What's your favorite visual filter? Below is mine, making it easy to distinguish between singular and plural noun and verbs.
Philip,
there's no accounting for taste....
Cool. I hadn't discovered Visual Filters yet. There's still so much to learn!
Ugg, Philip, your Bible text looks like a construction zone.
[:D] Precisely! and construction zones were meant to be notices, so I will take that as a complement. It's definitely one of those filters I only turn on when I need it.
Philip, there's no accounting for taste....
What do you mean taste? Why would I be concerned about how Logos tastes? Damian, have you been licking your screen again? Licking is for the dogs...leave it to us professionals.
Licking is for the dogs...leave it to us professionals.
I have to leave this one alone....
Phil, thx, have incorporated a couple of your ideas into mine
if anyone doesnt know, you can rearrange these by dragging (if you are a neat freak)
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It was for this very reason that this icon came into the world...
But not my color scheme? Pitty.
I do like where i see you going with this, though, especially with the single and double line for singular and Plurals.
Are you saying there was a reason no one asked my opinion when debating church carpet colors?
I actually like Phil's - It reveals his true nature:
An on fire "Closet Charismatic"
Its OK to come out of the closet Phil :P, you dont have to hide away my friend...
Its true. To give my Charismatic gifts a whirl one time I hit myself upside the head. God then gave me a prophecy and I knew just where to find the Advil.
What's your favorite visual filter?
I still haven't figured out how to get the visual filter I really want - all the words that require context to carry meaning. Yes, my head is into deixis at the moment. At least I'm not even thinking of it identifying the type of deixis.[:D]
I still haven't figured out how to get the visual filter I really want - all the words that require context to carry meaning.
That's the default. With the other visual filters off, the words that require context are black.
I personally love your answer ... however, the silly semiotic part of me says "hey, wait a minute" [:D]
OK here's mine. It's 3 visual filters designed to work together visually as 3 layers.
Key features
I'm noticing many things just by observing the highlights - it's like superimposing a verb river on the text, if that were possible.
ThanksRichard
1. Part of Speech
2. Verb Mood
3. Verb Tense
All 3 together
I love the layering idea. Great!
Richard,
That's quite a useful set of filters, good idea.
Thanks ... I've tried to avoid stronger primary colours otherwise it looks a mess, but the more muted colours work better.
But the idea of black and red makes me think that someone is breaking a CARDINAL rule or two.
Very cool Richard. Great idea!
OK here's mine. It's 3 visual filters designed to work together visually as 3 layers. Key features I've designed each layer to use a particular type of highlight (e.g. moods use coloured backgrounds, tenses use underlines, and part of speech uses text colours. This gives a visual consistency - you know which aspect of the highlight to look for to assess tense or mood. I've tried to pick colours and styles that are intuitive e.g. perfect = double underline and pluperfect = triple underline. Green = present (i.e. ongoing) and red = aorist (punctiliar). Orange = imperative (for action). YOu can mix 'n' match according to your interest at the time. I'm noticing many things just by observing the highlights - it's like superimposing a verb river on the text, if that were possible. ThanksRichard
Hey...can we swap filters like baseball cards? I'd like a set of Richard's filters.
I was actually just thinking something along these lines. Collections, Visual Filters, and CBV syntax should all have the ability to "make public" they would then go into a gallery, like MS Office Templates online. Users can look through the gallery and upload the items. That way those who don't want to learn syntax can benefit from those who do.
Collections, Visual Filters, and CBV syntax should all have the ability to "make public" they would then go into a gallery, like MS Office Templates online. Users can look through the gallery and upload the items.
This would be great for all of those items mentioned, not to mention reading plans like the ones on the wiki now.(Reading Plans)
There's a lot of online file sharing sites that are free...
Of course there are Robert, and I'd be willing to host them myself. But Providing some way to incorporate them into Logos would be quite cool.
would it be possible to show the visual filter definitions as well as the resulting appearance?
I know we have a WIki page on how to create a visual filter, but I think it would be worthwhile to post snap shots of the favorite visual filters there as well. I know I have found them useful.
Good idea. I've just added a couple to get the ball rolling.
I too like the filter capability and sometimes find myself wanting more filter options. But I've also noticed this little side effect: I have a tendency to focus on the color or filter technique to determine what I'm looking at rather than looking directly at the text and determining what it is. I sometimes wonder if the filter will ultimately become a crutch. Anybody else worry about that?
You can always turn the filters on and off in the Visual Filters menu.
I sometimes wonder if the filter will ultimately become a crutch.
If you are crippled, a crutch is a wonderful tool.
James, I understand your concerns, I view the near instantaneous searching capabilities go Logos win the same light. If I ever had to go back to paper, would I have the diligence to do the same research that I do with Logos? Probably not.
Each of us has to look at our own study habits and decide what we are comfortable with.
Hey! Don't get me wrong. I love the technology and every capability it brings. As a matter of fact, bring on more. However, I'm also concerned that the technology assists my facility with a language and not help erode it.... sorta like the invention of the calculator and the diminishing of analytical thought if you know what I mean.
Very cool. I tried a simplified version and like the results. One question comes up. I'd like the Morph filter to work on NA27 and LXX, but Logos doesn't seem to allow me to specify "NA27 AND LXX" for a range. Do I need separate filters for them?
I am using the visual filter to make the markup easier to see in the LDGNT.
Boy! You guys are way too sophisticated for me. I prefer a very simple Greek verb filter that lets me see imperatives, subjunctives and participles. Here:
Jim,
In answer to your question, you have you make a seperate set of filters for different morphologies.
To ALL,
FOR EXAMPLE: I have 3. GRAMCORD, LOGOS and (this last one though I've rarely used it) SWANSON. I select ENTIRE BIBLE, in ALL RESOURCES for each of them. [This activates the Lexham LXX interlinear which is coded to LOGOS morph.] I use the same filter set in each which maintains visual consistency. Once you create one that you like, with a few modifications owing to differences in the morphologies - duplicate it under the other morphology types.
CASES
Mine are as follows for the cases:
GRAMCORD Nominatives ALL but the last one are BROWN TEXT: (@NN, @R??N, @JN, @)V??P??N) The last one is a PARTICIPLE for which I use ORANGE HIGHLIGHTER (which doesn't look as bad as it sounds)
GRAMCORD Accusatives ALL are BLUE TEXT except the participle which is BLUE HIGHLIGHT (@NA, @R??A, @DA, @JA and the participle: @V??P??A)
REPEAT THIS FOR THE GRAMCORD GENITIVE (using GREEN TEXT and GREEN HIGHLIGHTER for the part. )
SAME FOR GRAMCORD DATIVE (using RED TEXT and RED HIGHLIGHTER)
The GRAMCORD Vocative I use OUTLINE TEXT
NOTE: these can all be activated or de-activated at will with the checkboxes under the three circles icon. Also, for the other morphologies, I name them with the morphology type first and then the case. Also, the participles scheme can show me the CASE and the VERB forms in most instances.
now the verbs:
I have experimented with these for quite a while under L3 and then as L4 "came alive" I was able to re-create almost ALL of my previous work in it.
(IMPERATIVES: @V???M [LARGE TEXT]; INFINITIVES: @V????N [ALL CAPS]; OPTATIVE: @V????O? [ORANGE FOREGROUND]; AORIST: @V??A????? [RED FOREGROUND]; PRESENT: @V??P? [GREEN FOREGROUND]; FUTURE: @V??F?? [YELLOW FOREGROUND]; IMPERFECT: @V??I?? [BLUE FOREGROUND]; PERFECT: @V??R?? [PURPLE FOREGROUND]; PLUPERFECT: @V??L?? [PURPLE FOREGROUND w/ Red Underline]; SUBJUNCTIVE: @V????S [YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER]
FOR ALL INDICATIVES, I USE AN EXCLAMATION POINT AFTER THE WORD: @V????I [ ! ]
NOTE: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BET. THE MORPHOLOGIES: you have to adapt these ideas to each - but the visual filters can be consistent.
MOODS:
For moods I use :
ACTIVE: bold ; PASSIVE: > < one on each side of the word AND MIDDLE: I use nothing now but I used to use ] brackets [
It looks great and works very well thanks to the Logos team [:)]
Thanks Ron. I appreciate the detail you gave us. I'm going to start with your filters to see what will work for me. This is a really nice feature and its nice to have such good examples.
You're welcome Jim,
I could also say that (earlier on) I did use a different idea for the active mood: < > which to me signifies an action going outward where the passive > < symbols I used can signify an action going inward (being acted upon from without). This frees up entirely the bold text, which I sometimes use for my prepositions. The prepositions are important for seeing clauses or phrases.
One more thing: I use NA27 w/ GRAMCORD in interlinear (usually 2 lines). Check out Luke 6 the parable of the wise and foolish builder. See what your visual filter brings out that is otherwise hidden: [an aorist, active, indicative verb (deepened) is usually translated as an adverb]. Interesting!!! This is only a small example of the help to be gained with these filters.
NOTE: For now, whenever I have LOGOS running the indexer ... I can get some false results in the Visual Filters. It is not a big issue though; just wait till indexing finishes and the filters should be fine.
