2012).

John Smile

 

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