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Graeme Adams | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012 1:35 PM

Can anyone tell me what these fine lines and 'Highlights' indicate?

(Appearing in L5 various resources.)

 

 

 

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 6 2012 1:50 PM

Those are community highlights. It is a new feature in L5.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 6 2012 1:53 PM

Yes it is community highlighting. It is a new feature. 

Essentially it is an aggregation of all the reference points users highlight. Note that it doesn't care how you highlight. Once a breakover threshold has been reached and it becomes statistically significant, it becomes a popular passage.

You can see that fourteen other people in this instance have highlighted that passage.

 

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 6 2012 1:56 PM

Graeme Adams:
Can anyone tell me what these fine lines and 'Highlights' indicate?

These are community highlights. Logos collects anonymous user data, including what is highlighted. This works the same way the Kindle highlighting works. You should be able to toggle these on and off through the Visual Filters menu (three colored circles). It's called "Popular highlights." If you right-click on the item, you can disable in all resources if you want. Note that the option only appears for resources that highlights available for that resource.

EDIT: I believe you have to close/reopen Logos for any changes to take effect.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Graeme Adams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 6 2012 11:11 PM

Thank you all for your speedy and helpful replies.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 3:29 AM

Richard DeRuiter:
EDIT: I believe you have to close/reopen Logos for any changes to take effect.

That is not necessary. Changes in tis setting take place instantly. Just tried it in 131 Christians Everyone Should Know, a resource known to have Community Highlights. Toggled it on and then off—Worked every time.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 7:53 AM

Jack Caviness:

Richard DeRuiter:
EDIT: I believe you have to close/reopen Logos for any changes to take effect.

That is not necessary. Changes in tis setting take place instantly. Just tried it in 131 Christians Everyone Should Know, a resource known to have Community Highlights. Toggled it on and then off—Worked every time.

Cool!

I was going by an old post that said this was necessary. I've never used these and turned them off the first day they were available.

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 8:05 AM

Jack ... are you referring to seeing the underlines for THAT resource, or ALL resources. I turned mine off for ALL resources, and now can't find a resource that might allow me to turn them back on (or maybe as Richard mentions, I need to restart Logos?).

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 8:19 AM

Hi DMB

DMB:
I turned mine off for ALL resources, and now can't find a resource that might allow me to turn them back on

I've just tried this - disabling the highlights for all resources.

I then opened "131 Christians everyone should know" and the VF option was there. Do you have that resource?

DMB:
(or maybe as Richard mentions, I need to restart Logos?).

I didn't need to restart anything.

Graham 

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 8:20 AM

Richard DeRuiter:

Jack Caviness:

Richard DeRuiter:
EDIT: I believe you have to close/reopen Logos for any changes to take effect.

That is not necessary. Changes in tis setting take place instantly. Just tried it in 131 Christians Everyone Should Know, a resource known to have Community Highlights. Toggled it on and then off—Worked every time.

Cool!

I was going by an old post that said this was necessary. I've never used these and turned them off the first day they were available.

Users who have the desktop application open when we add the first popular highlights for any given resource may have to reopen the application in order to see those highlights—but only if they've already opened that resource during the current session.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 8:24 AM

Thank you David.

Jack ... I'm probably out of luck (don't have that resource). Presumably you kind of have to watch the little olympic symbol to see if it changes color.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 8:40 AM

David Mitchell:
Users who have the desktop application open when we add the first popular highlights for any given resource may have to reopen the application in order to see those highlights—but only if they've already opened that resource during the current session.

So this info is pushed to users (vs. pulled by users), even with this feature is set as "Do not show in any resource"?

If so, could this decision be reexamined?

Grounds:

  1. I think it would be assumed that a user who disabled this feature for all resources, probably would not expect the information he/she decided not to use to exist on their machine. It could also be assumed that such a user, would expect a download to occur after re-enabling the feature.
  2. I would think a simple "switch" could be devised in the program to disable/enable downloading this information toggled to "disable," if a user ticks "Do not show in any resource."Not that I really know, but this seems like a simple On/Off (0/1; Yes/No) decision.
  3. A simple notice to a user who had disabled, but then re-enables this feature, that a restart is required for the information to be visible, would be enough to keep the tech support lines from ringing (much) over this issue.Though, I'm not sure the current UI allows this. Alternatively, a notice could be given in the right click menu for the "Do not show..." item that included "(re-enabling this feature will require restarting L4)" - I know a bit long, but it's a start.
  4. The added bandwidth for downloading unwanted data though not an issue for me, is for some.

 

 

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 12:37 PM

Richard DeRuiter:
A simple notice to a user who had disabled, but then re-enables this feature, that a restart is required for the information to be visible

I had disabled the feature. When I checked the "Popular Highlights" box in Visual Filters, the highlights appeared instantly without a restart. This has worked with two different resources.

DMB, do you have the Pillar commentary on John? Popular Highlights also exist for that resource. Other than those two, I have not had enough interest to investigate. I have no problem with Logos compiling and making this information available, but it really does not interest me—very much.

EDIT: Reread David's post. Now I may understand what Richard is saying—no guarantee however Big Smile

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 1:58 PM

Richard DeRuiter:

So this info is pushed to users (vs. pulled by users), even with this feature is set as "Do not show in any resource"?

If so, could this decision be reexamined?

If you have turned off the visual filter in all resources, the app may make a request—once per app session—to determine if a resource has popular highlights (so that we know whether to show the option to turn them back on), but it won't retrieve any of the highlights themselves.

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