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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2013 10:13 AM

I realize this is primarily a publisher issue, but one problem that makes me hesitate to recommend Faithlife Study Bible to my church (a large % of whom are young adults) is that it will be difficult for them to obtain their Bible of preference, the NIV 1984.  Any other translation they can buy pretty reasonably from Logos.

If you don't already own a license for NIV 1984, it is expensive / difficult to get one.  And many of my congregation aren't interested in changing Bible translations.  Given the widespread popularity of NIV 1984, I would imagine this is an obstacle for FSB to overcome.  That is indeed a shame since it is such a wonderful resource.  I tend to use FSB in my personal devotions now, but I already have a license for NIV 1984.  If I did not, I would not use it much.

I do wish the publisher would reconsider making NIV 1984 more available.  The many who prefer it to the new NIV simply are not going to change any time soon.  And when they do change, for most it will not be to the new NIV.

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Aaron Boydston | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 6:40 AM

Yeah, how do we bug the publisher to make it available? It seems like a very redicuous thing to do...

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William Gabriel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 7:21 AM

You may want to try the "Contact Us" button at http://zondervan.com/about/faq

I don't think this is a matter of them being out of touch though. There has been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth over this issue, and the publisher seems to want to make it a doctrinal issue. If they listened to their customers, I'm pretty sure they would have brought the '84 back by now.

They are forcing you to choose a new version. You can delay as long as possible, but they want you to move to the NIV11. I wonder if they've thought through how much "customer base" they may lose by forcing people to choose a new translation. If they have to consider the NIV11 as something distinct now, why not evaluate other translations (ESV, HCSB, NASB)? The day will come when the NIV84 simply can't be presumed available in a given church body.

This reminds me of why I left Windows. Microsoft monkeys with it so much with each release that I felt okay investing in OS X since it would be an investment in "new Windows" anyway. They're still a big player today, just as the NIV will remain a big player for a while, but I think they're relegating themselves to a much smaller market share than their full potential by changing what people know and love to what they think people should know and love.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 8:03 AM

Aaron Boydston:

Yeah, how do we bug the publisher to make it available? It seems like a very redicuous thing to do...

Actually Zondervan has no control over this.

If you want access to the NIV84 to be restored contact Biblica, who owns the copyright to the NIV and who dictates the policy to Zondervan about what they may/may not publish: http://www.biblica.com/contact-us/

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 8:55 AM

Just for giggles I called Accordance and they told me that if I bought the new NIV that I could get a copy of the old NIV. They said this is not a published offer but a concession from the publisher. So it would appear there may be room for Logos to work on getting this for its customers as well.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 8:57 AM

Bobby Terhune:

Just for giggles I called Accordance and they told me that if I bought the new NIV that I could get a copy of the old NIV. They said this is not a published offer but a concession from the publisher. So it would appear there may be room for Logos to work on getting this for its customers as well.

That would be great!

 Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

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Gordon Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 2:16 PM

If you and your congregation can cope with minor spelling variations, Logos still offers the Anglicised version https://www.logos.com/product/29979/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 11 2013 2:35 PM

Gordon Jones:

If you and your congregation can cope with minor spelling variations, Logos still offers the Anglicised version https://www.logos.com/product/29979/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised

note the Anglicised version is shown as not available in the US or Canada

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