is the L5 platform available for download now?
I mean the free 'engine' as it seems to be called commonly.
also can you post the Link please?
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This is supposed to arrive sometime in the first quarter of 2013
Regards, SteveF
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No, the free basic engine is not available at this time. Logos has stated it will be made available early next year. Currently available are:
4. A very nice video about what's new in L5
hope this helps.
David
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Hi,
it's not that I want the 'free version' only,
it is just that I want to test and see if i can install it on my computer with no internet before considering purchasing one of the other versions. (yes that computer cannot, will not, and never can connect to the internet).
so I just want the free version to try. Im not interested in going to the effort of buying then returning - i just want to try it on the free version first.
thanks for the info.
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Luigi Sam said:
it is just that I want to test and see if i can install it on my computer with no internet before considering purchasing one of the other versions. (yes that computer cannot, will not, and never can connect to the internet).
Then you should attempt it with the free Logos4 engine. Method 1 at http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers has the information you need to install both Logos 4 and Logos 5, but use the link to install Logos 4 (on another computer).
Note that you must have an installation via Internet to get the necessary Logos installers + download any MS installers. Logos 5 needs Win Vista or later.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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You should probably call customer service and ask about it.
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maybe, ... it all gets a bit much..
- pay then test then refund or
- test with L4, then pay then test with L5 then refund
especially since an offline installation should be the default distribution method...
and it is made difficult on purpose for the sake of gathering statistics no doubt...
hmmm its not difficult, but it doesn't have to be difficult by design either...
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Luigi Sam said:
especially since an offline installation should be the default distribution method...
Why? More and more software is primarily available for download. Both L4 and L5 are designed so that the best user experience is online.
Luigi Sam said:and it is made difficult on purpose for the sake of gathering statistics no doubt...
How did you reach this conclusion when one of the preference options is to refuse collection of data for statistical purposes?
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Luigi Sam said:
especially since an offline installation should be the default distribution method...
Wow that is a statement that won't go down well with Mac users as most machines come without a CD drive and software download is the default method.
There are these days huge disadvantages to installing software via CD - DVD - Cassette Tape etc, one being that the software is almost always out of date.
tootle pip
Mike
Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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Luigi Sam said:
especially since an offline installation should be the default distribution method...
Logos 4 and 5 need an online connection for updating resource licenses associated with Logos.com account. Alternative is contacting Logos Customer Service for an offline copy of resource licenses.
After inadvertently upgrading a Logos 4.6a installation to Logos 5.0a on OS X, essentially did a quick offline installation to recreate Logos 4.6a for one OS X user account. Kept two database files: Users and License Manager while moving the rest of Logos4 folder (Data and Documents) to a new location. Downloaded Logos 4.6a SR-3, then opened disk image and "installed" application by coping to desired location. Launched Logos 4 Mac to work offline, which created many folders and SQLite database files along with generic icons appearing on Home Page since the Library had no resources. Entered scan command with path of Data resources from Logos 5.0a, then quit Logos 4.6a SR-3 followed by launching application. The Logos 4.6a SR-3 indexer discovered the resources from Logos 5.0a, copied them and is now indexing.
Note: suspect Logos 5.0a could be installed offline on OS X in same manner as Logos 4.6a SR-3; plan to try it after Logos 4.6a SR-3 indexing completes. Also curious about indexing speed comparison between Logos 4.6a SR-3 and Logos 5.0a
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Hi Jack,
in reply to point 1: I dont want online products - (this isn't just my preference with logos but with all my software that I purchase)
to point 2: download statistics are not included in that option i believe. there are many types of stats / user info sent to logos. Not all are covered or spoken about in detail. - since it has to do with getting a user account - your connection stats are recorded anyway. and since it has to do with downloading resources from a server they are kept for that reason too. both of these are no doubt still collected regardless in that scenario. during which time the software would check your computer for what modules you have (regardless), and would also download all your usage statistics, logs, etc... (maybe a limited set of these later ones a user can decline - not the rest.)
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Hi Mike,
Regarding Mac Users:
Most users on the mac bandwagon are not power users of computers anymore. They are just fashion conscious and most people I know regret wasting their money on them.. Moreover Mac's are stalker-ware. By who? By Apple themselves. Their reputation precedes them with stalking users on their iPhones. I concede that mac has some benefits - but those benefits have dwindled due to their stalker tendencies and because most mac users do not really understand those benefits anyway ... I'd say to anyone wanting a Mac for security reasons to use PCBSD which can be installed on any normal pc/laptop instead.
(oh, one of the benefits of Macs isn't the download store. That too is only supported by mac to be stalker ware too. It wasn't designed to be helpful really..)
Regarding No download via cd / dvd
Well I dont disagree that updates will be required online, However all downloads should be installable offline.
IE:
- The L5 platform should be downloadable as an offline installer.
- The updates should be downloadable as offline downloads. ( Downloadable once a month as an All-in-one) incremental update (all updates since the last months update)
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Luigi Sam said:
Well I dont disagree that updates will be required online, However all downloads should be installable offline.
- The L5 platform should be downloadable as an offline installer.
- The updates should be downloadable as offline downloads. ( Downloadable once a month as an All-in-one) incremental update (all updates since the last months update)
One option is installing Logos 5 for one computer user with Use Internet set to Yes and Automatically download updates set to Yes. Only use online connected Logos 5 to download updated licenses and resources. After online Logos 5 is updated, close application, then copy Users and License Manager database files to offline Logos 5 installation and use scan command in offline Logos 5 to discover, copy, and index resource files from online Logos 5 installation.
Another option is quickly copying an online Logos 5 installation for offline use that includes changing Use Internet set to No and Automatically download updates set to No.
The Logos 4.6a SR-3 indexer discovered the resources from Logos 5.0a, copied them and is now indexing.
After indexing completed, am Thankful for Logos cloud based storage of my Logos documents, etc that downloaded along with many metadata updates.
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Luigi Sam said:
download statistics are not included in that option i believe. there are many types of stats / user info sent to logos. Not all are covered or spoken about in detail. - since it has to do with getting a user account
If installed by DVD there would still be statistics. Or do you suppose that a software company would not keep records of their sales? With this and your next post about Apple "stalker ware" and evaluate of Mac users as stupid, I have decided that you are not seeking meaningful discussion but seeking to create dissension. therefore, I will exit this pointless discussion.
Don't feed the trolls.
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I think you are being easily offended Jack.
Should people not have a mind of their own & express it politely yet with precision and to the point?
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additionally regarding stats: you asked... did you expect me not to elaborate?
and in regards to mac users I didn't say they are stupid. I said mac users are including people with less computer tech knowledge these days & are not just the extreme computer tech geeks. These users might be rich, and/or have degrees in other areas. In regards to computer tech knowledge they might be well behind in knowledge and expertise. If this is equiv to calling them stupid then every one is stupid if we measure them based on their weakest points of knowledge or expertise... hmmm.
All the best to you regardless of your opinion of me.
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Luigi Sam said:
additionally regarding stats: ...
Gentle reminder: the primary focus of the Logos Bible Software Forums is using Logos Bible Software; other forums are appropriate for discussion of malware, psychology, statistics, theology, ....
Thankful for Logos 5, Logos 4, and Libronix 3 applications for OS X and Windows. Logos 5 and Logos 4 are easier to install with online connectivity for resource licensing and downloading.
Looking forward to Logos publicly releasing free Logos 5 software engine. If considering package upgrade and minimal crossgrade, suggest purchasing upgrade first, then minimal crossgrade. If upgrade to Logos 4 Gold or higher, then not need minimal crossgrade.
Thankful for many Logos mobile apps on iOS, Android, and Windows 8.
Thankful for many Logos web sites, including http://biblia.com
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yes perhaps I didn't get to my point about mac's and the comment originally made regarding it and installing logos, which was:
"mac generally installs software without offline installers"...
the point I was eventually meaning to make (but I think I forgot to make) was that the world shouldn't follow the trends of apple.
again I apologize for being long winded.
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Note: suspect Logos 5.0a could be installed offline on OS X in same manner as Logos 4.6a SR-3; plan to try it after Logos 4.6a SR-3 indexing completes. Also curious about indexing speed comparison between Logos 4.6a SR-3 and Logos 5.0a
Same manner works. Logos 5.0a took a bit over 11 hours to completely index resources while Logos 4.6a SR-3 took 25 hours. Thankful for Logos 5.0a indexing speed improvement.
Thankful for Logos cloud based backup of Documents, which is sync'd (restored) when working online.
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