NIDNTT and Dictionary for Theological Interpretation
Which one is worth the money? I could get Dictionary for Theological Interpretation of the Bible for a slightly reduced price. The link to the NIDNTT is: New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (4 vols.).
Which one had better scholars?
You can find questions I have, in: I have Harper's. A bit more adv. dict.? (presupp. a bit of Gk)
I don't need long articles like in the AYBD.
I don't have that many dictionaries. I don't want to buy many more either.
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They're two different dictionaries, and not really comparable.
I don't have the first, but it's for theological interpretation, so it's organized by topic.
The second is more of a word study dictionary, and is organized alphabetically by Greek word.
Both are reference works produced by top scholars. The Denver Seminary NT Bibliography shows both as top picks.
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This article will give you a flavor of how DTIB attempts to move across various theologies.
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."If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Maybe I could get both. Anyone more with an opinion whether NIDNTT is really good?
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Unix living in celibacy said:
Maybe I could get both. Anyone more with an opinion whether NIDNTT is really good?
From what I have read of your posts you seem to be on a budget. Do you have a base package with the TDNT? If you do I think this would suffice for now. If not the NIDNTT is an excellent resource.
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Well, I have a different priority than books too: saving to buy a moped car, but that's in the long run. I live in city of ~2 million inhabitants in an apartment in a renovated house, so my rent is somewhat high (although I live 12 miles from the city centre).
I want to do well in language and theological studies. What I try to do is to set a limit per category of books, so I don't want a more expensive dictionary than NIDNTT. Even the NIDNTT is too expensive if it's not good.Alan Charles Gielczyk said:From what I have read of your posts you seem to be on a budget.
Yes, OLL:Alan Charles Gielczyk said:Do you have a base package with the TDNT? If you do I think this would suffice for now. If not the NIDNTT is an excellent resource.
Well, maybe that would be good, that might force me to learn a bit of Gk:elnwood said:The second is more of a word study dictionary, and is organized alphabetically by Greek word.
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Thanks, elnwood!
These two have NIDNTT in the bibliography of the syllabus: Gordon–Conwell Theological Seminary NT502: Syllabus. Interpreting the New Testament. Fall 2010
Reformed theological seminary 2010 Spring GREEK EXEGESIS NT506. MINI-SYLLABUS. http://www.rts.edu/Site/Academics/Docs/Syllabi/charlotte/2010-02-3NT506-Greek%20Ex%20Syllabus.pdfAnd Moody Bible Institute has NIDNTT in References: http://www.moody.edu/uploadedFiles/Education/Distance_Learning/Learning_Venues/Online_Studies/syllabus_principles%20of%20discipleship_online.pdf
Florida Christian College (300 students)
Has marked NIDNTT with an asterisk in Lexicons and Dictionaries for Fall Semester 2006:
http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=%22new%20international%20dictionary%20of%20new%20testament%20theology%22%20%22required%20textbooks%22&source=web&cd=13&ved=0CDsQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcc.edu%2Facademics%2Ffaculty%2FLesHardin%2Fdocuments%2FGreek3OrientationSheetFall2006.doc&ei=7NYgUaGLDumq4ATx0YGIBA&usg=AFQjCNF-MZR2r13azPYENdzC4QeukerAOQelnwood said:Both are reference works produced by top scholars. The Denver Seminary NT Bibliography shows both as top picks.
http://www.denverseminary.edu/article/new-testament-exegesis-bibliography-2013/
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Hi Unix living in celibacy,
Is there a seminary or divinity school library near you? I've noticed that you're asking a lot of questions about books you should buy, but the best way to do it is to look at it use it in print and see if you find it useful.
For example, NIDNTT is high on my buy list because I've used it in print and have found it invaluable. If I didn't already have TDNT and TLNT, I probably would have bought it already. However, I've also taken Greek already, and while you can use it without having studied it yourself, you would get more out of it if you were able to read it critically with knowledge of Greek in hand.
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I'm going to one tomorrow Monday to have a look. I hope they have interesting ones, especially NIDNTT:
elnwood said:Is there a seminary or divinity school library near you? I've noticed that you're asking a lot of questions about books you should buy, but the best way to do it is to look at it use it in print and see if you find it useful.
I'm going to study Gk. I'm studying on my own right now. First classical Gk in a secular uni, then 1¼ years of Theology, then Biblical Gk:elnwood said:, I've also taken Greek already, and while you can use it without having studied it yourself, you would get more out of it if you were able to read it critically with knowledge of Greek in hand.
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The train-ticket to go to the best libraries was too expensive, $9½. (They would have had all three prospective sets: NIDNTT, NIDB, ISBE.) There's nothing else I would need to do over there. First I thought the ticket was ⅓ of that. There is another - but You can't go in there without being a student (the whole house is locked) and the next time they have an open-doors day isn't until March 15:
elnwood said:Is there a seminary or divinity school library near you? I've noticed that you're asking a lot of questions about books you should buy, but the best way to do it is to look at it use it in print and see if you find it useful.
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After finishing an MDiv at Liberty, and recently an MA in New Testament studies at Regent University, I'll say that my personal favorite was NIDNTT over the Theological Interpretation of the Bible, mainly because the entries are also indexed by the Greek words behind the main headings so that you can directly relate the definition into whatever Scriptures use that terminology (mostly).
For instance, on the entry for "resurrection" both dictionaries have a background study of the concept, but only NIDNTT also indexes the Greek words ἀνάστασις and ἐγείρω under the term so that you can turn to those sections of the NT that use those terms and also begin to study the literary context in which those authors utilized those terms. That gives you a more well-rounded study of not only definitions, but of uses and various other terms that our NT authors collocate alongside that term which you can also look up.
Don't get me wrong, either resource is great, both have great contributing scholars, and I have used both, but in terms of digging deeper into the terms, concepts, and literary function of both as they are used from our NT authors, you might find NIDNTT a bit more helpful.
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Thanks, JR Woods, for the opinion. However I'm skipping NIDNTT, it's too conservative and uses transliterated Gk. It also seems slightly too difficult. There is an interesting thread that I have started: Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament (3 vols.)? I'm skipping EDT as well, the quote below is from: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/66283.aspx?PageIndex=2
Unix said:This a bit cheaper resource has references to NIDNTT: Evangelical Dictionary of Theology (EDT), 2nd ed.. Anyone who thinks it would be good to complement with it?
The ticket is valid only two hours, if I would have wanted more time on me to read I would have needed to pay twice that price:Unix said:The train-ticket to go to the best libraries was too expensive, $9½. (They would have had all three prospective sets: NIDNTT, NIDB, ISBE.) There's nothing else I would need to do over there. First I thought the ticket was ⅓ of that.
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