Favorite Visual Filters

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Richard Lyall | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 10 2009 6:48 PM

Thanks ... I've tried to avoid stronger primary colours otherwise it looks a mess, but the more muted colours work better.

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Dan Sheppard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 10 2009 7:28 PM

But the idea of black and red makes me think that someone is breaking a CARDINAL rule or two.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 10 2009 8:56 PM

Very cool Richard. Great idea!

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 4:32 AM

Richard Lyall:

OK here's mine. It's 3 visual filters designed to work together visually as 3 layers.

Key features

  1. I've designed each layer to use a particular type of highlight (e.g. moods use coloured backgrounds, tenses use underlines, and part of speech uses text colours. This gives a visual consistency - you know which aspect of the highlight to look for to assess tense or mood.
  2. I've tried to pick colours and styles that are intuitive e.g. perfect = double underline and pluperfect = triple underline. Green = present (i.e. ongoing) and red = aorist (punctiliar). Orange = imperative (for action).
  3. YOu can mix 'n' match according to your interest at the time.

I'm noticing many things just by observing the highlights - it's like superimposing a verb river on the text, if that were possible.

Thanks
Richard

 

 

Hey...can we swap filters like baseball cards? I'd like a set of Richard's filters.

 

 

Robert Pavich

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 5:20 AM

Robert Pavich:

Hey...can we swap filters like baseball cards? I'd like a set of Richard's filters.

I was actually just thinking something along these lines. Collections, Visual Filters, and CBV syntax should all have the ability to "make public" they would then go into a gallery, like MS Office Templates online. Users can look through the gallery and upload the items. That way those who don't want to learn syntax can benefit from those who do.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 5:53 AM

Philip Spitzer:
Collections, Visual Filters, and CBV syntax should all have the ability to "make public" they would then go into a gallery, like MS Office Templates online. Users can look through the gallery and upload the items.
A Public repository accessible from within the program or even download via web browser and install - what a great idea!

This would be great for all of those items mentioned, not to mention reading plans like the ones on the wiki now.(Reading Plans )

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 6:01 AM

There's a lot of online file sharing sites that are free...

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 7:18 AM

Of course there are Robert, and I'd be willing to host them myself.  But Providing some way to incorporate them into Logos would be quite cool.

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 11 2009 7:35 AM

Richard Lyall:
OK here's mine. It's 3 visual filters designed to work together visually as 3 layers.

would it be possible to show the visual filter definitions as well as the resulting appearance?

 

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 7:03 AM

I know we have a WIki page on how to create a visual filter, but I think it would be worthwhile to post snap shots of the favorite visual filters there as well. I know I have found them useful.

 

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 12:40 PM

Terry Poperszky:

I know we have a WIki page on how to create a visual filter, but I think it would be worthwhile to post snap shots of the favorite visual filters there as well. I know I have found them useful.

Good idea. I've just added a couple to get the ball rolling.

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James Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 26 2010 5:15 PM

I too like the filter capability and sometimes find myself wanting more filter options. But I've also noticed this little side effect: I have a tendency to focus on the color or filter technique to determine what I'm looking at rather than looking directly at the text and determining what it is. I sometimes wonder if the filter will ultimately become a crutch. Anybody else worry about that?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 26 2010 5:19 PM

James Thompson:

I too like the filter capability and sometimes find myself wanting more filter options. But I've also noticed this little side effect: I have a tendency to focus on the color or filter technique to determine what I'm looking at rather than looking directly at the text and determining what it is. I sometimes wonder if the filter will ultimately become a crutch. Anybody else worry about that?

You can always turn the filters on and off in the Visual Filters menu.

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 26 2010 5:53 PM

James Thompson:
I sometimes wonder if the filter will ultimately become a crutch.

If you are crippled, a crutch is a wonderful tool.

James, I understand your concerns, I view the near instantaneous searching capabilities go Logos win the same light. If I ever had to go back to paper, would I have the diligence to do the same research that I do with Logos?  Probably not.

Each of us has to look at our own study habits and decide what we are comfortable with.

 

 

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James Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 26 2010 7:24 PM

Terry Poperszky:

James, I understand your concerns, I view the near instantaneous searching capabilities go Logos win the same light. If I ever had to go back to paper, would I have the diligence to do the same research that I do with Logos?  Probably not.

Hey! Don't get me wrong. I love the technology and every capability it brings. As a matter of fact, bring on more. However, I'm also concerned that the technology assists my facility with a language and not help erode it.... sorta like the invention of the calculator and the diminishing of analytical thought if you know what I mean.

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 12:05 PM

Richard Lyall:
OK here's mine. It's 3 visual filters designed to work together visually as 3 layers.

 

Very cool. I tried a simplified version and like the results. One question comes up. I'd like the Morph filter to work on NA27 and LXX, but Logos doesn't seem to allow me to specify "NA27 AND LXX" for a range. Do I need separate filters for them?

Have a great day,
jmac

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Dewayne Davis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 12:17 PM

I am using the visual filter to make the markup easier to see in the LDGNT.

 

 

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Jarred Edgecombe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 1:06 PM

Boy! You guys are way too sophisticated for me. I prefer a very simple Greek verb filter that lets me see imperatives, subjunctives and participles. Here:

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2010 1:58 PM

Jim,

In answer to your question, you have you make a seperate set of filters for different morphologies.

To ALL, 

FOR EXAMPLE: I have 3. GRAMCORD, LOGOS and (this last one though I've rarely used it) SWANSON. I select ENTIRE BIBLE, in ALL RESOURCES for each of them. [This activates the Lexham LXX interlinear which is coded to LOGOS morph.] I use the same filter set in each which maintains visual consistency. Once you create one that you like, with a few modifications owing to differences in the morphologies - duplicate it under the other morphology types.

CASES

Mine are as follows for the cases:

GRAMCORD Nominatives ALL but the last one are BROWN TEXT:      (@NN, @R??N, @JN, @)V??P??N) The last one is a PARTICIPLE for which I use ORANGE HIGHLIGHTER (which doesn't look as bad as it sounds)

GRAMCORD Accusatives ALL are BLUE TEXT except the participle which is BLUE HIGHLIGHT (@NA, @R??A, @DA, @JA    and the participle: @V??P??A)

REPEAT THIS FOR THE GRAMCORD GENITIVE (using GREEN TEXT and GREEN HIGHLIGHTER for the part. )

SAME FOR GRAMCORD DATIVE (using RED TEXT and RED HIGHLIGHTER)

The GRAMCORD Vocative I use OUTLINE TEXT

NOTE: these can all be activated or de-activated at will with the checkboxes under the three circles icon. Also, for the other morphologies, I name them with the morphology type first and then the case. Also, the participles scheme can show me the CASE and the VERB forms in most instances.

now the verbs:

I have experimented with these for quite a while under L3 and then as L4 "came alive" I was able to re-create almost ALL of my previous work in it.

(IMPERATIVES: @V???M [LARGE TEXT]; INFINITIVES: @V????N [ALL CAPS]; OPTATIVE: @V????O? [ORANGE FOREGROUND]; AORIST: @V??A????? [RED FOREGROUND]; PRESENT: @V??P? [GREEN FOREGROUND]; FUTURE: @V??F?? [YELLOW FOREGROUND]; IMPERFECT: @V??I?? [BLUE FOREGROUND]; PERFECT: @V??R?? [PURPLE FOREGROUND]; PLUPERFECT: @V??L?? [PURPLE FOREGROUND w/ Red Underline]; SUBJUNCTIVE: @V????S [YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER]

FOR ALL INDICATIVES, I USE AN EXCLAMATION POINT AFTER THE WORD: @V????I [ !  ]  

NOTE: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BET. THE MORPHOLOGIES: you have to adapt these ideas to each - but the visual filters can be consistent.

MOODS:

For moods I use :

ACTIVE: bold ; PASSIVE: > <   one on each side of the word    AND MIDDLE: I use nothing now but  I used to use     ] brackets [

It looks great and works very well thanks to the Logos team Smile

 

 

 

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 31 2010 4:44 PM

Ron Corbett:
In answer to your question, you have you make a seperate set of filters for different morphologies.

Thanks Ron. I appreciate the detail you gave us. I'm going to start with your filters to see what will work for me. This is a really nice feature and its nice to have such good examples.

Have a great day,
jmac

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